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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Sessions reminds me of Milburn Drysdale from the Beverly Hillbillies, always trying to do the right thing by the boss Trump (Clampetts). In the end he'll regret ever having been involved.

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  • ledvedderman
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    So when I read that twitter rant from this morning, I can't help but read that the President confirms that he really is contemplating pardons and that these unnamed sources from the Post aren't wrong. The second thing, the leaks he mentions of wrongdoings only confirm the info in them are true. 
    I would absolutely hate to represent him as an attorney. He literally builds the case against him. 
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  • mrussel1
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    ledvedderman said:
    So when I read that twitter rant from this morning, I can't help but read that the President confirms that he really is contemplating pardons and that these unnamed sources from the Post aren't wrong. The second thing, the leaks he mentions of wrongdoings only confirm the info in them are true. 
    I would absolutely hate to represent him as an attorney. He literally builds the case against him. 
    Three things on pardons:
    1. Doesn't there have to be a conviction in order to grant a pardon, by definition?
    2. If he pardons his children, Manafort, etc., they can no longer plead the 5th since they can no longer self-incriminate.  They will be compelled to answer in court, opening themselves up to charges of perjury if they say something that conflicts with FBI evidence.
    3. If either 1 or 2 takes place, they don't protect him from impeachment articles.  

    So it's a dangerous road to take, even without considering the political fallout.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Why would you give a rambling incoherent interview to a fake news outlet?
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  • rgambs
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    ledvedderman said:
    So when I read that twitter rant from this morning, I can't help but read that the President confirms that he really is contemplating pardons and that these unnamed sources from the Post aren't wrong. The second thing, the leaks he mentions of wrongdoings only confirm the info in them are true. 
    I would absolutely hate to represent him as an attorney. He literally builds the case against him. 
    I notice that too, by senselessly reacting against the leaks he essentially confirms them.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    rgambs said:
    ledvedderman said:
    So when I read that twitter rant from this morning, I can't help but read that the President confirms that he really is contemplating pardons and that these unnamed sources from the Post aren't wrong. The second thing, the leaks he mentions of wrongdoings only confirm the info in them are true. 
    I would absolutely hate to represent him as an attorney. He literally builds the case against him. 
    I notice that too, by senselessly reacting against the leaks he essentially confirms them.
    By definition, a leak is true.  
  • mfc2006
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Why would you give a rambling incoherent interview to a fake news outlet?
    Because he has the intelligence of a house fly.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    I'm 250th, I'm 250th, I'm 250th!

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Tired of winning yet?

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  • ledvedderman
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    mrussel1 said:
    ledvedderman said:
    So when I read that twitter rant from this morning, I can't help but read that the President confirms that he really is contemplating pardons and that these unnamed sources from the Post aren't wrong. The second thing, the leaks he mentions of wrongdoings only confirm the info in them are true. 
    I would absolutely hate to represent him as an attorney. He literally builds the case against him. 
    Three things on pardons:
    1. Doesn't there have to be a conviction in order to grant a pardon, by definition?
    2. If he pardons his children, Manafort, etc., they can no longer plead the 5th since they can no longer self-incriminate.  They will be compelled to answer in court, opening themselves up to charges of perjury if they say something that conflicts with FBI evidence.
    3. If either 1 or 2 takes place, they don't protect him from impeachment articles.  

    So it's a dangerous road to take, even without considering the political fallout.  
    I'm not sure if you have to be found guilty first. When Ford pardoned Nixon, it was only a month after he left office. I think it kept him from any future prosecution. It's interesting and will be hammered out by people much smarter than me. 
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Rest assured President Trump is exploring all angles and leaving no stone unturned to find a way to be legally authorized to pardon himself or his family members if the time comes.  He is being upfront w/ his this.  The people hammering this out have just been dealt a thud themselves by the President.  
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    A blast from the past about the hands since some are still stuck on them.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    ledvedderman said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ledvedderman said:
    So when I read that twitter rant from this morning, I can't help but read that the President confirms that he really is contemplating pardons and that these unnamed sources from the Post aren't wrong. The second thing, the leaks he mentions of wrongdoings only confirm the info in them are true. 
    I would absolutely hate to represent him as an attorney. He literally builds the case against him. 
    Three things on pardons:
    1. Doesn't there have to be a conviction in order to grant a pardon, by definition?
    2. If he pardons his children, Manafort, etc., they can no longer plead the 5th since they can no longer self-incriminate.  They will be compelled to answer in court, opening themselves up to charges of perjury if they say something that conflicts with FBI evidence.
    3. If either 1 or 2 takes place, they don't protect him from impeachment articles.  

    So it's a dangerous road to take, even without considering the political fallout.  
    I'm not sure if you have to be found guilty first. When Ford pardoned Nixon, it was only a month after he left office. I think it kept him from any future prosecution. It's interesting and will be hammered out by people much smarter than me. 
    You're right about that, concerning Nixon.  Good call.
  • stuckinline
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    Trump plans to nominate non-scientist to head science at USDA


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/4ad133f0-5d4e-3061-a10c-6637bbcc889b/ss_trump-plans-to-nominate.html
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    stuckinline said:

    Trump plans to nominate non-scientist to head science at USDA


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/4ad133f0-5d4e-3061-a10c-6637bbcc889b/ss_trump-plans-to-nominate.html
    What more do you need than being a right wing radio talk show host?

    At some point all these nominees have to be illegal at some point, right?
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,578
    josevolution said:
    What normal person starts tweeting @3am let alone the president ! He needs to be drug tested 
    Another coke bender to kick off the weekend resulting in early Saturday twitter rants.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited July 2017
    DOOLP!!!


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    someone else made a comment about hate in a closed thread. I chuckled because for the last 9 months there are 5 threads with a barrage a daily hatred, extreme hate. Let's de-escalate the hate!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,364
    JC29856 said:
    DOOLP!!!


    https://youtu.be/X3zpuksJa-I

    someone else made a comment about hate in a closed thread. I chuckled because for the last 9 months there are 5 threads with a barrage a daily hatred, extreme hate. Let's de-escalate the hate!
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  • JC29856
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    de-escalate hate!
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JC29856 said:
    de-escalate hate!
    The rule of law is not hate.
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