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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    cincybearcat said:
    Tiki said:
    He's remarkably unfit on every level.  He may be suffering from dementia.  
    It's time to take grandpa's keys away.  
    A severe case of narcissism is not dementia.....but ya never know. ;)
    Listen to and then find a transcript and read what he says.  He's insane.
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    my favorite one is how Mueller had a disagreement about fees with a trump golf course and ended his membership years ago, therefore he has a conflict of interest
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,364
    rgambs said:
    JC29856 said:
    has a full list of Mueller investigators been released?
    some claim that Clinton Foundation attorneys are part of Mueller team. other claims are that some have made substantial donations to the "Clintons".
    If accurate, it creates a snowstorm of conflict of interest claims.
    can't get any uglier... a nation divided.
    Hahaha right on cue with the Russian propaganda!

    I want the full list, I want to see their emails.  I want to know what color handkerchiefs they use and what kind of pizza and pasta they eat.
    It's the 3D way. 
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  • pjhawks
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    MayDay10 said:
    my favorite one is how Mueller had a disagreement about fees with a trump golf course and ended his membership years ago, therefore he has a conflict of interest
    and the hispanic judge had a conflict of interest because of Trump's border wall idea. they really do reach for these conflicts of interest do't they? well except when it comes to their businesses.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    wow, all the words being put in my mouth, double threaded.
    simply asked a question. 

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/05/17/7-things-know-robert-mueller-new-special-counsel-russia-investigation/101811990/
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    Tiki said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Tiki said:
    He's remarkably unfit on every level.  He may be suffering from dementia.  
    It's time to take grandpa's keys away.  
    A severe case of narcissism is not dementia.....but ya never know. ;)
    Listen to and then find a transcript and read what he says.  He's insane.
    I agree that he may have early signs of dimentia and it is something I said during the campaign.  It seems that the office may have hastened things along a bit.  Some of the behavior and interviews are odd and meandering.  His language and communication has sharply declined.  You see video of him in various settings sometimes and it doesnt seem like he is all there at times.  

    his diet probably doesnt help keep him sharp either



  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    JC29856 said:
    wow, all the words being put in my mouth, double threaded.
    simply asked a question. 

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/05/17/7-things-know-robert-mueller-new-special-counsel-russia-investigation/101811990/

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    MayDay10 said:
    my favorite one is how Mueller had a disagreement about fees with a trump golf course and ended his membership years ago, therefore he has a conflict of interest
    Hadn't heard that one.  Here are a couple of interesting fact:
    1. There are very specific situations which would allow for the termination of Mueller.  They are generally around misconduct or dereliction of duty.  I don't believe membership fees to a country club is on the list, but I can't be sure.
    2. Trump can't fire Mueller.  Period.  He can only be terminated by his boss in the DOJ.  That's Rosenstein.  Trump can try to strong arm Rosensteing, but he already said he would resign.  After that it goes to someone lower than Rosenstein.  People quitting the DOJ for refusing to terminate Mueller would be one helluva fire storm.  In other words... It's definitely going to happen!!
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    JC29856 said:
    has a full list of Mueller investigators been released?
    some claim that Clinton Foundation attorneys are part of Mueller team. other claims are that some have made substantial donations to the "Clintons".
    If accurate, it creates a snowstorm of conflict of interest claims.
    can't get any uglier... a nation divided.


    Pushing Don's talking points, eh? Shocking.


    You know Mueller is a registered republican and respected by republicans and democrats alike, right? But, sure, go ahead and muddy this up so Trump's base doesn't believe anything he comes up with...and you wonder why we are so divided.....ugh

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  • The Juggler
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    Gern Blansten said:
    So now tRump's attorneys are starting to jump ship due to tRump directly them to start going after Mueller.  Conway was on TV this morning saying the investigation has stalled and that is what led Mueller to go into tRump's businesses.  

    It's really fucking amazing what is happening.

    Stalled....haha.....this whole thing leads directly to his business because of he has done plenty of business with......wait for it....wait for it....RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited July 2017
    #1 - JC falls for it every single time... it's fucking hilarious... pepperoni or mushroom?

    #2 - i have no idea why some of you guys debate with a certain unnamed friendly but clueless trump fanboy troll? It's not worth the keystrokes lol
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Spicer is out. 
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    my favorite one is how Mueller had a disagreement about fees with a trump golf course and ended his membership years ago, therefore he has a conflict of interest
    Hadn't heard that one.  Here are a couple of interesting fact:
    1. There are very specific situations which would allow for the termination of Mueller.  They are generally around misconduct or dereliction of duty.  I don't believe membership fees to a country club is on the list, but I can't be sure.
    2. Trump can't fire Mueller.  Period.  He can only be terminated by his boss in the DOJ.  That's Rosenstein.  Trump can try to strong arm Rosensteing, but he already said he would resign.  After that it goes to someone lower than Rosenstein.  People quitting the DOJ for refusing to terminate Mueller would be one helluva fire storm.  In other words... It's definitely going to happen!!
    you sure trump can't fire Mueller?
    thanks to his predecessors as executive he can pretty much do anything.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    ledvedderman said:
    Spicer is out. 
    I am very surprised he lasted this long.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    JC29856 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    my favorite one is how Mueller had a disagreement about fees with a trump golf course and ended his membership years ago, therefore he has a conflict of interest
    Hadn't heard that one.  Here are a couple of interesting fact:
    1. There are very specific situations which would allow for the termination of Mueller.  They are generally around misconduct or dereliction of duty.  I don't believe membership fees to a country club is on the list, but I can't be sure.
    2. Trump can't fire Mueller.  Period.  He can only be terminated by his boss in the DOJ.  That's Rosenstein.  Trump can try to strong arm Rosensteing, but he already said he would resign.  After that it goes to someone lower than Rosenstein.  People quitting the DOJ for refusing to terminate Mueller would be one helluva fire storm.  In other words... It's definitely going to happen!!
    you sure trump can't fire Mueller?
    thanks to his predecessors as executive he can pretty much do anything.
    The only way the President can get rid of Mueller is by appointing a new AG not recused from Russia investigation who would then take over from Rosenstein on the investigation. If that happens, both parties have said that Mueller would be hired to oversee an investigation from Congress. 
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  • Gern Blansten
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    Lots of resignations....can Priebus be far behind?

