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tbergs

mfc2006 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/i-dont-need-the-mexicans-report-claims-trump-threatened-to-send-troops-to-mexico-in-call-with-nieto/

And there there's this....

That would certainly explain the cancellation of the meeting. Jesus.

Ugh.

No one has more respect, tremendous respect for Mexico....

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/31/politics/donald-trump-mexico-statements/ (And this is old)

mfc2006

tbergs said:

mfc2006 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/i-dont-need-the-mexicans-report-claims-trump-threatened-to-send-troops-to-mexico-in-call-with-nieto/

And there there's this....

That would certainly explain the cancellation of the meeting. Jesus.

Ugh.

No one has more respect, tremendous respect for Mexico....

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/31/politics/donald-trump-mexico-statements/ (And this is old)

Bigly respect...if fact, it's the bigliest in the entire universe.

JC29856

Trickle down racism
Kelly replaces hall!

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/01/media/tamron-hall-leaving-nbc/index.html

Go Beavers

mfc2006 said:

tbergs said:

mfc2006 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/i-dont-need-the-mexicans-report-claims-trump-threatened-to-send-troops-to-mexico-in-call-with-nieto/

And there there's this....

That would certainly explain the cancellation of the meeting. Jesus.

Ugh.

No one has more respect, tremendous respect for Mexico....

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/31/politics/donald-trump-mexico-statements/ (And this is old)

Bigly respect...if fact, it's the bigliest in the entire universe.

And he even tweeted that he loves the Hispanics!

JC29856

You're probably the good guy when the Kock brothers and Soros are spending hundreds of millions against you!

https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/647505

tbergs

JC29856 said:

Trickle down racism
Kelly replaces hall!

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/01/media/tamron-hall-leaving-nbc/index.html

Well at least no one could ever replace you

HesCalledDyer

Go Beavers said:

tbergs said:

my2hands said:

White House: We are officially putting Iran "on notice"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/michael-flynn-condemns-iran-actions/index.html

I like how every time they put out a statement about some policy or stance, they make sure to either include that Obama did the same thing or criticize as doing nothing. He cannot get past his feelings of inadequacy.

What's also interesting is that trump supporters do the exact thing (see amt for references).

Yep, that's the Trump defense for everything now. "Look, look, see, look, A-ha! Obama did it, too!" Then hide behind the guise of "we're just trying to point out hypocrisy." Speaking of playing that game...

Obama executive orders: "What! What is he doing? Such an abuse of power! Get him outta there! Impeach! IMPEACH!"
Trump executive orders: "Finally, someone is getting shit done!"

PJPOWER

HesCalledDyer said:

Go Beavers said:

tbergs said:

my2hands said:

White House: We are officially putting Iran "on notice"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/michael-flynn-condemns-iran-actions/index.html

I like how every time they put out a statement about some policy or stance, they make sure to either include that Obama did the same thing or criticize as doing nothing. He cannot get past his feelings of inadequacy.

What's also interesting is that trump supporters do the exact thing (see amt for references).

Yep, that's the Trump defense for everything now. "Look, look, see, look, A-ha! Obama did it, too!" Then hide behind the guise of "we're just trying to point out hypocrisy." Speaking of playing that game...

Obama executive orders: "What! What is he doing? Such an abuse of power! Get him outta there! Impeach! IMPEACH!"
Trump executive orders: "Finally, someone is getting shit done!"

Haha, since you guys are such big fans of this tactic...

PJ_Soul

HesCalledDyer said:

Go Beavers said:

tbergs said:

my2hands said:

White House: We are officially putting Iran "on notice"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/michael-flynn-condemns-iran-actions/index.html

I like how every time they put out a statement about some policy or stance, they make sure to either include that Obama did the same thing or criticize as doing nothing. He cannot get past his feelings of inadequacy.

What's also interesting is that trump supporters do the exact thing (see amt for references).

Yep, that's the Trump defense for everything now. "Look, look, see, look, A-ha! Obama did it, too!" Then hide behind the guise of "we're just trying to point out hypocrisy." Speaking of playing that game...

Obama executive orders: "What! What is he doing? Such an abuse of power! Get him outta there! Impeach! IMPEACH!"
Trump executive orders: "Finally, someone is getting shit done!"

