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  • rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    tough guy huh, lmao
  • Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    tbergs said:

    I like how every time they put out a statement about some policy or stance, they make sure to either include that Obama did the same thing or criticize as doing nothing. He cannot get past his feelings of inadequacy.
    To be fair when Barry took over he couldn't say a sentence without saying "I inherited _____ from the Bush admin..
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,373
    PJPOWER said:

    Sorry, didn't realize you were speaking specifically about executive orders. I was thinking about comparisons on a more broad level...such as deporting illegal immigrants.
    I don't think most people had or have a real problem with legal, relatively well-handled deportations of illegal immigrants (although I do remember a few stories where some people kind of fit into these brutal cracks in the system. FWIW, I didn't always like what the Obama administration did when it came to illegal immigrants, mostly when it came to their children). What people have a problem with is barring legal immigration and refugees based on their religion, turning down desperate victims of war and suppression, racism, halting visas that were already approved, preventing employees of American companies from being able to do their jobs and students from being able to continue their studies, etc etc etc. If you are looking at what Trump is doing and comparing it to deportations that happened to illegal immigrants during Obama's presidency, I don't know if you actually understand the issue at all..... You are talking about a completely different issue. We don't even know how Trump is going to actually deal with illegal immigrants in America yet.... Judging from what's happened since Jan 20th, it's probably going to be pretty horrible, whatever the plan ends up being.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499

    Pot kettle black. I'm not the one apologizing for the name calling president and going silent when pjfan calls others names you pathetic partisan hack. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Piss off. The only Petty one is you. I won't normalize ignorance and stupidity as well as Trump himself. Don't like it? Tough shit. It's not name calling when it's true.
    Wowza! Say it don't spray it bro! If you are referring to Tom Petty then I'll take that as a compliment. If not, I'll just right everything you just said off as the babbling angry outburst of a mentally unstable person. In that sense, you and Trump may have some common ground. I truly hope you get the help you need...seriously.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJPOWER said:

    You've most likely seen it, when the Univision dude got thrown out for making a scene...just like any other protester at these events would have been.
    Plus some racism and xenophobia added in, oh wait, you are a conservative so you don't believe in that stuff.
    "Go back to Univision."
    "Get out of my country."
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    rgambs said:

    Plus some racism and xenophobia added in, oh wait, you are a conservative so you don't believe in that stuff.
    "Go back to Univision."
    "Get out of my country."
    I do not support nor condone what the person not running for president said in the video. And I never said Trump is not an asshat himself...but still prefer him over Hillary...which were pretty much our only two options here.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,373
    edited February 2017
    PJPOWER said:

    I do not support nor condone what the person not running for president said in the video. And I never said Trump is not an asshat himself...but still prefer him over Hillary...which were pretty much our only two options here.
    PJPOWER said:

    I do not support nor condone what the person not running for president said in the video. And I never said Trump is not an asshat himself...but still prefer him over Hillary...which were pretty much our only two options here.
    You don't think "Go back to Univision" means anything? That came out of Trump's mouth. Given the history of Trump's comments about Univision and Mexico, I think the meaning behind that is glaring. The other guy just used that comment as a launch pad.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJ_Soul said:

    You don't think "Go back to Univision" means anything? That came out of Trump's mouth. Given the history of Trump's comments about Univision and Mexico, I think the meaning behind that is glaring. The other guy just used that comment as a launch pad.
    Jorge Ramos is employed by Univision...
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  • Latest tweet,
    Everybody is arguing whether or not it is a BAN. Call it what you want, it is about keeping bad people (with bad intentions) out of country!
  • Pot kettle black. I'm not the one apologizing for the name calling president and going silent when pjfan calls others names you pathetic partisan hack. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Piss off. The only Petty one is you. I won't normalize ignorance and stupidity as well as Trump himself. Don't like it? Tough shit. It's not name calling when it's true.
    Don't bring me into your outbursts please. I get it, you don't like President Trump as your ruler.
    Start doing something politically active and be the change!
  • rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    PJPOWER said:

    Jorge Ramos is employed by Univision...
    his boss and Univision owner is ....
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/haim-saban-raises-34m-support-747379

  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,279
    Wma31394 said:

    To be fair when Barry took over he couldn't say a sentence without saying "I inherited _____ from the Bush admin..
    I was actually wondering what Obama and other past presidents have done.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,373
    edited February 2017
    PJPOWER said:

    Jorge Ramos is employed by Univision...
    I know that. I just don't think the comment was meant only literally (his general attitude towards Univision and that whole story, his personal beef with Univision, the racial context behind that... it all adds up).
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,185
    If Beyoncé is okay bringing twins into this world I think we'll be alright.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,373
    edited February 2017

    Latest tweet,
    Everybody is arguing whether or not it is a BAN. Call it what you want, it is about keeping bad people (with bad intentions) out of country!

    Haha. Can he ever not utter an absurdity? Obviously it has NOTHING to do with that, given that all the countries where actual terrorists that attacked the US came from are not on the list, lol, and this ban is keeping people who have been proven to NOT be bad people from entering.

    #AlternativeFacts strike again!
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  • rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299

    If Beyoncé is okay bringing twins into this world I think we'll be alright.

    The children's father is a self-admitted former heroin dealer. How many people died in the late 80's off his "Hawaiian punch" or "tango and cash" junk? He will burn in hell. lol

    Albeit Reasonable Doubt is UNREAL!

  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,894
    Yeah notice how all the talk of Russia or anything pertaining to all the issues concerning Bafoon have dropped off the face of the Earth in the end he will get away with everything that's considered inappropriate for a sitting president ! lol and people were scared of Obama this Bafoon will do more damage than If Obama had serve three terms ...
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    Mark Warner VA
    Joe Manchin WV
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,894

    Heidi Heitkamp ND
    Mark Warner VA
    Joe Manchin WV
    Angus King ME
    Democratic (or independent) senators who voted with Republicans to approve Exxon CEO for Secretary of State

    Great to know I hope voters in those states take notice of these senators !
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,373

    Yeah notice how all the talk of Russia or anything pertaining to all the issues concerning Bafoon have dropped off the face of the Earth in the end he will get away with everything that's considered inappropriate for a sitting president ! lol and people were scared of Obama this Bafoon will do more damage than If Obama had serve three terms ...

    Seems to me like it's all anybody is talking about.... But I agree that, unless American politicians actually take a real stand en masse, he will still get away with whatever the fuck he wants. I am not seeing any of these "checks and balances" so many people were claiming existed. If Trump and friends can just ignore those so-called checks and balances, as seems to be the case so far, there aren't any checks and balances at all, right? I mean, there are already so many things that Trump could be impeached on. Just all the conflicts of interest alone should be enough.... and nobody is lifting a finger to do so.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,185
    rssesq said:

    The children's father is a self-admitted former heroin dealer. How many people died in the late 80's off his "Hawaiian punch" or "tango and cash" junk? He will burn in hell. lol

    Albeit Reasonable Doubt is UNREAL!

    Jay Z has nothing to do with what I wrote. Fathers do not matter in 2017.
  • PJ_Soul said:

    Seems to me like it's all anybody is talking about.... But I agree that, unless American politicians actually take a real stand en masse, he will still get away with whatever the fuck he wants. I am not seeing any of these "checks and balances" so many people were claiming existed. If Trump and friends can just ignore those so-called checks and balances, as seems to be the case so far, there aren't any checks and balances at all, right? I mean, there are already so many things that Trump could be impeached on. Just all the conflicts of interest alone should be enough.... and nobody is lifting a finger to do so.
    47 lawsuits have been filed against Trump thus far. There's your "check." Some of which may lead to depositions. Those will be the most interesting. Follow the money.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,419

    Jay Z has nothing to do with what I wrote. Fathers do not matter in 2017.
    A new slogan for 2017?
  • rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299