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  • JC29856
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    edited July 2017
    ledvedderman said:
    JC29856 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    my favorite one is how Mueller had a disagreement about fees with a trump golf course and ended his membership years ago, therefore he has a conflict of interest
    Hadn't heard that one.  Here are a couple of interesting fact:
    1. There are very specific situations which would allow for the termination of Mueller.  They are generally around misconduct or dereliction of duty.  I don't believe membership fees to a country club is on the list, but I can't be sure.
    2. Trump can't fire Mueller.  Period.  He can only be terminated by his boss in the DOJ.  That's Rosenstein.  Trump can try to strong arm Rosensteing, but he already said he would resign.  After that it goes to someone lower than Rosenstein.  People quitting the DOJ for refusing to terminate Mueller would be one helluva fire storm.  In other words... It's definitely going to happen!!
    you sure trump can't fire Mueller?
    thanks to his predecessors as executive he can pretty much do anything.
    The only way the President can get rid of Mueller is by appointing a new AG not recused from Russia investigation who would then take over from Rosenstein on the investigation. If that happens, both parties have said that Mueller would be hired to oversee an investigation from Congress. 
    interesting...trump fires sessions and rosenstein. that is some real shit fanning there!

    I just perused a politico piece on the topic.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    JC29856 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    my favorite one is how Mueller had a disagreement about fees with a trump golf course and ended his membership years ago, therefore he has a conflict of interest
    Hadn't heard that one.  Here are a couple of interesting fact:
    1. There are very specific situations which would allow for the termination of Mueller.  They are generally around misconduct or dereliction of duty.  I don't believe membership fees to a country club is on the list, but I can't be sure.
    2. Trump can't fire Mueller.  Period.  He can only be terminated by his boss in the DOJ.  That's Rosenstein.  Trump can try to strong arm Rosensteing, but he already said he would resign.  After that it goes to someone lower than Rosenstein.  People quitting the DOJ for refusing to terminate Mueller would be one helluva fire storm.  In other words... It's definitely going to happen!!
    you sure trump can't fire Mueller?
    thanks to his predecessors as executive he can pretty much do anything.
    1. He could order his dismissal through the DOJ as I mentioned above, but I would expect Rosenstein and co. to balk.  I think the more likely scenario is he forces Sessions out, brings in someone not connected, and then pushes dismissal through the new AG.
    2. He could fire him, but first he would have to repeal the special counsel regulations that are in place today.  Certainly that would be politically damaging.
    3. The Senate would probably bring Mueller in immediately.  However, here's the rub and why that wouldn't be good for the country.  Under either a House or Senate investigation, criminal charges could not be levied against Trump or his minions.  Only the DOJ has criminal prosecutor powers.  What could happen is that the House could raise impeachment charges against Trump and then of course the Senate owns the trial.
    If it looks bad enough, criminally, for Trump's family (not him personally), he might choose to go that route and take his chances with impeachment.  That would certainly be interesting.  
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    Hes a good businessman though.  Deals.  Drain the swamp.  Lets put him in charge of our childrens' futures

    Dummies
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mrussel1 said:
    JC29856 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    my favorite one is how Mueller had a disagreement about fees with a trump golf course and ended his membership years ago, therefore he has a conflict of interest
    Hadn't heard that one.  Here are a couple of interesting fact:
    1. There are very specific situations which would allow for the termination of Mueller.  They are generally around misconduct or dereliction of duty.  I don't believe membership fees to a country club is on the list, but I can't be sure.
    2. Trump can't fire Mueller.  Period.  He can only be terminated by his boss in the DOJ.  That's Rosenstein.  Trump can try to strong arm Rosensteing, but he already said he would resign.  After that it goes to someone lower than Rosenstein.  People quitting the DOJ for refusing to terminate Mueller would be one helluva fire storm.  In other words... It's definitely going to happen!!
    you sure trump can't fire Mueller?
    thanks to his predecessors as executive he can pretty much do anything.
    1. He could order his dismissal through the DOJ as I mentioned above, but I would expect Rosenstein and co. to balk.  I think the more likely scenario is he forces Sessions out, brings in someone not connected, and then pushes dismissal through the new AG.
    2. He could fire him, but first he would have to repeal the special counsel regulations that are in place today.  Certainly that would be politically damaging.
    3. The Senate would probably bring Mueller in immediately.  However, here's the rub and why that wouldn't be good for the country.  Under either a House or Senate investigation, criminal charges could not be levied against Trump or his minions.  Only the DOJ has criminal prosecutor powers.  What could happen is that the House could raise impeachment charges against Trump and then of course the Senate owns the trial.
    If it looks bad enough, criminally, for Trump's family (not him personally), he might choose to go that route and take his chances with impeachment.  That would certainly be interesting.  
    I think he should shut his mouth, let the investigation play out and let his attorneys discredit it. if he has nothing to hide then no worries. if he or his family has done something then let them hang.
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