While the differences between the two are glaring. One did it responsibly and with care to minimize negative effects on people (and mostly for positive gain for people), while the other does it completely irresponsibly and recklessly in a way that directly harms many people. Apples and oranges. It's absurd that people try to compare the two in any way, honestly. I haven't seen a single instance where the comparison between Obama and Trump is valid.

rssesq

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Go Beavers said:

tbergs said:

my2hands said:

White House: We are officially putting Iran "on notice"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/michael-flynn-condemns-iran-actions/index.html

I like how every time they put out a statement about some policy or stance, they make sure to either include that Obama did the same thing or criticize as doing nothing. He cannot get past his feelings of inadequacy.

What's also interesting is that trump supporters do the exact thing (see amt for references).

Yep, that's the Trump defense for everything now. "Look, look, see, look, A-ha! Obama did it, too!" Then hide behind the guise of "we're just trying to point out hypocrisy." Speaking of playing that game...

Obama executive orders: "What! What is he doing? Such an abuse of power! Get him outta there! Impeach! IMPEACH!"
Trump executive orders: "Finally, someone is getting shit done!"

Haha, since you guys are such big fans of this tactic...

Janet RENO 911, lol

rssesq

my2hands

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/i-dont-need-the-mexicans-report-claims-trump-threatened-to-send-troops-to-mexico-in-call-with-nieto/

And there there's this....

Wow

I hope that's not true... sending troops in?

We know it's true though

PJPOWER

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Go Beavers said:

tbergs said:

my2hands said:

White House: We are officially putting Iran "on notice"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/michael-flynn-condemns-iran-actions/index.html

I like how every time they put out a statement about some policy or stance, they make sure to either include that Obama did the same thing or criticize as doing nothing. He cannot get past his feelings of inadequacy.

What's also interesting is that trump supporters do the exact thing (see amt for references).

Yep, that's the Trump defense for everything now. "Look, look, see, look, A-ha! Obama did it, too!" Then hide behind the guise of "we're just trying to point out hypocrisy." Speaking of playing that game...

Obama executive orders: "What! What is he doing? Such an abuse of power! Get him outta there! Impeach! IMPEACH!"
Trump executive orders: "Finally, someone is getting shit done!"

While the differences between the two are glaring. One did it responsibly and with care to minimize negative effects on people (and mostly for positive gain for people), while the other does it completely irresponsibly and recklessly in a way that directly harms many people. Apples and oranges. It's absurd that people try to compare the two in any way, honestly. I haven't seen a single instance where the comparison between Obama and Trump is valid.

Apples and oranges and multiple perspectives.
https://youtu.be/qw6tjBxvIPo

InHiding80

JC29856 said:

vaggar99 said:

ho

my2hands said:

Donald Trump’s father was arrested at a Klan riot.

Most of the national media studiously avoided printing that simple declarative sentence since Donald Trump decided to run for president. Most of the country’s politicians have remained strangely silent on the topic.

Public commentators did not connect the dots even as President-elect Trump attacked the civil rights hero, John Lewis, when having a Klan sympathizer for a father would seem to be highly pertinent in explaining his behavior.

Yet the factual evidence seems strong. Trump’s father Fred was arrested in New York City in 1927, when a group of Klansmen got into a brawl with police officers during a Memorial Day parade in Queens. There is a document trail, and the names, dates, and addresses match up. The New York Times published a story about the riot and the seven men who were arrested; Fred Trump is mentioned by name. His address is given at 175-24 Devonshire Road, Jamaica, New York City, and the federal census of 1930 shows that Fred Trump resided at that address. The newspaper does not identify him as a Klan member, or clarify whether he was wearing a Klan robe—as were many of the demonstrators―but he did get arrested, and all seven men were represented by the same attorneys. Two days after the brawl, Fred Trump was discharged from custody, with no explanation that can be discovered from public records. After the website Boing Boing reported the story in 2015, Donald Trump denied it, and he has not publicly discussed it since then.

The New York Daily News, the Washington Post, the New York Times and a few other news outlets mentioned the connection briefly in 2016, and then they dropped it. Throughout the campaign, most of the media maintained a deafening silence, as did most of the nation’s politicians in both parties. If Fred Trump was a full-fledged Klansman, no one seemed interested in pursuing the story. Journalists and politicians displayed the most determined zeal in investigating every aspect of Hillary Clinton’s email in 2016, and 20 years ago they showed the same zeal in investigating the Clintons’ investment in Whitewater.

