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mrussel1 · February 2017

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

my2hands said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I think optimism is speaking in this thread recently.

I'm not so sure Trump has one foot out the door, folks.
I hope he stays all 4 years because he is obviously a disaster and this is the best thing to ever happen to the progressive movement in North America...

The best part of this fiasco is that it is destroying their credibility and agenda...

But honestly... I want this orange bully to be proven to be a traitor in bed with the Russians and do the perp walk out of the White House.
it's all fun and games until a nuke goes off
I'm of the same thinking. I want his 4 years of nonsense to destroy the republican far right, but at the same time, how much damage is he going to do if he's in office that long.
People thought his candidacy alone would destroy the republican party and yet they are more republicans in government then ever. The Flynn resignation certainly doesn't look good but there is no evidence that Trump is doing "damage". The policies he has put in place are still in line with what his voters wanted and I don't see that changing regardless how messy it appears. His campaign was messy...he had three different campaign managers until he found success. People will be hired and fired based on results and it's quite possible the removal of Flynn will be a blessing in disguise as there has always been tension between him and the intelligence agencies. Nothing that has happened so far has made the electoral terrain any better for the Dems in 2018. The question is when/if the messiness becomes electorally significant?

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

my2hands said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I think optimism is speaking in this thread recently.

I'm not so sure Trump has one foot out the door, folks.
I hope he stays all 4 years because he is obviously a disaster and this is the best thing to ever happen to the progressive movement in North America...

The best part of this fiasco is that it is destroying their credibility and agenda...

But honestly... I want this orange bully to be proven to be a traitor in bed with the Russians and do the perp walk out of the White House.
it's all fun and games until a nuke goes off
I'm of the same thinking. I want his 4 years of nonsense to destroy the republican far right, but at the same time, how much damage is he going to do if he's in office that long.
People thought his candidacy alone would destroy the republican party and yet they are more republicans in government then ever. The Flynn resignation certainly doesn't look good but there is no evidence that Trump is doing "damage". The policies he has put in place are still in line with what his voters wanted and I don't see that changing regardless how messy it appears. His campaign was messy...he had three different campaign managers until he found success. People will be hired and fired based on results and it's quite possible the removal of Flynn will be a blessing in disguise as there has always been tension between him and the intelligence agencies. Nothing that has happened so far has made the electoral terrain any better for the Dems in 2018. The question is when/if the messiness becomes electorally significant?
Can you tell me the policies that he put in place that are in effect today? I literally can think of zero. All of those EO's he signed were a bunch of marketing fluff.
It certainly isn't much so far but it is a sense of direction. Pipeline approvals aren't fluff. Removal of burdensome regulations is not fluff. A conservative supreme court judge is certainly not fluff. Add to that a direction of a better business environment through improving the tax code, eliminating Obamacare, continued removal of regulation. Add to that a focus on school choice. Add to the enforcing the rule of law. Add to that a harder stance in the war on terror and a tougher stance on Iran. These things are happening and will continue to happen with time.

He didn't do any of the things (outside nominating a SCOTUS). Did you read the Dodd Frank related EO? No substance. Read the first paragraph here:

While not unimportant, the order is largely aspirational as it sets out a broad outline for the reforms the Trump administration will seek in financial regulation. However, the order, in and of itself, does not affect any regulatory changes.

The order does, however, include a directive to the secretary of the Treasury, but that directive — produce a report — will not produce any meaningful changes either.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/finance/318298-trumps-dodd-frank-eo-is-more-bark-than-bite

Has he changed the tax code (don't answer that because you well know that he cannot do that). Has he repealed Obamacare? He also has no power to do that. Rule of law? You mean the EO last week about that? Go ahead and read them and tell me what it actually does.

josevolution · February 2017

HughFreakingDillon said:

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

my2hands said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I think optimism is speaking in this thread recently.

I'm not so sure Trump has one foot out the door, folks.
I hope he stays all 4 years because he is obviously a disaster and this is the best thing to ever happen to the progressive movement in North America...

The best part of this fiasco is that it is destroying their credibility and agenda...

