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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited August 2017
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    that's a great point!
    how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka. 

    I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in". 
    I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok.  I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
    fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
    Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?

    I was wondering where the police presence was.
    It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one. 

    I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists?  Those guys were in body armor and camo.

    Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings.  I would think the police deserve credit for that.
    I saw a lot of pictures of armed people on both sides...
    Oh my god.

    Come on man. You're really coming across as an apologist. Even if it was true... one side is armed to perpetuate hate, while one side would have been armed to stop hatred (just like in WWII when 'real' patriots took up arms against nazis).

    These boobs are confused.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,493
    Not sure if this belongs here or the Idiot Thread.....

    Trump: I'm 'seriously considering' pardoning Joe Arpaio
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    There he just called out all those hate groups.  Is he still a racist?
    Yep, just named the KKK, Neo Nazis, White Supremacist specifically...Way better speech than Obama's dodging when BLM was setting Baltimore on fire...not that I'm a "trumpito" or anything.
    How do you know blm was setting fires?
    Um...Where were you last year???
    Were the people setting fires part of organized blm? 
    Power was there to check their BLM ID cards.
    They burn those too, evidently BLM and Antifa's go to is to burn up everything in sight.
    You're right, totally the same as Nazis and ISIS.
    Those are your words bub.
    Not this bub's words.

    "I'm not sure who disagrees with this.  Let's name some groups known for intimidation through violence:
    KKK
    Antifa
    Nazis
    BLM
    ISIS
    etc...
    They should all be named as terrorist organizations."

    I never said they were the same, just all groups known for trying to get their points across by means of violence.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,734
    lol so because today he came out opposing the KKK & Nazis he's all of a sudden a good guy sorry but he's still a deplorable and my opinion of him and any racist bigoted folks hasn't changed at all as far as I'm concerned you support him I want nothing to do with you at all ! 
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Not sure if this belongs here or the Idiot Thread.....

    Trump: I'm 'seriously considering' pardoning Joe Arpaio
    Article II Section 2
    Pretty ballsy for Trump to discuss this yesterday with the Charlottesville chitstorm
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,740
    edited August 2017
    JC29856 said:
    Not sure if this belongs here or the Idiot Thread.....

    Trump: I'm 'seriously considering' pardoning Joe Arpaio
    Article II Section 2
    Pretty ballsy for Trump to discuss this yesterday with the Charlottesville chitstorm
    Ballsy is one word for it I suppose, lol. I'd say it is pretty assholey.
    He calls that racist fuck who has no respect for the the law or human rights a "great American patriot". This is definitely not surprising, and definitely reinforces what we already know about Trump and friends.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2017

    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    that's a great point!
    how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka. 

    I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in". 
    I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok.  I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
    fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
    Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?

    I was wondering where the police presence was.
    It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one. 

    I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists?  Those guys were in body armor and camo.

    Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings.  I would think the police deserve credit for that.
    I saw a lot of pictures of armed people on both sides...
    Oh my god.

    Come on man. You're really coming across as an apologist. Even if it was true... one side is armed to perpetuate hate, while one side would have been armed to stop hatred (just like in WWII when 'real' patriots took up arms against nazis).

    These boobs are confused.
    So you consider Antifa the "real patriots"?  I guess I understand where you are coming from now...All that the violent protesters from any front cause is an escalation in violence.  
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,734
    edited August 2017
    Tiki said:
    "on many sides, on many sides."
    You didn't see this as "any violence is bad"?
    Ok so I'll ask would it bother you if these groups decided to March in your town in the name of bigotry would you oppose them or just stand idle ... before you answer I'll tell you what I would do exactly what Heather did stand there and show my support for anti racism ....yes all violence is horrific! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • lol so because today he came out opposing the KKK & Nazis he's all of a sudden a good guy sorry but he's still a deplorable and my opinion of him and any racist bigoted folks hasn't changed at all as far as I'm concerned you support him I want nothing to do with you at all ! 

    cmon dude.  Come back to the middle at least.  The attitude of think like me or I don't want anything to do with you is divisive. A President calls out kkk and Nazis and you refuse to accept it?  
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,740
    lol so because today he came out opposing the KKK & Nazis he's all of a sudden a good guy sorry but he's still a deplorable and my opinion of him and any racist bigoted folks hasn't changed at all as far as I'm concerned you support him I want nothing to do with you at all ! 

    cmon dude.  Come back to the middle at least.  The attitude of think like me or I don't want anything to do with you is divisive. A President calls out kkk and Nazis and you refuse to accept it?  
    Why should anyone accept bullshit?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,734
    lol so because today he came out opposing the KKK & Nazis he's all of a sudden a good guy sorry but he's still a deplorable and my opinion of him and any racist bigoted folks hasn't changed at all as far as I'm concerned you support him I want nothing to do with you at all ! 