Yet the family history of the Republican Party’s nominee merited nothing close to that scrutiny. And this is the immediate family, the man’s own father, not some distant ancestor from another century, a father with the power to shape the boy’s most profound assumptions about the world. Moreover, Donald Trump has often expressed his admiration for his father. Thoughtful adults can hear the echoes of one hundred years ago in the president’s encouragement of violence at campaign rallies, his prejudices against minorities, and his use of violent language.

Historians know that the Ku Klux Klan, founded in Tennessee in 1866 by ex-Confederate officers, was created to intimidate black Southerners, especially those who wanted to vote, as well as the region’s ethnic and religious minorities. Since the 1860s, the Klan has spread all over the United States, with chapters in every region, and its targets have expanded to include immigrants, gays, and women who work outside the home. In the 1920s, the Klan grew dramatically in the cities of the North, often in response to the arrival of Catholics from Eastern and Central Europe. Accordingly, the Klansmen in Queens protested their presence in 1927 in New York City.

But in the public mind, the organization is still associated largely with the South. Perhaps that is one explanation for the silence on Fred Trump, Donald’s origins in the urban North. Maybe it is still too hard to face up to bigotry and prejudice anywhere outside the South.

We can easily imagine what would have happened if there had been the faintest rumor that Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, or Al Gore had a Klan sympathizer in the family—page one stories and protracted coverage in the media, politicians holding forth, bristling with the assumption that the allegation was probably true. Carter, Clinton, and Gore would have been judged unfit for public service, and their careers would have ended long before they reached national office.

Maybe there are other explanations for the silence about Fred Trump, beginning with shame, a deep embarrassment that the Klan has lasted so long and spread throughout the country, including New York. Perhaps it was the hope that the son would turn away from the spectre of a man who had been arrested at a Klan riot. Maybe it was the well-meaning but naïve belief that Donald Trump could not win the election.

Now he inhabits the White House. Let us hope that the country’s media and political leadership recover their usual probing interest in the President’s background, his motives, and his veracity. The future of the Republic may depend on it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-family-history-donald-fred-and-the-ku-klux_us_588e549de4b0cd25e4904a3f

conservatives will argue that racism skips a generation

Liberal proof Trump is racist, ignoring the hear say, his father was arrested on memorial day in queens 90 years ago, Klansmen were also arrested.

Liberals will argue that racism is hereditary.

Were you hiding in a cave since The May 2011 annual White House correspondents dinner or are you that fucking retarded? Go back to your coloring book, racist. Adults are talking here. Google it. I'm not your goddamn remedial history teacher.

InHiding80

my2hands said:

You guys are funny.

We need more laughs right now.

I like Jeopardy.

JC and pjfan are the Sean Connerys of the game and we're all Will Ferrell

InHiding80

PJPOWER said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

g under p said:

PJPOWER said:

vaggar99 said:

Oh yes the birther movement. How shall we begin?

Let's start here
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xLGG8VlDAOc

Or maybe her stating that black kids are " super predators"...are you sure that a vote for Clinton was not a vote for a racist?

OK Hillary is racist....That's probably one of many reasons she lost the election. However, the person this country did elect appears to have perpensity to NOT care for those of color. Nothing wrong for calling him out on what he is.

Peace

Just saying...if you voted for Hillary, you are obviously just as much of a racist as she is...isn't that the current rhetoric?

The current rhetoric is this: trump's a racist. A lot of racist voted for trump. A lot of people who claim they aren't racist but actually are voted for trump. Some people who aren't racist voted for trump and somehow made it okay despite trump being a racist and having racist policies.

Hillary is a racist, a lot of people voted for Hillary that claim they aren't racist but actually voted for Hillary. Some people who aren't racist voted for Hillary and somehow made it okay despite Hillary being racist and having a record of supporting the same "racist" policies that Trump is now.

Did you pull a muscle with that reach?

You do bring up another type of race related rhetoric: There's racists spread equally amongst all groups and regions, trump's not racist any more than anyone else. In fact, he's more like Clinton than different feom her. Liberals are just as racist as conservatives, etc.

All of this is a form of denial.

Cool story...may want to discuss it with an inner city "super predator". I didn't say "all groups", just HRC. I mean there are plenty of pictures with Trump hanging out with Hillary in the past. Did they both meet at a clan rally? We'll never know...