But honestly... I want this orange bully to be proven to be a traitor in bed with the Russians and do the perp walk out of the White House.
it's all fun and games until a nuke goes off
I'm of the same thinking. I want his 4 years of nonsense to destroy the republican far right, but at the same time, how much damage is he going to do if he's in office that long.
People thought his candidacy alone would destroy the republican party and yet they are more republicans in government then ever. The Flynn resignation certainly doesn't look good but there is no evidence that Trump is doing "damage". The policies he has put in place are still in line with what his voters wanted and I don't see that changing regardless how messy it appears. His campaign was messy...he had three different campaign managers until he found success. People will be hired and fired based on results and it's quite possible the removal of Flynn will be a blessing in disguise as there has always been tension between him and the intelligence agencies. Nothing that has happened so far has made the electoral terrain any better for the Dems in 2018. The question is when/if the messiness becomes electorally significant?
lol we're not even 2months into his presidency and your already claiming nothing will come of the mess that's hounding him !
no, he's not. he's saying no one knows yet, which is true.

lol like I said there is no way president Bafoon did not know all this way back before election , you might not believe it but I bet a lot of the established people in the know totally know how deep this Bafoon is in it !!

EdsonNascimento · February 2017

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?
That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.
A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.
so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

Gern Blansten · February 2017

PJPOWER said:

my2hands said:
Hillary is going to keep her options open for 2020... no doubt about it... especially considering she just won the popular vote by 3 million and would still be younger than Trump is now
Well, her running would be a solid reason for me to continue not voting democrat..."Still not with her"

Yeah because the GOP seems to have a good handle on everything...

my2hands · February 2017

8 years these clowns have been SCREAMING about Obamacare.. now that they have the power, they have squat. no ideas. no replacement. nothing.

nothing but a bunch of clowns

I have no idea how an actual conservative can support the bafoon, but I guess people just like to cheer for their team no matter what

mrussel1 · February 2017

josevolution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

my2hands said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I think optimism is speaking in this thread recently.

I'm not so sure Trump has one foot out the door, folks.
I hope he stays all 4 years because he is obviously a disaster and this is the best thing to ever happen to the progressive movement in North America...

The best part of this fiasco is that it is destroying their credibility and agenda...

But honestly... I want this orange bully to be proven to be a traitor in bed with the Russians and do the perp walk out of the White House.
it's all fun and games until a nuke goes off
I'm of the same thinking. I want his 4 years of nonsense to destroy the republican far right, but at the same time, how much damage is he going to do if he's in office that long.
People thought his candidacy alone would destroy the republican party and yet they are more republicans in government then ever. The Flynn resignation certainly doesn't look good but there is no evidence that Trump is doing "damage". The policies he has put in place are still in line with what his voters wanted and I don't see that changing regardless how messy it appears. His campaign was messy...he had three different campaign managers until he found success. People will be hired and fired based on results and it's quite possible the removal of Flynn will be a blessing in disguise as there has always been tension between him and the intelligence agencies. Nothing that has happened so far has made the electoral terrain any better for the Dems in 2018. The question is when/if the messiness becomes electorally significant?
lol we're not even 2months into his presidency and your already claiming nothing will come of the mess that's hounding him !
no, he's not. he's saying no one knows yet, which is true.
lol like I said there is no way president Bafoon did not know all this way back before election , you might not believe it but I bet a lot of the established people in the know totally know how deep this Bafoon is in it !!

Adam Schiff (ranking Dem on House Intelligence committee) told other Dems today that plenty more will be coming out in the next few days. Should be interesting. Saw the official name of this crisis too.. "Flynnghazi".

HughFreakingDillon · February 2017

josevolution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

my2hands said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I think optimism is speaking in this thread recently.

I'm not so sure Trump has one foot out the door, folks.
I hope he stays all 4 years because he is obviously a disaster and this is the best thing to ever happen to the progressive movement in North America...

The best part of this fiasco is that it is destroying their credibility and agenda...

