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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    JC29856 said:

    Here are the numbers behind trumps reinstatement and expansion of Obamas immigrant visa freeze:
    First 24 hrs
    109 were denied entry upon arrival.
    173 were denied to board incoming flights.
    Total travelers affected 375

    That's 375 to many !!!!!
    Not really. Obviously something was flagged on them under further scrutiny. Good. I'm sure it's getting sorted out and entry may/may not be granted at a later date.

    Latest tweet Somebody with aptitude and conviction should buy the FAKE NEWS and failing @nytimes and either run it correctly or let it fold with dignity! Our country needs strong borders and extreme vetting, NOW. Look what is happening all over Europe and, indeed, the world - a horrible mess!

    Wrong.

    Also, Trump is wrong, or a liar, nytimes is doing well and is growing in response to Trump's moronic statements.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,770

    JC29856 said:

    Here are the numbers behind trumps reinstatement and expansion of Obamas immigrant visa freeze:
    First 24 hrs
    109 were denied entry upon arrival.
    173 were denied to board incoming flights.
    Total travelers affected 375

    That's 375 to many !!!!!
    Not really. Obviously something was flagged on them under further scrutiny. Good. I'm sure it's getting sorted out and entry may/may not be granted at a later date.

    Latest tweet Somebody with aptitude and conviction should buy the FAKE NEWS and failing @nytimes and either run it correctly or let it fold with dignity! Our country needs strong borders and extreme vetting, NOW. Look what is happening all over Europe and, indeed, the world - a horrible mess!

    Is there a way I can block you or you block me I really don't want to read your posts anymore
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • “It’s not a Muslim ban, but we were totally prepared,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office. “You see it at the airports, you see it all over. It’s working out very nicely, and we’re going to have a very, very strict ban, and we’re going to have extreme vetting, which we should have had in this country for many years.”
    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/judge-halts-deportations-as-refugee-ban-causes-worldwide-furor/ar-AAmmjR0?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartanntp
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Anybody that supports the agenda of the 1st week of Trump needs to get a swastika tattoo and brush up on their German

    Resist. Coexist.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    I fucking hate Illinois Nazi's
  • benjs said:

    Woa! Woa! Woa! Because that's what I do. I print my name, I sign my name. And then when, I sing the pledge of allegiance. Because going to a wedding and entering a country are the same. Are you usually this misinformed? Or just hateful? Be honest.

    Halifax, I mean this honestly: treating people who feel differently than you this poorly is not productive to showing them why they shouldn't. This goes for the Trump debates, but also any other topic in life, and there are a few prerequisites which without them, you're going to have a hard time changing minds

    1. Don't attack character. If someone calls me a Nazi sympathizer and I'm not, that person's credibility is lost in my eyes, because I feel they fallaciously make conclusions.
    2. Don't make a battle out of a debate. If both of your objectives are truth and not war, then exposed knowledge which adds to a pile of data on which to pass judgment can only be a positive. Don't let winning be the objective, it must be discovery of the truth.
    3. Recognize the bias you have inherited, and that there is no shame in needing to consciously strip your opinions of the biases within you in order to reassess the truth of your opinions. It is not an attack to be reminded of bias.
    4. Just be respectful. We're living things here.

    I'm sorry if you find this preachy, but I've found these to be things absent by and large in this community. I've probably forgotten them from time to time too but am trying to be more cognizant of them.
    I agree. I think when trying to relate to people who figure Trump is awesome... try to connect on common ground and then slowly but surely try to have them see things differently.

    Allow me to demonstrate.

    Trump lovers... here is a song I think of when I think of you:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WHMWZx7hvJk

    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Latest tweet and it's true. Don't read it Jose.
    Christians in the Middle-East have been executed in large numbers. We cannot allow this horror to continue!
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Where is the ban list for white men with mental health issues? Oklahoma City... Columbine... Aurora... Newtown... Charleston...

    I guess we just keep the AR-15 express lane open for them...