I'm beginning to think you ARE Donald Trump with the thoughtless, empty, elementary shit that springs from your keyboard.

You're doing much better...bigly better! I cannot afford Trump's spray tans...

I thought he just rubbed pumpkin innards all over his face every morning.

Has anyone considered the possibility that he is actually a jack-o-lantern? I mean, scientists did just create a pig/human hybrid...human/pumpkin?

Get Billy Corgan to smash him. Oh wait. He's lovey dovey with Alex Jones. Damnit!

Uncle Fester is a douche anyways. Just ask his ex band mates.

PJPOWER

InHiding80 said:

JC29856 said:

vaggar99 said:

ho

my2hands said:

Donald Trump’s father was arrested at a Klan riot.

Most of the national media studiously avoided printing that simple declarative sentence since Donald Trump decided to run for president. Most of the country’s politicians have remained strangely silent on the topic.

Public commentators did not connect the dots even as President-elect Trump attacked the civil rights hero, John Lewis, when having a Klan sympathizer for a father would seem to be highly pertinent in explaining his behavior.

Yet the factual evidence seems strong. Trump’s father Fred was arrested in New York City in 1927, when a group of Klansmen got into a brawl with police officers during a Memorial Day parade in Queens. There is a document trail, and the names, dates, and addresses match up. The New York Times published a story about the riot and the seven men who were arrested; Fred Trump is mentioned by name. His address is given at 175-24 Devonshire Road, Jamaica, New York City, and the federal census of 1930 shows that Fred Trump resided at that address. The newspaper does not identify him as a Klan member, or clarify whether he was wearing a Klan robe—as were many of the demonstrators―but he did get arrested, and all seven men were represented by the same attorneys. Two days after the brawl, Fred Trump was discharged from custody, with no explanation that can be discovered from public records. After the website Boing Boing reported the story in 2015, Donald Trump denied it, and he has not publicly discussed it since then.

The New York Daily News, the Washington Post, the New York Times and a few other news outlets mentioned the connection briefly in 2016, and then they dropped it. Throughout the campaign, most of the media maintained a deafening silence, as did most of the nation’s politicians in both parties. If Fred Trump was a full-fledged Klansman, no one seemed interested in pursuing the story. Journalists and politicians displayed the most determined zeal in investigating every aspect of Hillary Clinton’s email in 2016, and 20 years ago they showed the same zeal in investigating the Clintons’ investment in Whitewater.

Yet the family history of the Republican Party’s nominee merited nothing close to that scrutiny. And this is the immediate family, the man’s own father, not some distant ancestor from another century, a father with the power to shape the boy’s most profound assumptions about the world. Moreover, Donald Trump has often expressed his admiration for his father. Thoughtful adults can hear the echoes of one hundred years ago in the president’s encouragement of violence at campaign rallies, his prejudices against minorities, and his use of violent language.

Historians know that the Ku Klux Klan, founded in Tennessee in 1866 by ex-Confederate officers, was created to intimidate black Southerners, especially those who wanted to vote, as well as the region’s ethnic and religious minorities. Since the 1860s, the Klan has spread all over the United States, with chapters in every region, and its targets have expanded to include immigrants, gays, and women who work outside the home. In the 1920s, the Klan grew dramatically in the cities of the North, often in response to the arrival of Catholics from Eastern and Central Europe. Accordingly, the Klansmen in Queens protested their presence in 1927 in New York City.

But in the public mind, the organization is still associated largely with the South. Perhaps that is one explanation for the silence on Fred Trump, Donald’s origins in the urban North. Maybe it is still too hard to face up to bigotry and prejudice anywhere outside the South.

We can easily imagine what would have happened if there had been the faintest rumor that Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, or Al Gore had a Klan sympathizer in the family—page one stories and protracted coverage in the media, politicians holding forth, bristling with the assumption that the allegation was probably true. Carter, Clinton, and Gore would have been judged unfit for public service, and their careers would have ended long before they reached national office.

Maybe there are other explanations for the silence about Fred Trump, beginning with shame, a deep embarrassment that the Klan has lasted so long and spread throughout the country, including New York. Perhaps it was the hope that the son would turn away from the spectre of a man who had been arrested at a Klan riot. Maybe it was the well-meaning but naïve belief that Donald Trump could not win the election.

