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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,609
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Tiki said:
    "on many sides, on many sides."
    You didn't see this as "any violence is bad"?
    It's a wink and a nod to white supremacists. 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,737
    It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,743
    Go Beavers said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Tiki said:
    "on many sides, on many sides."
    You didn't see this as "any violence is bad"?
    It's a wink and a nod to white supremacists. 
    100%.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,557
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Those aren't cops...
    http://imgur.com/JCY2Aru

    They aren't National Guard either.

    That is crazy.  It's even crazier that it is legal to do in your country.  That's messed up.
    It is crazy when you see it and no one gets hurt when they do it.  That amazes me.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,743
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mfc2006 said:
    Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.


    You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little?  I think it was a very great thing doing that.  Calling out those hate groups.
    No, doesn't change my perception of him at all. If anything, it's worse (if that is even possible). He showed his usual true self with his first statement. The only reason he made the second one was because he realized that his real statement caused a lot more backlash than his dimwitted brain could conceive at the time. it was damage control, pure and simple. Trump is WAAAAAAY beyond the point of redemption at this point.

    But you guys wanted/needed him to call out the despicable evil and he did.  How is that not redemption?
    Everyone has already answered this question.

    I'm just asking you specifically. The speech today was it bullshit or not?
    I also already answered.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    PJ_Soul said:
    Go Beavers said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Tiki said:
    "on many sides, on many sides."
    You didn't see this as "any violence is bad"?
    It's a wink and a nod to white supremacists. 
    100%.

    And people think that 3d chess is false.
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    PJ_Soul said:
    Go Beavers said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Tiki said:
    "on many sides, on many sides."
    You didn't see this as "any violence is bad"?
    It's a wink and a nod to white supremacists. 
    100%.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited August 2017
    josevolution said:
    It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...

    How about having the family of the citizen time to grieve before the political shitstorm ensued her story.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,644
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    that's a great point!
    how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka. 

    I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in". 
    I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok.  I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
    fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
    Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?

    I was wondering where the police presence was.
    about 10 minutes ago watching CNN. I didn't honestly see any instigation from either side, all they showed was brawling that had already started. white supremacists punching women. how nice. 

    Brooke interviewed the former police chief of Charlottesville, and he said, while he is not in the know, so everything he says is pure speculation, he was confused as to why the protesters and anti-protesters weren't separated to begin with, and how a car was allowed on the premises at ALL, knowing how much pedestrian traffic there would be. 
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,969
    edited August 2017
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    josevolution said:
    It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...

    How about having the family of the citizen time to grieve before the political shitstorm ensued her story.
    You can help her family at this link. ADDED: Oops, the campaign was closed because they had reached their goal. Sorry. 
    https://www.gofundme.com/our-sisters-keeper-heatherheyer


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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,557
    josevolution said:
    It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
    Just throwing this out there.  When an incident happened here when Obama was president people crucified him for not calling it "radical Islam" when a Muslim carried out an act.  

    Where in Europe when an incident happened they labeled it a "radical Islam attack"

    Not that this was a Muslim/Islam matter but I can see it the same way as Trump not calling it out for what it was right away.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,644
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    josevolution said:
    It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...

    How about having the family of the citizen time to grieve before the political shitstorm ensued her story.
    oh puhleeze. like Trump gives a shit about the family. he only feigns interest in the family when a brown person kills a white person. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,743
    Kat said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    josevolution said:
    It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...

    How about having the family of the citizen time to grieve before the political shitstorm ensued her story.
    You can help her family at this link.
    https://www.gofundme.com/our-sisters-keeper-heatherheyer


    That campaign has been closed because they already got more than enough donations. :)
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,969
    PJ_Soul said:
    Kat said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    josevolution said:
    It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...

    How about having the family of the citizen time to grieve before the political shitstorm ensued her story.
    You can help her family at this link.
    https://www.gofundme.com/our-sisters-keeper-heatherheyer


    That campaign has been closed because they already got more than enough donations. :)
    Thank you. :) I just caught that and was going to edit my post. 
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    josevolution said:
    It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...

    How about having the family of the citizen time to grieve before the political shitstorm ensued her story.
    oh puhleeze. like Trump gives a shit about the family. he only feigns interest in the family when a brown person kills a white person. 

    Not sure what to say to that.  You think one way and I another.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,609
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
    Just throwing this out there.  When an incident happened here when Obama was president people crucified him for not calling it "radical Islam" when a Muslim carried out an act.  

    Where in Europe when an incident happened they labeled it a "radical Islam attack"

    Not that this was a Muslim/Islam matter but I can see it the same way as Trump not calling it out for what it was right away.
    a lot of white supremacists claim to be Christian. Maybe he should've said it was a radical Christian terrorist attack?
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,557
    Go Beavers said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
    Just throwing this out there.  When an incident happened here when Obama was president people crucified him for not calling it "radical Islam" when a Muslim carried out an act.  

    Where in Europe when an incident happened they labeled it a "radical Islam attack"

    Not that this was a Muslim/Islam matter but I can see it the same way as Trump not calling it out for what it was right away.
    a lot of white supremacists claim to be Christian. Maybe he should've said it was a radical Christian terrorist attack?
    You could spin it that way but it's not what I was getting at.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    Go Beavers said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Go Beavers said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    There he just called out all those hate groups.  Is he still a racist?
    Yep, just named the KKK, Neo Nazis, White Supremacist specifically...Way better speech than Obama's dodging when BLM was setting Baltimore on fire...not that I'm a "trumpito" or anything.
    How do you know blm was setting fires?
    Um...Where were you last year???
    Were the people setting fires part of organized blm? 
    Power was there to check their BLM ID cards.
    They burn those too, evidently BLM and Antifa's go to is to burn up everything in sight.
    You're right, totally the same as Nazis and ISIS.
    Those are your words bub.
    Not this bub's words.

    "I'm not sure who disagrees with this.  Let's name some groups known for intimidation through violence:
    KKK
    Antifa
    Nazis
    BLM
    ISIS
    etc...
    They should all be named as terrorist organizations."

  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,609
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Go Beavers said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
    Just throwing this out there.  When an incident happened here when Obama was president people crucified him for not calling it "radical Islam" when a Muslim carried out an act.  

    Where in Europe when an incident happened they labeled it a "radical Islam attack"

    Not that this was a Muslim/Islam matter but I can see it the same way as Trump not calling it out for what it was right away.
    a lot of white supremacists claim to be Christian. Maybe he should've said it was a radical Christian terrorist attack?
    You could spin it that way but it's not what I was getting at.
    I was pointing out another false equivalency in here.  
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