Poll--The Weakest Link: Backspacer Round 1
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Johnny GuitarSo many to choose from. I can't stand Unthought Known and I have no idea why it's so popular. Is "build up" all people look for in a song? It's predictable and boring. Even the title is obnoxious (and yes, I know the origin of the title and that doesn't make it interesting). The "gems and rhinestones" lyric is the least of my problems with it. If you actually listen, there's not even a song there. It's like half an idea with terrible lyrics overall ("dream the dreams of other men"...etc, has never made sense to me).
I know it's a dick move to bash a song, but it's only because it's so far beneath even their average songs. I miss the days when Evacuation was considered the worst thing they'd written.0 -
We had some cheesy ass lyrics win self titled. Go figure.oftenreading said:
Some other songs have the odd cheesy line, but The Fixer is pure cheese throughout.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:The Fixer should not be going out first round.
People... c'mon, man. On any other album sure, but geez. Here? Worst song on this album? That's your vote?
Dear gawd.
When somethings broke, I wanna put a bit of fixin on it
When somethings bored, I wanna put a little exciting on it
If somethings low, I wanna put a little high on it...
I rest my case
Let me run into the rain......
at least the fixer is fun live.
And yes we all got tired of just breathe but you must admit it really is a good song. If it was on one of the first three albums it would be on everyone s top ten list.Post edited by mcgruff10 onI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
The FixerThe Fixer sounds like it was written to appeal to 13 year olds.0
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Johnny Guitar
Right on, love to see the positivity.F Me In The Brain said:
Well said. Why Backspacer has a special place forever in my heart. My hero was dying and I couldnt get my head around it. B/S came out as this was happening and just spoke to me -- The End (the most depressing song on the album and one of the most depressing songs from them, ever) in particular held an important place for me during those last days.ledvedderman said:I'm sorry to hear that, man. I'd be lying if I said I were in a better place. I swear I played the Cat Stevens song "Father and Son" for like 45 minutes earlier.Fucking music, man. Knows the words and emotions when I don't and can't.
I will take the blame
But just the same
This is not me
You see
Believe
I'm better than this
I get why others crap on Backspacer, but I love it. Always. Saved me from my own hardheartedness and showed me how to feel again. Made it OK to let any disappointment, anger, hurt, frustration, despair, and loneliness from the previous decade plus out from the corner I shoved it all into and to move on from the eventual loss.
It's my buddy's favorite PJ album. It came out right when he was at the height of his "listening to PJ exclusively" phase and resonated with him. He learned to play every song in about a month.
The End is an amazing guitar work, he always wants me to sing it for him and I always refuse because it's too beautiful to sing over.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
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Johnny GuitarListened to this entire album again on the way to work and still really enjoy it. It's a quick easy listen. I don't dislike any song on this album. Johnny Guitar is one of those songs where you can pretty much imagine the scene as he's singing the lyrics. Easy storyboard song. Force of Nature is another one I can easily picture the narrative to in my head as he sings it. Just Breathe and The End are really good songs and the only slow ones. They only suffer from being Eddie heavy on a Pearl Jam album and the over play of Just Breathe live in the encore slot. There also seems to be a trend that we collectively dislike any song that has mass appeal or became mainstream. Just look at the list of winners. A non-PJ fan would be like, WTF?
Anyway, as some have already said, I understand why people don't like this album, but I think it's pretty good and especially light (rockers and content) considering how heavy Pearl Jam S/T was.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Unthought KnownI don't get the hate for The End. I think it's an amazing song and the strings on it are wonderfully composed. The actual music of the song is quite complex for a singer songwriter like Ed. His guitar playing just keeps getting better and better. Some tricky and quick changes all over this song. Lyrically it's great. It kicked my ass last night. It was the first time I've listened to it since a pretty serious brain diagnosis for me a couple of weeks ago. It's perfect. I know a lot of people connect to Just Breathe more and that's fine, but I will say hands down all the way to the grave that The End is the better song all around Ed solo type song on this record.
