Poll--The Weakest Link: Backspacer Round 1

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  • october22
    october22 Posts: 2,533
    Johnny Guitar
    So many to choose from. I can't stand Unthought Known and I have no idea why it's so popular. Is "build up" all people look for in a song? It's predictable and boring. Even the title is obnoxious (and yes, I know the origin of the title and that doesn't make it interesting). The "gems and rhinestones" lyric is the least of my problems with it. If you actually listen, there's not even a song there. It's like half an idea with terrible lyrics overall ("dream the dreams of other men"...etc, has never made sense to me).

    I know it's a dick move to bash a song, but it's only because it's so far beneath even their average songs. I miss the days when Evacuation was considered the worst thing they'd written. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,182
    edited May 2017
    The Fixer should not be going out first round.

    People... c'mon, man. On any other album sure, but geez. Here? Worst song on this album? That's your vote?

    Dear gawd.
    Some other songs have the odd cheesy line, but The Fixer is pure cheese throughout.
    When somethings broke, I wanna put a bit of fixin on it
    When somethings bored, I wanna put a little exciting on it
    If somethings low, I wanna put a little high on it...

    I rest my case
    We had some cheesy ass lyrics win self titled. Go figure. 
    Let me run into the rain......
    at least the fixer is fun live.
    And yes we all got tired of just breathe but you must admit it really is a good song. If it was on one of the first three albums it would be on everyone s top  ten list. 
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  • Sarava
    Sarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,063
    The Fixer
    The Fixer sounds like it was written to appeal to 13 year olds.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Johnny Guitar
    I'm sorry to hear that, man. I'd be lying if I said I were in a better place. I swear I played the Cat Stevens song "Father and Son" for like 45 minutes earlier.
     Fucking music, man. Knows the words and emotions when I don't and can't. 
    Well said.  Why Backspacer has a special place forever in my heart.  My hero was dying and I couldnt get my head around it.  B/S came out as this was happening and just spoke to me -- The End (the most depressing song on the album and one of the most depressing songs from them, ever) in particular held an important place for me during those last days. 

    I will take the blame
    But just the same
    This is not me
    You see
    Believe
    I'm better than this

    I get why others crap on Backspacer, but I love it.  Always.  Saved me from my own hardheartedness and showed me how to feel again.  Made it OK to let any disappointment, anger, hurt, frustration, despair, and loneliness from the previous decade plus out from the corner I shoved it all into and to move on from the eventual loss.



    Right on, love to see the positivity.
    It's my buddy's​ favorite PJ album.  It came out right when he was at the height of his "listening to PJ exclusively" phase and resonated with him.  He learned to play every song in about a month.
    The End is an amazing guitar work, he always wants me to sing it for him and I always refuse because it's too beautiful to sing over.
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  • KC138045
    KC138045 Columbus, OH Posts: 2,716
    The End
    Columbus-2000
    Columbus-2003
    Cincinnati-2006
    Columbus-2010
    Wrigley-2013
    Cincinnati-2014
    Lexington-2016
    Wrigley 1 & 2-2018
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,497
    Johnny Guitar
    Listened to this entire album again on the way to work and still really enjoy it. It's a quick easy listen. I don't dislike any song on this album. Johnny Guitar is one of those songs where you can pretty much imagine the scene as he's singing the lyrics. Easy storyboard song. Force of Nature is another one I can easily picture the narrative to in my head as he sings it. Just Breathe and The End are really good songs and the only slow ones. They only suffer from being Eddie heavy on a Pearl Jam album and the over play of Just Breathe live in the encore slot. There also seems to be a trend that we collectively dislike any song that has mass appeal or became mainstream. Just look at the list of winners. A non-PJ fan would be like, WTF?

