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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    JC29856 said:

    Look how concerned the media is for this returning immigrant and his child. So very concerned, especially about the very young tired and weary child.

    Sure. As you say Herr Goering.
    I thought you said uncle...
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,615
    JC29856 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    JC29856 said:

    Look how concerned the media is for this returning immigrant and his child. So very concerned, especially about the very young tired and weary child.

    Sure. As you say Herr Goering.
    I thought you said uncle...
    Drinking on AMT can be fun, but also risky. Review posts Sunday morning.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Go Beavers said:

    JC29856 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    JC29856 said:

    Look how concerned the media is for this returning immigrant and his child. So very concerned, especially about the very young tired and weary child.

    Sure. As you say Herr Goering.
    I thought you said uncle...
    Drinking on AMT can be fun, but also risky. Review posts Sunday morning.
    Me or you? Which posts would you like sobriety checked? Why wait
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    2011 Iraqi 6 month ban

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/07/13/world/middleeast/13baghdad.html



    As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays, two U.S. officials said. In 2011, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis were resettled as refugees in the U.S., half the number from the year before, State Department statistics show.
    This one is very sobering!
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,615
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    2011 Iraqi 6 month ban

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/07/13/world/middleeast/13baghdad.html



    As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays, two U.S. officials said. In 2011, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis were resettled as refugees in the U.S., half the number from the year before, State Department statistics show.
    This one is very sobering!
    We're calling Candy Finnigan for an intervention.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,770
    Good morning America land of the exclusive land of bigotry land of Bafoon Bafoon Bafoon's followers, there's a few here !!
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Here are the numbers behind trumps reinstatement and expansion of Obamas immigrant visa freeze:
    First 24 hrs
    109 were denied entry upon arrival.
    173 were denied to board incoming flights.
    Total travelers affected 375
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,770
    JC29856 said:

    Here are the numbers behind trumps reinstatement and expansion of Obamas immigrant visa freeze:
    First 24 hrs
    109 were denied entry upon arrival.
    173 were denied to board incoming flights.
    Total travelers affected 375

    That's 375 to many !!!!!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,770
    I'm hoping for a stroke to hit Bafoon please ASAP ! !
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    josevolution said:

    JC29856 said:

    Here are the numbers behind trumps reinstatement and expansion of Obamas immigrant visa freeze:
    First 24 hrs
    109 were denied entry upon arrival.
    173 were denied to board incoming flights.
    Total travelers affected 375

    That's 375 to many !!!!!
    I agree...in Trumps book time to get tough hate states Saudi Arabia is the largest funder of terrorism. Obviously he cannot include SA given our oil addiction.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Go Beavers said:

    JC29856 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    JC29856 said:

    Look how concerned the media is for this returning immigrant and his child. So very concerned, especially about the very young tired and weary child.

    Sure. As you say Herr Goering.
    I thought you said uncle...
    Drinking on AMT can be fun, but also risky. Review posts Sunday morning.
    always. :) im often surprised by the fact im ok with what ive posted under the influence. in veritas vino ;):)

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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Who here knew the author of the 7 country ban list was Barack Obama?

    Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan December 2015
    Libya, Somalia, Yemen February 2016

  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,770
    JC29856 said:

    Who here knew the author of the 7 country ban list was Barack Obama?

    Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan December 2015
    Libya, Somalia, Yemen February 2016

    Did he put it into effect at anytime during his 8 yrs ?
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    josevolution said:

    JC29856 said:

    Who here knew the author of the 7 country ban list was Barack Obama?

    Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan December 2015
    Libya, Somalia, Yemen February 2016

    Did he put it into effect at anytime during his 8 yrs ?
    Yes...review preceding pages.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,770
    JC29856 said:

    josevolution said:

    JC29856 said:

    Who here knew the author of the 7 country ban list was Barack Obama?

    Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan December 2015
    Libya, Somalia, Yemen February 2016

    Did he put it into effect at anytime during his 8 yrs ?
    Yes...review preceding pages.
    Were any travelers held @airports like yesterday ?
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,390
    edited January 2017
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Woa! Woa! Woa! Because that's what I do. I print my name, I sign my name. And then when, I sing the pledge of allegiance. Because going to a wedding and entering a country are the same. Are you usually this misinformed? Or just hateful? Be honest.

    Halifax, I mean this honestly: treating people who feel differently than you this poorly is not productive to showing them why they shouldn't. This goes for the Trump debates, but also any other topic in life, and there are a few prerequisites which without them, you're going to have a hard time changing minds

    1. Don't attack character. If someone calls me a Nazi sympathizer and I'm not, that person's credibility is lost in my eyes, because I feel they fallaciously make conclusions.
    2. Don't make a battle out of a debate. If both of your objectives are truth and not war, then exposed knowledge which adds to a pile of data on which to pass judgment can only be a positive. Don't let winning be the objective, it must be discovery of the truth.
    3. Recognize the bias you have inherited, and that there is no shame in needing to consciously strip your opinions of the biases within you in order to reassess the truth of your opinions. It is not an attack to be reminded of bias.
    4. Just be respectful. We're living things here.

    I'm sorry if you find this preachy, but I've found these to be things absent by and large in this community. I've probably forgotten them from time to time too but am trying to be more cognizant of them.
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  • Cliffy6745
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    Doctors being turned away

    https://www.propublica.org/article/cleveland-clinic-doctor-forced-to-leave-country-after-trump-order
  • Gern Blansten
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    Spicer is on George Stephanopolous' show blaming Obama for putting these people on "the list"
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    josevolution said:

    JC29856 said:

    Here are the numbers behind trumps reinstatement and expansion of Obamas immigrant visa freeze:
    First 24 hrs
    109 were denied entry upon arrival.
    173 were denied to board incoming flights.
    Total travelers affected 375

    That's 375 to many !!!!!
    Not really. Obviously something was flagged on them under further scrutiny. Good. I'm sure it's getting sorted out and entry may/may not be granted at a later date.

    Latest tweet Somebody with aptitude and conviction should buy the FAKE NEWS and failing @nytimes and either run it correctly or let it fold with dignity! Our country needs strong borders and extreme vetting, NOW. Look what is happening all over Europe and, indeed, the world - a horrible mess!
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    InHiding80 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    josevolution said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Did anyone here consider this day in history?
    Latest tweet Today, we remember the crew of the Space Shuttle Challenger, 31 years later. #NeverForget

    Are you kidding us dude there are people at airports being held for no reason at all this is a total lunacy from president Bafoon !
    There are millions of people coming to America that don't know the challenger disaster. Why?


    I really hate your freaking guts more than ever and virtually spit on your face.

    I take the guts part back, actually. You never had any in the first place. You are objective scum.
    You really don't like President Trump do you?
    Relax, he is one man.
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