    Jay Z has nothing to do with what I wrote. Fathers do not matter in 2017.
    Unless it's 2 fathers with no mama,

  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,373

    47 lawsuits have been filed against Trump thus far. There's your "check." Some of which may lead to depositions. Those will be the most interesting. Follow the money.
    I guess you're right.... I suppose I don't have much faith in any of that, but I hope my lack of faith proves baseless. I think maybe I have the sense that they can do anything they want because that's what they did even when Obama was in office. They were able to keep him from appointing someone to the SCOTUS, which to me seemed illegal/unconstitutional... but it happened and nobody did anything about it for some reason. It seems to me like there are rules, but if someone decides they don't want to follow them, well.... that's the end of it.
    I wonder how many lawsuits have been filed against other leaders who set themselves up as dictators? What happened to them?
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,279

    Jay Z has nothing to do with what I wrote. Fathers do not matter in 2017.
    I'm not following your statement. What are you referring to?
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    Were you hiding in a cave since The May 2011 annual White House correspondents dinner or are you that fucking retarded? Go back to your coloring book, racist. Adults are talking here. Google it. I'm not your goddamn remedial history teacher.
    Call me anything you like, except words that offend others. You may have missed a post on here about using the word retarded and retard. Why don't you remove it from your adult vocabulary or at least keep it off these boards. Are you adult enough to respect that request on behalf of those that you unknowingly offend?
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,227
    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't think most people had or have a real problem with legal, relatively well-handled deportations of illegal immigrants (although I do remember a few stories where some people kind of fit into these brutal cracks in the system. FWIW, I didn't always like what the Obama administration did when it came to illegal immigrants, mostly when it came to their children). What people have a problem with is barring legal immigration and refugees based on their religion, turning down desperate victims of war and suppression, racism, halting visas that were already approved, preventing employees of American companies from being able to do their jobs and students from being able to continue their studies, etc etc etc. If you are looking at what Trump is doing and comparing it to deportations that happened to illegal immigrants during Obama's presidency, I don't know if you actually understand the issue at all..... You are talking about a completely different issue. We don't even know how Trump is going to actually deal with illegal immigrants in America yet.... Judging from what's happened since Jan 20th, it's probably going to be pretty horrible, whatever the plan ends up being.


    While I agree it was super abrupt and disheartening to see it all go down, there's obvious reasons why the temporary ban needed to happen. No one wants to fuck with perfectly legit citizens, but something needed to be done. The 459 Islamic terrorist acts worldwide since 1979 should prove to any doubter beyond a reasonable doubt that there's one major threat worldwide these days. (Of course the argument that we the U.S. may fall into the aggressor category as well is fair game).

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

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  • PJ_Soul said:

    I guess you're right.... I suppose I don't have much faith in any of that, but I hope my lack of faith proves baseless. I think maybe I have the sense that they can do anything they want because that's what they did even when Obama was in office. They were able to keep him from appointing someone to the SCOTUS, which to me seemed illegal/unconstitutional... but it happened and nobody did anything about it for some reason. It seems to me like there are rules, but if someone decides they don't want to follow them, well.... that's the end of it.
    I wonder how many lawsuits have been filed against other leaders who set themselves up as dictators? What happened to them?
    The majority in the senate can make the rules. That's how we went from a simple majority to needing 60 votes to end a filibuster, the thought being it was a further check on the majority by requiring some minority party cross over. Now, they're talking about changing the rules to make cabinet approvals a simple majority and not 2/3s as stipulated in the constitution, hence the nuclear option. The senate is designed to be the more deliberative, level headed legislative body where cooler heads prevail as only 2/3s are up for re-election and the others have 2-4 years left to serve before they're up. The house has everyone up for re-election every two years so they're more volatile. But, it's seems the Repubs want to dispense with decorum and tradition and blow everything up.

    The lawsuits consist of violating the constitution via abuse of executive power, skipping the checks/balances and criminal/treasonous. Censure, forced resignation, impeachment or not being re-elected are all potential outcomes. Time will tell. Follow the money.


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