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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    Obama finally followed through with his "cross the red line" threat. Good for him.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    And the idiots called Clinton the warmonger...This sucks.

    Clinton was the neocon in the race but I always had faith that Trump would come around. Now only if he would drop that bomb on Assad's head like I requested.
    Let's see how that convo would go , hey Vlad I wanna take out your boy Assad can you move over so we don't kill any of your soldiers or if we do oops sorry..
    How do you think he will react ...
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    So now what is everyone ok no more Russian investigation after all bafoon now is a hero he dropped bombs on an airfield ...
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited April 2017
    Less of a problem with his statements concerning Syria before he was President or less of a problem with the quickness of resorting to bombs?

    http://www.npr.org/2017/04/04/522627064/on-the-record-president-trump-vs-private-citizen-trump-on-syria
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    That was a pretty radical shift in his own often stated policy.
    mondo unstable yo.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.
  • BS44325
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    InHiding80 said:

    Shoot first ask questions later. That worked well with Dubya last time. :disappointed:

    And in Libya as well...
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    BS44325 said:

    So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.

    Well, by Bibi's previous war mongering, Iran already has a nuclear weapon and seeing how Syria just received 59 missiles, why wouldn't they pursue one? Oh, and the US never lies about weapons of mass destruction or their president never lies about, gee, I don't know, their Syria policy? You own Trump BS, he's your guy.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    BS44325 said:

    So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.

    Ummm, the Obama administration? There was an election. Obama left office a few months ago. You own the melt down now BS with Trump and his ilk. Have you petitioned your government to reimburse the US for some of the cost of the $59 million missile strike? I hope. So seeing how NATO members should be paying up.
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  • dignin
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    BS44325 said:

    So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.

    Talk about comparing apples to oranges. You're a smart guy, I shouldn't have to explain this to you.
  • BS44325
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.

    Well, by Bibi's previous war mongering, Iran already has a nuclear weapon and seeing how Syria just received 59 missiles, why wouldn't they pursue one? Oh, and the US never lies about weapons of mass destruction or their president never lies about, gee, I don't know, their Syria policy? You own Trump BS, he's your guy.
    You say that as if it is something I am running from. My belief that he was the shitty candidate with more potential upside is slowly (rapidly?) being fulfilled. A major shift in US foreign policy took place last night and it is one I (and even congressional democrats) support. This is leadership that was missing in the world over the last 8 years which resulted in the worst actors to fill the vacuum. Don't get me wrong...this US action will make things very dangerous in the short term and global conflict is still possible but it was a change in policy that was absolutely necessary.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.

    Well, by Bibi's previous war mongering, Iran already has a nuclear weapon and seeing how Syria just received 59 missiles, why wouldn't they pursue one? Oh, and the US never lies about weapons of mass destruction or their president never lies about, gee, I don't know, their Syria policy? You own Trump BS, he's your guy.
    You say that as if it is something I am running from. My belief that he was the shitty candidate with more potential upside is slowly (rapidly?) being fulfilled. A major shift in US foreign policy took place last night and it is one I (and even congressional democrats) support. This is leadership that was missing in the world over the last 8 years which resulted in the worst actors to fill the vacuum. Don't get me wrong...this US action will make things very dangerous in the short term and global conflict is still possible but it was a change in policy that was absolutely necessary.
    A missile strike on an empty airfield is a major shift in US foreign policy? Since when? What's Trump's end game? What or who fills the vacuum? Russia and Iran don't have options and will accept this major shift in US foreign policy? Yea, right. When are you relocating to the US, by the way?
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  • BS44325
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.

    Ummm, the Obama administration? There was an election. Obama left office a few months ago. You own the melt down now BS with Trump and his ilk. Have you petitioned your government to reimburse the US for some of the cost of the $59 million missile strike? I hope. So seeing how NATO members should be paying up.
    Melt down? I am not really seeing it. Trump takes strong action that gets bipartisan support and gets his supreme court nomination confirmed the next day. If that's a melt down then sign me up for more melting!
  • BS44325
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    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.

    Talk about comparing apples to oranges. You're a smart guy, I shouldn't have to explain this to you.
    Oh yes you should explain. You need to explain how deals that rely on the compliance of murderous thugs should be trusted. Assad should not have been trusted. The mullahs of Iran should not be trusted as well. It is foolish naïveté.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.

    Ummm, the Obama administration? There was an election. Obama left office a few months ago. You own the melt down now BS with Trump and his ilk. Have you petitioned your government to reimburse the US for some of the cost of the $59 million missile strike? I hope. So seeing how NATO members should be paying up.
    Melt down? I am not really seeing it. Trump takes strong action that gets bipartisan support and gets his supreme court nomination confirmed the next day. If that's a melt down then sign me up for more melting!
    You'll get it in the form of Trumps energy and EPA policies as well as in higher gas prices, unemployment and a tanked economy. But sadly, you won't be affected by it. Stay safe in your bubble.
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  • BS44325
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.

    Ummm, the Obama administration? There was an election. Obama left office a few months ago. You own the melt down now BS with Trump and his ilk. Have you petitioned your government to reimburse the US for some of the cost of the $59 million missile strike? I hope. So seeing how NATO members should be paying up.
    Melt down? I am not really seeing it. Trump takes strong action that gets bipartisan support and gets his supreme court nomination confirmed the next day. If that's a melt down then sign me up for more melting!
    You'll get it in the form of Trumps energy and EPA policies as well as in higher gas prices, unemployment and a tanked economy. But sadly, you won't be affected by it. Stay safe in your bubble.
    Ha. Another 263,000 jobs last month. When you remove restrictive regulations you get jobs. Wait until tax reform comes. We'll see who is in a bubble then.
  • dignin
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    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.

    Talk about comparing apples to oranges. You're a smart guy, I shouldn't have to explain this to you.
    Oh yes you should explain. You need to explain how deals that rely on the compliance of murderous thugs should be trusted. Assad should not have been trusted. The mullahs of Iran should not be trusted as well. It is foolish naïveté.
    Yeah, because we are just taking Iran's word about it.

    But that's another topic that has another thread. You want to make that case, go post over there about it.
  • ikiT
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    AND (this is just my opinion) now that he's introduced the MIC into his presidency it's going to be virtually impossible to get rid of him.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.

    Ummm, the Obama administration? There was an election. Obama left office a few months ago. You own the melt down now BS with Trump and his ilk. Have you petitioned your government to reimburse the US for some of the cost of the $59 million missile strike? I hope. So seeing how NATO members should be paying up.
    Melt down? I am not really seeing it. Trump takes strong action that gets bipartisan support and gets his supreme court nomination confirmed the next day. If that's a melt down then sign me up for more melting!
    You'll get it in the form of Trumps energy and EPA policies as well as in higher gas prices, unemployment and a tanked economy. But sadly, you won't be affected by it. Stay safe in your bubble.
    Ha. Another 263,000 jobs last month. When you remove restrictive regulations you get jobs. Wait until tax reform comes. We'll see who is in a bubble then.
    That was last month, this is now:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/business/economy/job-creation-unemployment-trump.amp.html

    Try to keep up, professor.

    And there's this:

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/06/investing/oil-prices-syria-us-military-action/index.html

    Keep looking out from your bubble.
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