Poll--The Weakest Link: Backspacer Round 1

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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Unthought Known
    JimmyV said:
    Backspacer remains my least favorite Pearl Jam release. Two Ed solo songs in Just Breathe and The End, plus Speed of Sound which was better as an Ed solo song than what we got on the record. Johnny Guitar is terrible. The Fixer is forgettable. Unthought Known is one of their most overrated songs, probably because there is so little else to love on this album. Force of Nature, Supersonic, Gonna See My Friends...none of these are songs I hope to see pop up in a setlist.

    On the plus side, Amongst The Waves is good and Got Some has grown on me over time. Also, the Backspacer tour shows I saw (Hartford and Boston, 2010) were both gems.
    Force of Nature is the secret best song on the album.
    Exactly! +1
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,128
    Johnny Guitar
    JimmyV said:
    Backspacer remains my least favorite Pearl Jam release. Two Ed solo songs in Just Breathe and The End, plus Speed of Sound which was better as an Ed solo song than what we got on the record. Johnny Guitar is terrible. The Fixer is forgettable. Unthought Known is one of their most overrated songs, probably because there is so little else to love on this album. Force of Nature, Supersonic, Gonna See My Friends...none of these are songs I hope to see pop up in a setlist.

    On the plus side, Amongst The Waves is good and Got Some has grown on me over time. Also, the Backspacer tour shows I saw (Hartford and Boston, 2010) were both gems.
    Force of Nature is the secret best song on the album.
    If so it is a VERY well kept secret.
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,309
    The End
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,128
    Johnny Guitar
    JG!
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,830
    Johnny Guitar
    JimmyV said:
    Backspacer remains my least favorite Pearl Jam release. Two Ed solo songs in Just Breathe and The End, plus Speed of Sound which was better as an Ed solo song than what we got on the record. Johnny Guitar is terrible. The Fixer is forgettable. Unthought Known is one of their most overrated songs, probably because there is so little else to love on this album. Force of Nature, Supersonic, Gonna See My Friends...none of these are songs I hope to see pop up in a setlist.

    On the plus side, Amongst The Waves is good and Got Some has grown on me over time. Also, the Backspacer tour shows I saw (Hartford and Boston, 2010) were both gems.
    Force of Nature is the secret best song on the album.
    Force of Nature is my favorite Pearl Jam song of the last two albums 
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    The Fixer
    JimmyV said:
    JimmyV said:
    Backspacer remains my least favorite Pearl Jam release. Two Ed solo songs in Just Breathe and The End, plus Speed of Sound which was better as an Ed solo song than what we got on the record. Johnny Guitar is terrible. The Fixer is forgettable. Unthought Known is one of their most overrated songs, probably because there is so little else to love on this album. Force of Nature, Supersonic, Gonna See My Friends...none of these are songs I hope to see pop up in a setlist.

    On the plus side, Amongst The Waves is good and Got Some has grown on me over time. Also, the Backspacer tour shows I saw (Hartford and Boston, 2010) were both gems.
    Force of Nature is the secret best song on the album.
    If so it is a VERY well kept secret.
    You need to know the handshake 
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  • Speed Of Sound
    This album is an easy one to just pop in and listen.
    Once SOS or Supersonic comes on I just treat and listen to it as elevator music.  I know it's on and eventually it will be off. Don't really care if I hear it or not.

  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,136
    The Fixer
    Force of Nature its an amazing story..
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  • PapPap Posts: 28,803
    The End
    Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,845
    Supersonic
    Maybe we should have a rule for this album that you cannot make any negative comments about songs.  These threads won't be pretty.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,403
    Maybe we should have a rule for this album that you cannot make any negative comments about songs.  These threads won't be pretty.
    Nah.  Those comments are great. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,845
    edited May 2017
    Supersonic
    mcgruff10 said:
    Maybe we should have a rule for this album that you cannot make any negative comments about songs.  These threads won't be pretty.
    Nah.  Those comments are great. 

    Alright, here's my best:

    B-Side Material: Gonna See My Friend, Supersonic, Force of Nature (Riot Act B-Side quality and not the amazing B-Sides from the early 90's)

    I never want to hear ever again:  Unthought Known, Just Breathe

    Average:  The Fixer (live is great), Johnny Guitar, Speed of Sound

    Great Songs:  The End, Amongst the Waves, Got Some

  • rummyrummy Posts: 4,436
    Johnny Guitar
    Maybe we should have a rule for this album that you cannot make any negative comments about songs.  These threads won't be pretty.
    Then there won't be any posts!
  • Speed Of Sound
    rummy said:
    Maybe we should have a rule for this album that you cannot make any negative comments about songs.  These threads won't be pretty.
    Then there won't be any posts!

    I think it was sarcasm. 
  • rummyrummy Posts: 4,436
    Johnny Guitar
    rummy said:
    Maybe we should have a rule for this album that you cannot make any negative comments about songs.  These threads won't be pretty.
    Then there won't be any posts!

    I think it was sarcasm. 
    Obviously.
  • buck502000buck502000 Posts: 8,951
    Speed Of Sound
    True 
  • buck502000buck502000 Posts: 8,951
    Speed Of Sound
    rgambs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I still can't believe that inside job won. Terrible song live.  Oh well. 
    Unthought known for the win!
    Not so fast my friend!

    "gems and RHINESTONES!!!"