But honestly... I want this orange bully to be proven to be a traitor in bed with the Russians and do the perp walk out of the White House.
it's all fun and games until a nuke goes off
I'm of the same thinking. I want his 4 years of nonsense to destroy the republican far right, but at the same time, how much damage is he going to do if he's in office that long.
People thought his candidacy alone would destroy the republican party and yet they are more republicans in government then ever. The Flynn resignation certainly doesn't look good but there is no evidence that Trump is doing "damage". The policies he has put in place are still in line with what his voters wanted and I don't see that changing regardless how messy it appears. His campaign was messy...he had three different campaign managers until he found success. People will be hired and fired based on results and it's quite possible the removal of Flynn will be a blessing in disguise as there has always been tension between him and the intelligence agencies. Nothing that has happened so far has made the electoral terrain any better for the Dems in 2018. The question is when/if the messiness becomes electorally significant?
lol we're not even 2months into his presidency and your already claiming nothing will come of the mess that's hounding him !
no, he's not. he's saying no one knows yet, which is true.
lol like I said there is no way president Bafoon did not know all this way back before election , you might not believe it but I bet a lot of the established people in the know totally know how deep this Bafoon is in it !!

of course I believe it. but what I believe isn't fact until it's proven to be. that's all he's saying.

mfc2006 · February 2017

mrussel1 said:

josevolution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

my2hands said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I think optimism is speaking in this thread recently.

I'm not so sure Trump has one foot out the door, folks.
I hope he stays all 4 years because he is obviously a disaster and this is the best thing to ever happen to the progressive movement in North America...

The best part of this fiasco is that it is destroying their credibility and agenda...

But honestly... I want this orange bully to be proven to be a traitor in bed with the Russians and do the perp walk out of the White House.
it's all fun and games until a nuke goes off
I'm of the same thinking. I want his 4 years of nonsense to destroy the republican far right, but at the same time, how much damage is he going to do if he's in office that long.
People thought his candidacy alone would destroy the republican party and yet they are more republicans in government then ever. The Flynn resignation certainly doesn't look good but there is no evidence that Trump is doing "damage". The policies he has put in place are still in line with what his voters wanted and I don't see that changing regardless how messy it appears. His campaign was messy...he had three different campaign managers until he found success. People will be hired and fired based on results and it's quite possible the removal of Flynn will be a blessing in disguise as there has always been tension between him and the intelligence agencies. Nothing that has happened so far has made the electoral terrain any better for the Dems in 2018. The question is when/if the messiness becomes electorally significant?
lol we're not even 2months into his presidency and your already claiming nothing will come of the mess that's hounding him !
no, he's not. he's saying no one knows yet, which is true.
lol like I said there is no way president Bafoon did not know all this way back before election , you might not believe it but I bet a lot of the established people in the know totally know how deep this Bafoon is in it !!
Adam Schiff (ranking Dem on House Intelligence committee) told other Dems today that plenty more will be coming out in the next few days. Should be interesting. Saw the official name of this crisis too.. "Flynnghazi".

I believe it. The thread is starting to unravel & pretty soon everything will be exposed.

EdsonNascimento · February 2017

my2hands said:
8 years these clowns have been SCREAMING about Obamacare.. now that they have the power, they have squat. no ideas. no replacement. nothing.

nothing but a bunch of clowns

I have no idea how an actual conservative can support the bafoon, but I guess people just like to cheer for their team no matter what

Brainwashed?

First, it's not 8 years, but go on. Second, they timed the roll out of critical parts until the last couple years with full impacts coming right about....NOW. So, the fact is, the prudent thing is to let the stuff hit the fan. The time to repeal was 3-4 years ago before you have to UNdo something. So, it's really a bit disingenuous how you are trying to frame this. Now the issue is, you have to UNdo a massive entitlement program to put any legit ideas in place. That's not so easy to do.

So, saying they have no ideas - false. I like the band aid method - just rip it off and go forward. But, even I know that's not the politically savvy way to deal with the boondoggle.

Go Beavers · February 2017

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?
That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.
A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.
so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?
Sort of like Vince Foster?

Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.

tbergs · February 2017

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?
That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.
A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.
so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?
Sort of like Vince Foster?

I was waiting for that response from someone. Where's Russell Crowe when you need him?