    Wake the fuck up America
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    edited January 2017

    wow, styling suit. much better than this outfit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bafvfd41dWc
    Post edited by Kat on
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited January 2017

    benjs said:

    Woa! Woa! Woa! Because that's what I do. I print my name, I sign my name. And then when, I sing the pledge of allegiance. Because going to a wedding and entering a country are the same. Are you usually this misinformed? Or just hateful? Be honest.

    Halifax, I mean this honestly: treating people who feel differently than you this poorly is not productive to showing them why they shouldn't. This goes for the Trump debates, but also any other topic in life, and there are a few prerequisites which without them, you're going to have a hard time changing minds

    1. Don't attack character. If someone calls me a Nazi sympathizer and I'm not, that person's credibility is lost in my eyes, because I feel they fallaciously make conclusions.
    2. Don't make a battle out of a debate. If both of your objectives are truth and not war, then exposed knowledge which adds to a pile of data on which to pass judgment can only be a positive. Don't let winning be the objective, it must be discovery of the truth.
    3. Recognize the bias you have inherited, and that there is no shame in needing to consciously strip your opinions of the biases within you in order to reassess the truth of your opinions. It is not an attack to be reminded of bias.
    4. Just be respectful. We're living things here.

    I'm sorry if you find this preachy, but I've found these to be things absent by and large in this community. I've probably forgotten them from time to time too but am trying to be more cognizant of them.
    I agree. I think when trying to relate to people who figure Trump is awesome... try to connect on common ground and then slowly but surely try to have them see things differently.

    Allow me to demonstrate.

    Trump lovers... here is a song I think of when I think of you:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WHMWZx7hvJk

    "Trump lovers" and those that "figure trump is awesome", please raise your hand.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited January 2017
    JC29856 said:

    benjs said:

    Woa! Woa! Woa! Because that's what I do. I print my name, I sign my name. And then when, I sing the pledge of allegiance. Because going to a wedding and entering a country are the same. Are you usually this misinformed? Or just hateful? Be honest.

    Halifax, I mean this honestly: treating people who feel differently than you this poorly is not productive to showing them why they shouldn't. This goes for the Trump debates, but also any other topic in life, and there are a few prerequisites which without them, you're going to have a hard time changing minds

    1. Don't attack character. If someone calls me a Nazi sympathizer and I'm not, that person's credibility is lost in my eyes, because I feel they fallaciously make conclusions.
    2. Don't make a battle out of a debate. If both of your objectives are truth and not war, then exposed knowledge which adds to a pile of data on which to pass judgment can only be a positive. Don't let winning be the objective, it must be discovery of the truth.
    3. Recognize the bias you have inherited, and that there is no shame in needing to consciously strip your opinions of the biases within you in order to reassess the truth of your opinions. It is not an attack to be reminded of bias.
    4. Just be respectful. We're living things here.

    I'm sorry if you find this preachy, but I've found these to be things absent by and large in this community. I've probably forgotten them from time to time too but am trying to be more cognizant of them.
    I agree. I think when trying to relate to people who figure Trump is awesome... try to connect on common ground and then slowly but surely try to have them see things differently.

    Allow me to demonstrate.

    Trump lovers... here is a song I think of when I think of you:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WHMWZx7hvJk

    "Trump lovers" and those that "figure trump is awesome", please raise your hand.
    As BS alluded to... the Trump lovers with remote levels of intelligence worship Trump secretly. Openly stating you really dig Trump is tantamount to coming out and saying something like, "Hitler wasn't all bad." It's just not going to go over very well at all socially.

    There's only a few Trump supporters around here that have come out of the closet to cheer on their champion. That's why I posted that song for them- to brighten up their day and find some common ground with some music I think they'd like.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • ^^^
    #silent majorities matter

    good catchy song though, thanks for that
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Look how concerned the media is for this returning immigrant and his child. So very concerned, especially about the very young tired and weary child.

    Sure. As you say Herr Goering.
    I thought you said uncle...
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    my2hands said:

    Where is the ban list for white men with mental health issues? Oklahoma City... Columbine... Aurora... Newtown... Charleston...

