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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,420
    BS44325 said:

    Again incorrect. That was the Obama platform. That was hope and change. It failed. Middle and lower class voters flipped from blue to red not because Trump would improve their lives but because he will remove barriers to opportunity which prevent these voters from improving their own lives. They are not looking for a federal government issued handout. They see federal government and their agencies as the problem...not the solution. Fourth quarter growth under Obama was an anemic 1.6%...those kind of results were no longer acceptable.
    How are you coming to the conclusion that hope and change failed, because trump won? And how are you saying trump voters don't want handouts? Rural counties that vote red use public assistance at a very high rate. A lot are trying to cling to a rural/small town economy that is gone and not coming back. Maybe make America great again appealed to them because they think we can go back in time when that factory was open and when you could cut trees until there weren't any left. You're referencing job data, but trump voters haven't convinced me that they were looking at any factual data.
  • BS44325 said:

    Businesses plan ahead. The morning after election day the business environment changed due to the pending lifting of regulatory burdens which have only just begun. There will be plenty more growth to come.
    Sure. Growth followed by an incredible crash and burn. Another tanked economy to benefit the few. I know, I've seen it before.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    rgambs said:

    Nope, just one that isn't so terrible as Clinton!
    That can't be it?! What about a platform? Obama exhausted the "feel good" speech. He was great at it...I am not being sarcastic...but nobody will come along who can do what he did. It was lightning in a bottle and the party is going to need more then just being Not Trump.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    How are you coming to the conclusion that hope and change failed, because trump won? And how are you saying trump voters don't want handouts? Rural counties that vote red use public assistance at a very high rate. A lot are trying to cling to a rural/small town economy that is gone and not coming back. Maybe make America great again appealed to them because they think we can go back in time when that factory was open and when you could cut trees until there weren't any left. You're referencing job data, but trump voters haven't convinced me that they were looking at any factual data.
    Again look to elections at the state and local level. These people are rejecting your party. This happened before Trump. It will continue after.
  • And 227,000 jobs were created. And Trump took credit. Two weeks in office. Funny, but what opportunity is Trump going to bring back or allow access to? What barriers are there to improving ones life? Please explain.
    Luckily, the barrier that is planned parenthood will be removed, so people will be free to improve their lives without that getting in the way.


    I'm already sick of all this winning.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117

    Sure. Growth followed by an incredible crash and burn. Another tanked economy to benefit the few. I know, I've seen it before.
    I agree with this theory

    But it seems obvious though, right?
  • BS44325 said:

    I am not exactly sure what you mean?
    I mean to point out the fact that Trump's actions have managed to create tension among racial, gender, and religious lines- his positions overtly favouring his preferences.

    You are giving him credit for creating jobs and sparking an economy (which is debatable), but do you acknowledge the fact that whatever social progress might have been made to this point in time has been placed in a precarious position?

    Citizens in the country are openly and violently opposed to each other and it is at this point I would say you have missed what needs to be understood: this isn't about sore losers... this is about preserving social integrity.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Im in NYC tonight... should I head past Bafoons headquarters and see what's happening?

    Anybody want one of those stupid hats?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,591
    my2hands said:

    Im in NYC tonight... should I head past Bafoons headquarters and see what's happening?

    Anybody want one of those stupid hats?

    I got my hat directly ordered from the factory in China.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    mrussel1 said:

    I got my hat directly ordered from the factory in China.
    that's the best factory hands-down in the history of all factories in the universe. Bigly amazing.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,420
    BS44325 said:

    Again look to elections at the state and local level. These people are rejecting your party. This happened before Trump. It will continue after.
    I have looked at that. Look at the definition of confirmation bias. It will have a picture of you with a link to this thread.
  • And yet 3,000,000 more people voted for Hillary. How is that a rejection of our party?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,420
    I love this paragraph from the AP story this morning responding to trump's tweet about the judge. Sorry trump, you're in the professional world of adults now.
    "That rhetoric could put government lawyers defending Trump's order in a tough spot if a federal appeals court were to ask them about it.

    "Either they have to defend the statements that Judge Robart is a 'so-called judge,' which you can't do, or they have to distance themselves from the president, who is their boss," said University of Pittsburgh law professor Arthur Hellman."
  • Trump is a man child, not fit for the office.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,420
    Russia sells off 19.5% of it's bigly oil company Rosneft, nearly a quarter of it to a mystery shell company in the Caymans. Hmm....I wonder if trump and pals are connected in some way?
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-rosneft-privatisation-insight-idUSKBN1582OH
  • What is our country coming to when a judge can halt a Homeland Security travel ban and anyone, even with bad intentions, can come into U.S.?
  • What is our country coming to when a judge can halt a Homeland Security travel ban and anyone, even with bad intentions, can come into U.S.?

    Are you 10 years old?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,420

    Are you 10 years old?
    This is hilarious (and SAD) because it's an actual trump tweet and not the work of an amt troll.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489

    This is hilarious (and SAD) because it's an actual trump tweet and not the work of an amt troll.
    Yup. You think you've seen/heard it all, then something else is said/done.
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  • Because the ban was lifted by a judge, many very bad and dangerous people may be pouring into our country. A terrible decision
  • Are you 10 years old?
    I won't add latest tweet anymore.
    I will just post in bold the latest tweets of President Trump.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,280

    Because the ban was lifted by a judge, many very bad and dangerous people may be pouring into our country. A terrible decision

    The very definition of fear mongering. Lunatic in chief. Statements like that make it seem very clear he had no intention of a temporary ban.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Russia sells off 19.5% of it's bigly oil company Rosneft, nearly a quarter of it to a mystery shell company in the Caymans. Hmm....I wonder if trump and pals are connected in some way?
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-rosneft-privatisation-insight-idUSKBN1582OH

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,591

    What is our country coming to when a judge can halt a Homeland Security travel ban and anyone, even with bad intentions, can come into U.S.?

    Separation of powers adn checks and balances.. that's what it is and has been. I assume this was a Trump tweet since you are not American.
  • mrussel1 said:

    Separation of powers adn checks and balances.. that's what it is and has been. I assume this was a Trump tweet since you are not American.
    You didn't even read three posts back?
    I won't add latest tweet anymore.
    I will just post in bold the latest tweets of President Trump.
  • mrussel1 said:

    Separation of powers adn checks and balances.. that's what it is and has been. I assume this was a Trump tweet since you are not American.
    Trump didn't even characterize what the judge did properly. It wasn't a homeland security travel ban. It was his EO, the implementation of which the judge halted. He makes his own fake news.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,472

    What is our country coming to when a judge can halt a Homeland Security travel ban and anyone, even with bad intentions, can come into U.S.?

    Mark Cuban's response:
    Our country is coming to appreciate more and more every day that we have 3 branches of government
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,591

    Mark Cuban's response:
    Our country is coming to appreciate more and more every day that we have 3 branches of government
    Exactly... but there will come a time when he attempts to ignore the judicial branch. It's coming... I'm not sure how we handle it. It would also not surprise me if he tries to overturn legislative laws with a stroke of a pen. That will be another crisis.

    There was news today about him rolling back Dodd-Frank provisions, but that's a little misleading. He is trying to roll back rules written by the FTC under powers granted by the Dodd-Frank. It's splitting a hair but he probably has that power since the FTC is part of the Executive branch. If he tries to completely scrap laws then we have an issue.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Jewdicial branch!
    lmfao
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