    Anyway, as some have already said, I understand why people don't like this album, but I think it's pretty good and especially light (rockers and content) considering how heavy Pearl Jam S/T was.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Unthought Known
    I don't get the hate for The End. I think it's an amazing song and the strings on it are wonderfully composed. The actual music of the song is quite complex for a singer songwriter like Ed. His guitar playing just keeps getting better and better. Some tricky and quick changes all over this song. Lyrically it's great. It kicked my ass last night. It was the first time I've listened to it since a pretty serious brain diagnosis for me a couple of weeks ago. It's perfect. I know a lot of people connect to Just Breathe more and that's fine, but I will say hands down all the way to the grave that The End is the better song all around Ed solo type song on this record. 
  • AndySlash
    AndySlash Posts: 3,289
    Speed Of Sound
    not surprised it is so far 'ahead' in the poll since it always seems to have negative comments associated with it on here, but johnny guitar is one of the better songs on backspacer, imo.
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 20,182
    The Fixer
    Ciao skip song!!!
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  • erocshifty
    erocshifty Posts: 1,170
    I don't get the hate for The End. I think it's an amazing song and the strings on it are wonderfully composed. The actual music of the song is quite complex for a singer songwriter like Ed. His guitar playing just keeps getting better and better. Some tricky and quick changes all over this song. Lyrically it's great. It kicked my ass last night. It was the first time I've listened to it since a pretty serious brain diagnosis for me a couple of weeks ago. It's perfect. I know a lot of people connect to Just Breathe more and that's fine, but I will say hands down all the way to the grave that The End is the better song all around Ed solo type song on this record. 
    It's the production and the way Ed sounds like he has a cold throughout the record for me. Not a fan of the strings on it, either. I enjoyed seeing it performed live though, it gave me an entirely new appreciation for the song. 
    "It's best to live in grace before you're forced to." EV- 10/09/2014 
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Unthought Known
    Really? I remember during the solo shows leading up to Backspacer, the strings from The End played in the pre-show music. It was beautiful and maybe that's stuck in my head still. 
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    AndySlash said:
    not surprised it is so far 'ahead' in the poll since it always seems to have negative comments associated with it on here, but johnny guitar is one of the better songs on backspacer, imo.
    Agreed.  Never understood the hate for The Fixer, either.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,182
    I don't get the hate for The End. I think it's an amazing song and the strings on it are wonderfully composed. The actual music of the song is quite complex for a singer songwriter like Ed. His guitar playing just keeps getting better and better. Some tricky and quick changes all over this song. Lyrically it's great. It kicked my ass last night. It was the first time I've listened to it since a pretty serious brain diagnosis for me a couple of weeks ago. It's perfect. I know a lot of people connect to Just Breathe more and that's fine, but I will say hands down all the way to the grave that The End is the better song all around Ed solo type song on this record. 
    for me "the end" is just do damn depressing to enjoy.

    On a side note, I hope you are getting better bud.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • erocshifty
    erocshifty Posts: 1,170
    mcgruff10 said:
    I don't get the hate for The End. I think it's an amazing song and the strings on it are wonderfully composed. The actual music of the song is quite complex for a singer songwriter like Ed. His guitar playing just keeps getting better and better. Some tricky and quick changes all over this song. Lyrically it's great. It kicked my ass last night. It was the first time I've listened to it since a pretty serious brain diagnosis for me a couple of weeks ago. It's perfect. I know a lot of people connect to Just Breathe more and that's fine, but I will say hands down all the way to the grave that The End is the better song all around Ed solo type song on this record. 
    for me "the end" is just do damn depressing to enjoy.

    On a side note, I hope you are getting better bud.

    Same here. The album drifted toward darkness at the end and it kind of shocked me that they ended such an upbeat record with that song. Ed even joked about it before he played it. lol. Maybe live with strings, it's better. I haven't listened to a boot from that era in a while, though. I didn't really like how the shows were mixed during the '08-'10 era. Hope you feel better.
    "It's best to live in grace before you're forced to." EV- 10/09/2014 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,648
    The Fixer
    I hate the

    Im in a well. 
    everything was swell
    but now its hell
    Well well, 
    im in a well



    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,497
    Johnny Guitar
    I hate the

    Im in a well. 
    everything was swell
    but now its hell
    Well well, 
    im in a well



    C'mon now! He literally says well one time in the entire song. The only lyric I really cringe a little at is the "slide up next to me". It's a good depressing song, which is usually the type of Pearl Jam we like around here.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • BSully
    BSully Indiana Posts: 1,503
    Speed Of Sound
    So sad to hear people talk about some of these songs as awful, terrible, or that they always skip them. Pretty much any PJ is better than most other music out there. Johnny Guitar is not my favorite song by any means, but I will take that all day compared to a lot of stuff!

    I know it's everyone's opinion and I am fine with what ever anyone else thinks...it just makes me sad:(
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,648
    The Fixer
    BSully said:
    So sad to hear people talk about some of these songs as awful, terrible, or that they always skip them. Pretty much any PJ is better than most other music out there. Johnny Guitar is not my favorite song by any means, but I will take that all day compared to a lot of stuff!

    I know it's everyone's opinion and I am fine with what ever anyone else thinks...it just makes me sad:(
    Without a bit of exaggeration it would be quite boring. I think.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • erocshifty
    erocshifty Posts: 1,170
    edited May 2017
    I hate the

    Im in a well. 
    everything was swell
    but now its hell
    Well well, 
    im in a well



    Ha ha..love the visual!! Seriously though, the first time I heard it I was really worried about Ed's health. 
    "It's best to live in grace before you're forced to." EV- 10/09/2014 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,996
    edited May 2017
    Johnny Guitar
    I'm sorry to hear that, man. I'd be lying if I said I were in a better place. I swear I played the Cat Stevens song "Father and Son" for like 45 minutes earlier. Fucking music, man. Knows the words and emotions when I don't and can't. 
     I never know if I should listen to sad songs when i'm blue or happy songs. each can have the opposing effect, and I never know which one. 
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