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my2hands said:

JC29856 said:

my2hands said:

JC29856 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

And the law that our resident professor cited was introduced by a republican congressman and passed by a republican house and senate as part of a trillion dollar tax and spending package.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acts_of_the_114th_United_States_Congress

I would hardly characterize this as "Obama's law." And once passed, did Obama's DHS immediately enforce it, leading to similar chaos that Trump's actions caused? False equivalency. The least you can do is own Trump's actions. You own it. And about those numbers, JC? Obama raised the number of immigrants allowed in in his final year of office from 70,000 to 110,000 probably because he saw the writing on the wall. This is just the beginning. You trump supporters own it.

Let's back up because I know not everyone has a stellar memory.
Yesterday, H2m asked for the visa ban law that Obama signed, as if one didn't exist or as if he is ignorant to the fact that one existed. I kindly provide the law directly from .gov.
Today H2M wakes up after late night peek-a-boo, makes his lemon water and Manuka honey drink, sits at his computer, checks the Trump thread, reads benjs posts, thinks it's a good idea, takes it to heart, then proceeds attempt to implement said benjs strategy. H2M then proceeds for the next 3 hours to study the law I posted composes his retort and comes up with this:

It's not "Obamas law" even thou nobody referred to it as "Obamas law" ignoring that the president has to sign bills in order for it to become law. Obama signed it, no veto, sign and drive.
Then he further tries to dissociate Obama from his signature on the visa ban law by claiming, it was
1. part of a larger more important bill package that needed to be passed
2. originated in the house / senate, furthermore noting that the house and Senate were opposition party republicans.

My question, if this was so un American to Obama, couldn't he issue an executive order doing away with the visa ban instead of having his DHS enforce it?

H2M failed to mention the 4 month Iraqi ban Obama also implemented in 2011.

Cheers...TAILTUCK

Do you support the current Muslim/refugee/immigration ban?

Do you support the propsed wall & deportations?

One word yes or no answers, please

I wouldn't call it a Muslim ban..see previous post a few pages back.
I have no problem with a temporary ban issued by a new administration, in order for it them to work thru a more permanent solution whatever it may be, extreme vetting etc. I do have a problem with trumps implemention and preparedness dealing with those en route or within 72 hours of travel.
I'm am totally against ILLEGAL immigration.
I have no problem with a proposed wall, it worked for Israel and we paid for that one so why not. Without knowing the details I can only say I'm not against a wall. I'll reserve judgement on the wall until I know the particulars.
I'm all for the continuance of Obamas record breaking deportations of ILLEGAL immigrants.
Trust the process.

So that is a yes, yes, and yes. I appreciate you taking a clear cut position.

But, you clearly told me in the Podesta emails thread that you were voting for Jill Stein??? I'm having a really hard time believing a Jill Stein voter would support those positions???

So which time you were lying, then or now?

my2hands said:

Look at all the right wing snowflakes getting triggered... by the truth

ledvedderman said:

InHiding80 said:

my2hands said:

Look at all the right wing snowflakes getting triggered... by the truth

You could tell them that the earth is round after Trump says it's flat and they'd say, "Nuh uh! You're a libtard snowflake cuck, Derp!" At least most Obama supporters don't agree with everything he does and says. Trump could say that Charlize Theron and Rachel McAdams are ugly and they'd agree in unison. They're that brainwashed.

Rachel Mcledvedderman has an awesome ring to it. She will be mine. Oh yes, she will be mine.