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Speed Of Soundnot surprised it is so far 'ahead' in the poll since it always seems to have negative comments associated with it on here, but johnny guitar is one of the better songs on backspacer, imo.0
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The FixerCiao skip song!!!Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..0 -
It's the production and the way Ed sounds like he has a cold throughout the record for me. Not a fan of the strings on it, either. I enjoyed seeing it performed live though, it gave me an entirely new appreciation for the song.ledvedderman said:I don't get the hate for The End. I think it's an amazing song and the strings on it are wonderfully composed. The actual music of the song is quite complex for a singer songwriter like Ed. His guitar playing just keeps getting better and better. Some tricky and quick changes all over this song. Lyrically it's great. It kicked my ass last night. It was the first time I've listened to it since a pretty serious brain diagnosis for me a couple of weeks ago. It's perfect. I know a lot of people connect to Just Breathe more and that's fine, but I will say hands down all the way to the grave that The End is the better song all around Ed solo type song on this record."It's best to live in grace before you're forced to." EV- 10/09/20140 -
Unthought KnownReally? I remember during the solo shows leading up to Backspacer, the strings from The End played in the pre-show music. It was beautiful and maybe that's stuck in my head still.0
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Agreed. Never understood the hate for The Fixer, either.AndySlash said:not surprised it is so far 'ahead' in the poll since it always seems to have negative comments associated with it on here, but johnny guitar is one of the better songs on backspacer, imo.
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for me "the end" is just do damn depressing to enjoy.ledvedderman said:I don't get the hate for The End. I think it's an amazing song and the strings on it are wonderfully composed. The actual music of the song is quite complex for a singer songwriter like Ed. His guitar playing just keeps getting better and better. Some tricky and quick changes all over this song. Lyrically it's great. It kicked my ass last night. It was the first time I've listened to it since a pretty serious brain diagnosis for me a couple of weeks ago. It's perfect. I know a lot of people connect to Just Breathe more and that's fine, but I will say hands down all the way to the grave that The End is the better song all around Ed solo type song on this record.
On a side note, I hope you are getting better bud.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
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for me "the end" is just do damn depressing to enjoy.ledvedderman said:I don't get the hate for The End. I think it's an amazing song and the strings on it are wonderfully composed. The actual music of the song is quite complex for a singer songwriter like Ed. His guitar playing just keeps getting better and better. Some tricky and quick changes all over this song. Lyrically it's great. It kicked my ass last night. It was the first time I've listened to it since a pretty serious brain diagnosis for me a couple of weeks ago. It's perfect. I know a lot of people connect to Just Breathe more and that's fine, but I will say hands down all the way to the grave that The End is the better song all around Ed solo type song on this record.
On a side note, I hope you are getting better bud.
Same here. The album drifted toward darkness at the end and it kind of shocked me that they ended such an upbeat record with that song. Ed even joked about it before he played it. lol. Maybe live with strings, it's better. I haven't listened to a boot from that era in a while, though. I didn't really like how the shows were mixed during the '08-'10 era. Hope you feel better."It's best to live in grace before you're forced to." EV- 10/09/20140 -
The FixerI hate theIm in a well.everything was swellbut now its hellWell well,im in a well
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Johnny Guitar
C'mon now! He literally says well one time in the entire song. The only lyric I really cringe a little at is the "slide up next to me". It's a good depressing song, which is usually the type of Pearl Jam we like around here.Spiritual_Chaos said:I hate theIm in a well.everything was swellbut now its hellWell well,im in a well
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Speed Of SoundSo sad to hear people talk about some of these songs as awful, terrible, or that they always skip them. Pretty much any PJ is better than most other music out there. Johnny Guitar is not my favorite song by any means, but I will take that all day compared to a lot of stuff!
I know it's everyone's opinion and I am fine with what ever anyone else thinks...it just makes me sad:(1998: Noblesville, IN 08-172000: Noblesville, IN 08-182003: Noblesville, IN 06-222006: Cincinnati, OH 06-242010: Noblesville, IN 05-072016: Lexington, KY 04-26, Wrigley Field 2 08-222018: Wrigley Field 1 08-18, Wrigley Field 2 08-202022: St. Louis, MO 09-182024: Noblesville, IN 08-26, Wrigley Field 1 08-29, Wrigley Field 2 08-31
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The Fixer
Without a bit of exaggeration it would be quite boring. I think.BSully said:So sad to hear people talk about some of these songs as awful, terrible, or that they always skip them. Pretty much any PJ is better than most other music out there. Johnny Guitar is not my favorite song by any means, but I will take that all day compared to a lot of stuff!
I know it's everyone's opinion and I am fine with what ever anyone else thinks...it just makes me sad:("Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Ha ha..love the visual!! Seriously though, the first time I heard it I was really worried about Ed's health.Spiritual_Chaos said:I hate theIm in a well.everything was swellbut now its hellWell well,im in a well
"It's best to live in grace before you're forced to." EV- 10/09/20140 -
Johnny Guitar
I never know if I should listen to sad songs when i'm blue or happy songs. each can have the opposing effect, and I never know which one.ledvedderman said:I'm sorry to hear that, man. I'd be lying if I said I were in a better place. I swear I played the Cat Stevens song "Father and Son" for like 45 minutes earlier. Fucking music, man. Knows the words and emotions when I don't and can't.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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