Poll--The Weakest Link: Backspacer Round 1

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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Unthought Known
    bootlegger10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Maybe we should have a rule for this album that you cannot make any negative comments about songs.  These threads won't be pretty.
    Nah.  Those comments are great. 

    Alright, here's my best:

    B-Side Material: Gonna See My Friend, Supersonic, Force of Nature (Riot Act B-Side quality and not the amazing B-Sides from the early 90's)

    I never want to hear ever again:  Unthought Known, Just Breathe

    Average:  The Fixer (live is great), Johnny Guitar, Speed of Sound

    Great Songs:  The End, Amongst the Waves, Got Some

    I'm with you 100% except for Force of Nature. 
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    edited May 2017
    Supersonic
    ledvedderman said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Maybe we should have a rule for this album that you cannot make any negative comments about songs.  These threads won't be pretty.
    Nah.  Those comments are great. 

    Alright, here's my best:

    B-Side Material: Gonna See My Friend, Supersonic, Force of Nature (Riot Act B-Side quality and not the amazing B-Sides from the early 90's)

    I never want to hear ever again:  Unthought Known, Just Breathe

    Average:  The Fixer (live is great), Johnny Guitar, Speed of Sound

    Great Songs:  The End, Amongst the Waves, Got Some

    I'm with you 100% except for Force of Nature. 
    I understand dislike for The Fixer but it is a great song to get the crowd going at shows as it is upbeat, has a strong singalong chorus, and is short.

    songs like just Breathe and Sirens are slow slogs that take forever live.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Unthought Known
    I look at The Fixer for what it is, a poppy lead single. You're right, it gets the crowd going. I really like the song. It's easily one of my favorites on the record. I think fans, me included, get spoiled by the history of this band and taking the high road in regards to leveling off the success they were headed towards. But these guys are all musicians and want their songs to be liked, even if it appears uncool or whatever. So I give them a pass on songs. At the end of the day it's just a fun pop song to get people moving...and it accomplishes that. And as a lead single, it certainly represents the album as a whole. 
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Just Breathe
    Amongst and Force of Nature are standouts on a mediocre album. 
    Tho I will take Backspacer any day of the week over the follow up. Just awful.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • shetellsherself
    shetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,835
    Amongst The Waves
    You are all depressing. I really enjoy backspacer. It makes me feel happy. Except the end. That one makes me feel sad. Don't know how to vote. While I like all the songs (as stated) none of them grab me as immediate favorites. I'll listen tomorrow again and decide. 
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    4/16/16 Greenville 4/28/16 Philly 1 4/29/16 Philly 2 5/1/16 MSG 1 5/2/16 MSG 2 8/7/16 Fenway 2 8/20/16 Wrigley 1
    4/7/17 RRHOF New York City
    9/2/18 Fenway 1 9/4/2018 Fenway 2
    9/18/21 Asbury Park
    2/4/22 EV Earthlings NYC 2/6/22 EV Earthlings Newark 9/11/22 MSG 9/14/22 Camden
    9/3/24 MSG 1 9/4/24 MSG 2 9/7/24 Philly 1 9/9/24 Philly 2
  • shetellsherself
    shetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,835
    Amongst The Waves
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I actually really like Backspacer, except for The End. That's one of less than a handful of songs in the entire catalog I don't like. The rest of the album is freakin great, imo, and gets shit on way too much around here.
    Yes!  Thank you!  I missed your post when I wrote mine above. 
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    6/19/95 Red Rocks
    9/11/98 MSG
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    10/08/14 Tulsa 10/09/14 Lincoln
    9/26/15 NYC Global Citizen
    4/16/16 Greenville 4/28/16 Philly 1 4/29/16 Philly 2 5/1/16 MSG 1 5/2/16 MSG 2 8/7/16 Fenway 2 8/20/16 Wrigley 1
    4/7/17 RRHOF New York City
    9/2/18 Fenway 1 9/4/2018 Fenway 2
    9/18/21 Asbury Park
    2/4/22 EV Earthlings NYC 2/6/22 EV Earthlings Newark 9/11/22 MSG 9/14/22 Camden
    9/3/24 MSG 1 9/4/24 MSG 2 9/7/24 Philly 1 9/9/24 Philly 2
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Unthought Known
    Of course we're depressed! We're Pearl Jam fans! Their biggest hits revolve around teenage death, incest, and abusive relationships! Didn't you see the "Sponsored by Prozac" sign above the forum?
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  • shetellsherself
    shetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,835
    Amongst The Waves
    ledvedderman said:
    Of course we're depressed! We're Pearl Jam fans! Their biggest hits revolve around teenage death, incest, and abusive relationships! Didn't you see the "Sponsored by Prozac" sign above the forum?
    Haha!  That's too funny. Seriously it's been a rough night in my little neck of the woods. I have the impulse to do nothing else tonight than listen to why go, daughter and rvm loud in rotation with a little betterman thrown in and then end the session with black, nothing as it seems and all or none. I'm certain that would cure me immediately.  No Prozac or the fixer or amongst the waves needed :smiley:
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    6/19/95 Red Rocks
    9/11/98 MSG
    11/19/12 EV solo Tulsa
    7/19/13 Wrigley 10/19/13 Brooklyn 2 10/21/13 Philly 1 10/22/13 Philly 2 10/25/13 Hartford
    10/08/14 Tulsa 10/09/14 Lincoln
    9/26/15 NYC Global Citizen
    4/16/16 Greenville 4/28/16 Philly 1 4/29/16 Philly 2 5/1/16 MSG 1 5/2/16 MSG 2 8/7/16 Fenway 2 8/20/16 Wrigley 1
    4/7/17 RRHOF New York City
    9/2/18 Fenway 1 9/4/2018 Fenway 2
    9/18/21 Asbury Park
    2/4/22 EV Earthlings NYC 2/6/22 EV Earthlings Newark 9/11/22 MSG 9/14/22 Camden
    9/3/24 MSG 1 9/4/24 MSG 2 9/7/24 Philly 1 9/9/24 Philly 2
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Unthought Known
    I'm sorry to hear that, man. I'd be lying if I said I were in a better place. I swear I played the Cat Stevens song "Father and Son" for like 45 minutes earlier. Fucking music, man. Knows the words and emotions when I don't and can't. 
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  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,324
    Dr. Delight said:
    Amongst and Force of Nature are standouts on a mediocre album. 
    Tho I will take Backspacer any day of the week over the follow up. Just awful.
    Those are 2 of the weaker songs for me.  Pretty generic. And Lightning Bolt is the better album!
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Just Breathe
    for the win!!!