EdsonNascimento · February 2017

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?
That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.
A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.
so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?
Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?
That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.
A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.
so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?
Sort of like Vince Foster?
Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.

Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.

PJPOWER · February 2017

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

my2hands said:
Hillary is going to keep her options open for 2020... no doubt about it... especially considering she just won the popular vote by 3 million and would still be younger than Trump is now
Well, her running would be a solid reason for me to continue not voting democrat..."Still not with her"
Yeah because the GOP seems to have a good handle on everything...

Regardless, I will never vote for Hillary. I'll throw my vote third party well before. Actually, no, I will vote against her in the most effective way possible...which is a sucky situation right now.

mrussel1 · February 2017

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?
That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.
A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.
so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?
Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?
That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.
A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.
so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?
Sort of like Vince Foster?
Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.
Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.

Are you vying to be the new troll? We have plenty on both sides already. We could use some real conversation instead.

HughFreakingDillon · February 2017

sean spicer just now: "yesterday the president had an incredibly productive set of meetings and discussions with PM Joe Trudeau of Canada".

JOE.

his name is Justin you stupid fuck! LOL. he is the worst PS ever.

EdsonNascimento · February 2017

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?
That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.
A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.
so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?
Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?
That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.
A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.
so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?
Sort of like Vince Foster?
Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.
Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.
Are you vying to be the new troll? We have plenty on both sides already. We could use some real conversation instead.

Love the troll reference. It's a fucking message board. You guys are achieving nothing. Don't take yourself so seriously. Enjoy the banter and don't think everyone is one way or the other.

Real conversation. Ha, ha, ha. Sarcasm and poking fun at the topic has no place in our extremely important, ultra productive on-line dialog, so I'll call you an internet name. Too funny.

my2hands · February 2017

EdsonNascimento said:

my2hands said:
8 years these clowns have been SCREAMING about Obamacare.. now that they have the power, they have squat. no ideas. no replacement. nothing.

nothing but a bunch of clowns

I have no idea how an actual conservative can support the bafoon, but I guess people just like to cheer for their team no matter what
Brainwashed?

First, it's not 8 years, but go on. Second, they timed the roll out of critical parts until the last couple years with full impacts coming right about....NOW. So, the fact is, the prudent thing is to let the stuff hit the fan. The time to repeal was 3-4 years ago before you have to UNdo something. So, it's really a bit disingenuous how you are trying to frame this. Now the issue is, you have to UNdo a massive entitlement program to put any legit ideas in place. That's not so easy to do.

So, saying they have no ideas - false. I like the band aid method - just rip it off and go forward. But, even I know that's not the politically savvy way to deal with the boondoggle.

that sounds like the GOP healthcare plan...

nothing

my2hands · February 2017

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

my2hands said:
Hillary is going to keep her options open for 2020... no doubt about it... especially considering she just won the popular vote by 3 million and would still be younger than Trump is now
Well, her running would be a solid reason for me to continue not voting democrat..."Still not with her"
Yeah because the GOP seems to have a good handle on everything...
Regardless, I will never vote for Hillary. I'll throw my vote third party well before. Actually, no, I will vote against her in the most effective way possible...which is a sucky situation right now.

why will you "never vote for Hillary"?

ledvedderman · February 2017

my2hands said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

my2hands said:
Hillary is going to keep her options open for 2020... no doubt about it... especially considering she just won the popular vote by 3 million and would still be younger than Trump is now
Well, her running would be a solid reason for me to continue not voting democrat..."Still not with her"
Yeah because the GOP seems to have a good handle on everything...
Regardless, I will never vote for Hillary. I'll throw my vote third party well before. Actually, no, I will vote against her in the most effective way possible...which is a sucky situation right now.
why will you "never vote for Hillary"?

EMAILS!!! BENGHAZI!!! HILLARYCARE!!! EMAILS!!! Y CHROMOSOME!!!

HughFreakingDillon · February 2017

GOP Senators John Cornyn and Roy Blunt are calling for and investigation into Trump's ties with Russia and wants Flynn to testify.

is there an emoji with a plane going down in flames?

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