Now he inhabits the White House. Let us hope that the country’s media and political leadership recover their usual probing interest in the President’s background, his motives, and his veracity. The future of the Republic may depend on it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-family-history-donald-fred-and-the-ku-klux_us_588e549de4b0cd25e4904a3f

conservatives will argue that racism skips a generation

Liberal proof Trump is racist, ignoring the hear say, his father was arrested on memorial day in queens 90 years ago, Klansmen were also arrested.

Liberals will argue that racism is hereditary.

Were you hiding in a cave since The May 2011 annual White House correspondents dinner or are you that fucking retarded? Go back to your coloring book, racist. Adults are talking here.

And yet you resort to name calling. "Fucking Retarded" is a pretty immature term in my personal opinion.

rssesq

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICB_kA4mBA8

PJ_Soul

PJPOWER said:

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Go Beavers said:

tbergs said:

my2hands said:

White House: We are officially putting Iran "on notice"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/michael-flynn-condemns-iran-actions/index.html

I like how every time they put out a statement about some policy or stance, they make sure to either include that Obama did the same thing or criticize as doing nothing. He cannot get past his feelings of inadequacy.

What's also interesting is that trump supporters do the exact thing (see amt for references).

Yep, that's the Trump defense for everything now. "Look, look, see, look, A-ha! Obama did it, too!" Then hide behind the guise of "we're just trying to point out hypocrisy." Speaking of playing that game...

Obama executive orders: "What! What is he doing? Such an abuse of power! Get him outta there! Impeach! IMPEACH!"
Trump executive orders: "Finally, someone is getting shit done!"

While the differences between the two are glaring. One did it responsibly and with care to minimize negative effects on people (and mostly for positive gain for people), while the other does it completely irresponsibly and recklessly in a way that directly harms many people. Apples and oranges. It's absurd that people try to compare the two in any way, honestly. I haven't seen a single instance where the comparison between Obama and Trump is valid.

Apples and oranges and multiple perspectives.
https://youtu.be/qw6tjBxvIPo

Right.... confirms that they're not comparable. Nobody ever said that Obama never deported anyone. What Obama did is nothing like what Trump is now doing, nor is how he did it. Though I'm not sure if that is the point you are trying to make... I actually don't know what point you are trying to make at all. Can you be more explicit, if you do indeed have a point? I actually thought we were talking about executive orders, and then you post this video about deportations during Obama's term. Maybe you're trying to show us how Obama was far more responsible about immigration/deportations than Trump is being?

PJPOWER

PJ_Soul said:

PJPOWER said:

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Go Beavers said:

tbergs said:

my2hands said:

White House: We are officially putting Iran "on notice"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/michael-flynn-condemns-iran-actions/index.html

I like how every time they put out a statement about some policy or stance, they make sure to either include that Obama did the same thing or criticize as doing nothing. He cannot get past his feelings of inadequacy.

What's also interesting is that trump supporters do the exact thing (see amt for references).

Yep, that's the Trump defense for everything now. "Look, look, see, look, A-ha! Obama did it, too!" Then hide behind the guise of "we're just trying to point out hypocrisy." Speaking of playing that game...

Obama executive orders: "What! What is he doing? Such an abuse of power! Get him outta there! Impeach! IMPEACH!"
Trump executive orders: "Finally, someone is getting shit done!"

While the differences between the two are glaring. One did it responsibly and with care to minimize negative effects on people (and mostly for positive gain for people), while the other does it completely irresponsibly and recklessly in a way that directly harms many people. Apples and oranges. It's absurd that people try to compare the two in any way, honestly. I haven't seen a single instance where the comparison between Obama and Trump is valid.

Apples and oranges and multiple perspectives.
https://youtu.be/qw6tjBxvIPo

Right.... confirms that they're not comparable. Nobody ever said that Obama never deported anyone. What Obama did is nothing like what Trump is now doing, nor is how he did it. Though I'm not sure if that is the point you are trying to make... I actually don't know what point you are trying to make at all. Can you be more explicit, if you do indeed have a point? I actually thought we were talking about executive orders, and then you post this video about deportations during Obama's term. Maybe you're trying to show us how Obama was far more responsible about immigration/deportations than Trump is being?

Sorry, didn't realize you were speaking specifically about executive orders. I was thinking about comparisons on a more broad level...such as deporting illegal immigrants.