    I guess we just keep the AR-15 express lane open for them...

    Wake the fuck up America

    Yes sir, home grown terrorism perpetrated by WMA.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    benjs said:

    Woa! Woa! Woa! Because that's what I do. I print my name, I sign my name. And then when, I sing the pledge of allegiance. Because going to a wedding and entering a country are the same. Are you usually this misinformed? Or just hateful? Be honest.

    Halifax, I mean this honestly: treating people who feel differently than you this poorly is not productive to showing them why they shouldn't. This goes for the Trump debates, but also any other topic in life, and there are a few prerequisites which without them, you're going to have a hard time changing minds

    1. Don't attack character. If someone calls me a Nazi sympathizer and I'm not, that person's credibility is lost in my eyes, because I feel they fallaciously make conclusions.
    2. Don't make a battle out of a debate. If both of your objectives are truth and not war, then exposed knowledge which adds to a pile of data on which to pass judgment can only be a positive. Don't let winning be the objective, it must be discovery of the truth.
    3. Recognize the bias you have inherited, and that there is no shame in needing to consciously strip your opinions of the biases within you in order to reassess the truth of your opinions. It is not an attack to be reminded of bias.
    4. Just be respectful. We're living things here.

    I'm sorry if you find this preachy, but I've found these to be things absent by and large in this community. I've probably forgotten them from time to time too but am trying to be more cognizant of them.
    I realize you are trying to help, and that's good but I don't think you have been paying attention. You are missing more than half of the equation.

    I personally appreciate Halifax for calling out the bullshit when he sees it. I have learned a lot.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    JC29856 said:

    benjs said:

    Woa! Woa! Woa! Because that's what I do. I print my name, I sign my name. And then when, I sing the pledge of allegiance. Because going to a wedding and entering a country are the same. Are you usually this misinformed? Or just hateful? Be honest.

    Halifax, I mean this honestly: treating people who feel differently than you this poorly is not productive to showing them why they shouldn't. This goes for the Trump debates, but also any other topic in life, and there are a few prerequisites which without them, you're going to have a hard time changing minds

    1. Don't attack character. If someone calls me a Nazi sympathizer and I'm not, that person's credibility is lost in my eyes, because I feel they fallaciously make conclusions.
    2. Don't make a battle out of a debate. If both of your objectives are truth and not war, then exposed knowledge which adds to a pile of data on which to pass judgment can only be a positive. Don't let winning be the objective, it must be discovery of the truth.
    3. Recognize the bias you have inherited, and that there is no shame in needing to consciously strip your opinions of the biases within you in order to reassess the truth of your opinions. It is not an attack to be reminded of bias.
    4. Just be respectful. We're living things here.

    I'm sorry if you find this preachy, but I've found these to be things absent by and large in this community. I've probably forgotten them from time to time too but am trying to be more cognizant of them.
    I agree. I think when trying to relate to people who figure Trump is awesome... try to connect on common ground and then slowly but surely try to have them see things differently.

    Allow me to demonstrate.

    Trump lovers... here is a song I think of when I think of you:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WHMWZx7hvJk

    "Trump lovers" and those that "figure trump is awesome", please raise your hand.
    As BS alluded to... the Trump lovers with remote levels of intelligence worship Trump secretly. Openly stating you really dig Trump is tantamount to coming out and saying something like, "Hitler wasn't all bad." It's just not going to go over very well at all socially.

    There's only a few Trump supporters around here that have come out of the closet to cheer on their champion. That's why I posted that song for them- to brighten up their day and find some common ground with some music I think they'd like.
    I like where your head is at on this.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    my2hands said:

    Where is the ban list for white men with mental health issues? Oklahoma City... Columbine... Aurora... Newtown... Charleston...

    I guess we just keep the AR-15 express lane open for them...

    Wake the fuck up America

    been thinking the same thing. NRA is a terrorist organization. Domestic kind. but the same. they arm the irrational and crazy.
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