    cmon dude.  Come back to the middle at least.  The attitude of think like me or I don't want anything to do with you is divisive. A President calls out kkk and Nazis and you refuse to accept it?  
    Yep you can drink his coolaid for ever not me he has already shown me his true colors , it would take much more than a statement from him for me to change my opinion more like actions not words ! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Fascism is pretty lame.  Anti fascism is not lame.  It takes courage.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    There he just called out all those hate groups.  Is he still a racist?
    Yep, just named the KKK, Neo Nazis, White Supremacist specifically...Way better speech than Obama's dodging when BLM was setting Baltimore on fire...not that I'm a "trumpito" or anything.
    How do you know blm was setting fires?
    Um...Where were you last year???
    Were the people setting fires part of organized blm? 
    Power was there to check their BLM ID cards.
    They burn those too, evidently BLM and Antifa's go to is to burn up everything in sight.
    You're right, totally the same as Nazis and ISIS.
    Those are your words bub.
    Not this bub's words.

    "I'm not sure who disagrees with this.  Let's name some groups known for intimidation through violence:
    KKK
    Antifa
    Nazis
    BLM
    ISIS
    etc...
    They should all be named as terrorist organizations."

    I never said they were the same, just all groups known for trying to get their points across by means of violence.
    You've done nothing but equate the groups from the beginning of this topic.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,740
    Tiki said:
    Fascism is pretty lame.  Anti fascism is not lame.  It takes courage.
    +1. It is not hard to distinguish between the fight for good vs the fight for evil. I am surprised how difficult it is for some people to wrap their heads around... It makes me assume they must be a lot more okay with evil than I am.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Tiki said:
    "on many sides, on many sides."
    You didn't see this as "any violence is bad"?
    Ok so I'll ask would it bother you if these groups decided to March in your town in the name of bigotry would you oppose them or just stand idle ... before you answer I'll tell you what I would do exactly what Heather did stand there and show my support for anti racism ....yes all violence is horrific! 
    I doubt Heather understood the full gravity of the situation there, I don't think anyone did.

    What's beyond repulsive is when her death is used to advance ideology.


  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    and, if you're smart, a hockey helmet
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    There he just called out all those hate groups.  Is he still a racist?
    Yep, just named the KKK, Neo Nazis, White Supremacist specifically...Way better speech than Obama's dodging when BLM was setting Baltimore on fire...not that I'm a "trumpito" or anything.
    How do you know blm was setting fires?
    Um...Where were you last year???
    Were the people setting fires part of organized blm? 
    Power was there to check their BLM ID cards.
    They burn those too, evidently BLM and Antifa's go to is to burn up everything in sight.
    You're right, totally the same as Nazis and ISIS.
    Those are your words bub.
    Not this bub's words.

    "I'm not sure who disagrees with this.  Let's name some groups known for intimidation through violence:
    KKK
    Antifa
    Nazis
    BLM
    ISIS
    etc...
    They should all be named as terrorist organizations."

    I never said they were the same, just all groups known for trying to get their points across by means of violence.
    You've done nothing but equate the groups from the beginning of this topic.
    They do equate in many ways regarding intimidation tactics.  That doesn't mean the soft ballers are on the same playing fields as the major leaguers.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,734
    edited August 2017
    JC29856 said:
    Tiki said:
    "on many sides, on many sides."
    You didn't see this as "any violence is bad"?
    Ok so I'll ask would it bother you if these groups decided to March in your town in the name of bigotry would you oppose them or just stand idle ... before you answer I'll tell you what I would do exactly what Heather did stand there and show my support for anti racism ....yes all violence is horrific! 
    I doubt Heather understood the full gravity of the situation there, I don't think anyone did.

    What's beyond repulsive is when her death is used to advance ideology.


    That's your own opinion ! What politician has used her name to advance their political careers ? I stated that if such hate groups were to March in my town I'd oppose them by protesting ...
    Post edited by josevolution on
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  • PJPOWER said:

    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    that's a great point!
    how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka. 

    I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in". 
    I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok.  I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
    fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
    Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?

    I was wondering where the police presence was.
    It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one. 

    I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists?  Those guys were in body armor and camo.

    Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings.  I would think the police deserve credit for that.
    I saw a lot of pictures of armed people on both sides...
    Oh my god.

    Come on man. You're really coming across as an apologist. Even if it was true... one side is armed to perpetuate hate, while one side would have been armed to stop hatred (just like in WWII when 'real' patriots took up arms against nazis).

    These boobs are confused.
    So you consider Antifa the "real patriots"?  I guess I understand where you are coming from now...All that the violent protesters from any front cause is an escalation in violence.  
    When I made my comment, the 'real patriots' I spoke to were those that left the comfort of North America to fight in Europe against Nazis... not these chubby rednecks that have become Nazis calling themselves patriots in the process.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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