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,651
    The Fixer
    dimitrispearljam said:
    for the win!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cXMTch4Deg
    I think it has turned into a great live "anthem". I also like the studio version.

    But it has the "Eddie has a cold" voice that plagues the entire album. It's shows up the most in this song.

    And I don't know what i prefer less, the "Eddie has a cold" voice of Backspacer or the "Eddie is hoarse, raspy and struggling" voice of S/T/Avocado. Thank god for the "Eddie just got out of bed" voice of Riot Act.


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  • BettrMan21
    BettrMan21 Chattanooga,Tn Posts: 291
    Johnny Guitar

    The weakest song in the studio album catalog, in my opinion. Otherwise, I think this album, although really short, is a good collection of songs.

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Johnny Guitar
    Dr. Delight said:
    Amongst and Force of Nature are standouts on a mediocre album. 
    Tho I will take Backspacer any day of the week over the follow up. Just awful.
    If you think Lightning Bolt is awful, then you have never heard an awful record in your life lol
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Johnny Guitar
    The Fixer should not be going out first round.

    People... c'mon, man. On any other album sure, but geez. Here? Worst song on this album? That's your vote?

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    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJForceofNature
    PJForceofNature Posts: 3,087
    Johnny Guitar
    Force of Nature will always be my favorite, although I love all of Backspacer, with the exception of Johnny Guitar!
    "A beacon on dry land"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,651
    The Fixer
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The Fixer should not be going out first round.

    People... c'mon, man. On any other album sure, but geez. Here? Worst song on this album? That's your vote?

    Dear gawd.
    Johnny Guitar has a funny-B-Side vibe to it at least. 
    I don't even know what The Fixer is. 

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    The Fixer
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The Fixer should not be going out first round.

    People... c'mon, man. On any other album sure, but geez. Here? Worst song on this album? That's your vote?

    Dear gawd.
    Some other songs have the odd cheesy line, but The Fixer is pure cheese throughout.
    When somethings broke, I wanna put a bit of fixin on it
    When somethings bored, I wanna put a little exciting on it
    If somethings low, I wanna put a little high on it...

    I rest my case
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,960
    Johnny Guitar
    ledvedderman said:
    I'm sorry to hear that, man. I'd be lying if I said I were in a better place. I swear I played the Cat Stevens song "Father and Son" for like 45 minutes earlier.
     Fucking music, man. Knows the words and emotions when I don't and can't. 
    Well said.  Why Backspacer has a special place forever in my heart.  My hero was dying and I couldnt get my head around it.  B/S came out as this was happening and just spoke to me -- The End (the most depressing song on the album and one of the most depressing songs from them, ever) in particular held an important place for me during those last days. 

    I will take the blame
    But just the same
    This is not me
    You see
    Believe
    I'm better than this

    I get why others crap on Backspacer, but I love it.  Always.  Saved me from my own hardheartedness and showed me how to feel again.  Made it OK to let any disappointment, anger, hurt, frustration, despair, and loneliness from the previous decade plus out from the corner I shoved it all into and to move on from the eventual loss.



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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    Speed Of Sound
    F Me In The Brain said:
    ledvedderman said:
    I'm sorry to hear that, man. I'd be lying if I said I were in a better place. I swear I played the Cat Stevens song "Father and Son" for like 45 minutes earlier.
     Fucking music, man. Knows the words and emotions when I don't and can't. 
    Well said.  Why Backspacer has a special place forever in my heart.  My hero was dying and I couldnt get my head around it.  B/S came out as this was happening and just spoke to me -- The End (the most depressing song on the album and one of the most depressing songs from them, ever) in particular held an important place for me during those last days. 

    I will take the blame
    But just the same
    This is not me
    You see
    Believe
    I'm better than this

    I get why others crap on Backspacer, but I love it.  Always.  Saved me from my own hardheartedness and showed me how to feel again.  Made it OK to let any disappointment, anger, hurt, frustration, despair, and loneliness from the previous decade plus out from the corner I shoved it all into and to move on from the eventual loss.




    Well said, my friend.

    Love "the End" too.

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