    Most cringeworthy lyric in the catalog. 
    I disagree.  Ed has a serious love affair with the Moon and stars, and as someone who shares that love affair, it isn't cringe worthy or corny, it's genuine and beautiful.  
    I can see how city folk would feel that way, but get out under a true night sky and listen to that song and you will appreciate that it isn't just something he said, it's something he felt and that you can feel too.
    I really enjoyed the Global Citizen version with the story....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMR5mOELe1s

  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,845
    Supersonic
    rummy said:
    Maybe we should have a rule for this album that you cannot make any negative comments about songs.  These threads won't be pretty.
    Then there won't be any posts!
    Very true!
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,430
    I actually really like Backspacer, except for The End. That's one of less than a handful of songs in the entire catalog I don't like. The rest of the album is freakin great, imo, and gets shit on way too much around here.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Unthought Known
    mcgruff10 said:
    Maybe we should have a rule for this album that you cannot make any negative comments about songs.  These threads won't be pretty.
    Nah.  Those comments are great. 

    Alright, here's my best:

    B-Side Material: Gonna See My Friend, Supersonic, Force of Nature (Riot Act B-Side quality and not the amazing B-Sides from the early 90's)

    I never want to hear ever again:  Unthought Known, Just Breathe

    Average:  The Fixer (live is great), Johnny Guitar, Speed of Sound

    Great Songs:  The End, Amongst the Waves, Got Some

    I'm with you 100% except for Force of Nature. 
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,845
    edited May 2017
    Supersonic
    mcgruff10 said:
    Maybe we should have a rule for this album that you cannot make any negative comments about songs.  These threads won't be pretty.
    Nah.  Those comments are great. 

    Alright, here's my best:

    B-Side Material: Gonna See My Friend, Supersonic, Force of Nature (Riot Act B-Side quality and not the amazing B-Sides from the early 90's)

    I never want to hear ever again:  Unthought Known, Just Breathe

    Average:  The Fixer (live is great), Johnny Guitar, Speed of Sound

    Great Songs:  The End, Amongst the Waves, Got Some

    I'm with you 100% except for Force of Nature. 
    I understand dislike for The Fixer but it is a great song to get the crowd going at shows as it is upbeat, has a strong singalong chorus, and is short.

    songs like just Breathe and Sirens are slow slogs that take forever live.
    Post edited by bootlegger10 on
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Unthought Known
    I look at The Fixer for what it is, a poppy lead single. You're right, it gets the crowd going. I really like the song. It's easily one of my favorites on the record. I think fans, me included, get spoiled by the history of this band and taking the high road in regards to leveling off the success they were headed towards. But these guys are all musicians and want their songs to be liked, even if it appears uncool or whatever. So I give them a pass on songs. At the end of the day it's just a fun pop song to get people moving...and it accomplishes that. And as a lead single, it certainly represents the album as a whole. 
  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Just Breathe
    Amongst and Force of Nature are standouts on a mediocre album. 
    Tho I will take Backspacer any day of the week over the follow up. Just awful.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • shetellsherselfshetellsherself Posts: 8,818
    Amongst The Waves
    You are all depressing. I really enjoy backspacer. It makes me feel happy. Except the end. That one makes me feel sad. Don't know how to vote. While I like all the songs (as stated) none of them grab me as immediate favorites. I'll listen tomorrow again and decide. 
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  • shetellsherselfshetellsherself Posts: 8,818
    Amongst The Waves
    I actually really like Backspacer, except for The End. That's one of less than a handful of songs in the entire catalog I don't like. The rest of the album is freakin great, imo, and gets shit on way too much around here.
    Yes!  Thank you!  I missed your post when I wrote mine above. 
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Unthought Known
    Of course we're depressed! We're Pearl Jam fans! Their biggest hits revolve around teenage death, incest, and abusive relationships! Didn't you see the "Sponsored by Prozac" sign above the forum?
  • shetellsherselfshetellsherself Posts: 8,818
    Amongst The Waves
    Of course we're depressed! We're Pearl Jam fans! Their biggest hits revolve around teenage death, incest, and abusive relationships! Didn't you see the "Sponsored by Prozac" sign above the forum?
    Haha!  That's too funny. Seriously it's been a rough night in my little neck of the woods. I have the impulse to do nothing else tonight than listen to why go, daughter and rvm loud in rotation with a little betterman thrown in and then end the session with black, nothing as it seems and all or none. I'm certain that would cure me immediately.  No Prozac or the fixer or amongst the waves needed :smiley:
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    6/19/95 Red Rocks
    9/11/98 MSG
    11/19/12 EV solo Tulsa
    7/19/13 Wrigley 10/19/13 Brooklyn 2 10/21/13 Philly 1 10/22/13 Philly 2 10/25/13 Hartford
    10/08/14 Tulsa 10/09/14 Lincoln
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    4/7/17 RRHOF New York City
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Unthought Known
    I'm sorry to hear that, man. I'd be lying if I said I were in a better place. I swear I played the Cat Stevens song "Father and Son" for like 45 minutes earlier. Fucking music, man. Knows the words and emotions when I don't and can't. 
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,309
    Amongst and Force of Nature are standouts on a mediocre album. 
    Tho I will take Backspacer any day of the week over the follow up. Just awful.
    Those are 2 of the weaker songs for me.  Pretty generic. And Lightning Bolt is the better album!
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