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Proof!! He said so on his twitter!!JC29856 said:
https://twitter.com/trsprudence?lang=endignin said:
This coming from a guy who thinks a random dude on twitter is behind the Trump dossier among other things.JC29856 said:
yet not duped by alternative facts.HughFreakingDillon said:
I reacted to the first thing he posted, which was a clearly biased opinion piece, which is hardly digestible as truth. I've been looking into it a little deeper since then, and yes, it looks as if the original sentiment was true. further analysis is required. I hate that I have to read something, then research the political leanings of the author. nothing is just fucking news anymore. it's news with a slant.JC29856 said:
Didn't you see what happened here? Hysterical post after hysterical post, raid fire, then a topic emerges (obama and media) and the evidence doesn't fit the majority narrative, then everyone went to lunch. Phil Collins drum kit!BS44325 said:
Here are some unbiased facts for youHughFreakingDillon said:
oh please. a biased opinion piece. next.BS44325 said:
wouldHalifax2TheMax said:
I wonder how Unsung feels about federal jack booted thugs occupying his city? Maybe he's okay with it seeing how it'll be predominately minority occupied neighborhoods that'll be occupied?BS44325 said:
With the big difference being that Trump will not tolerate the carnage that is Chicago.Go Beavers said:
Yawn. Yup, he's just like Obama. Got it.BS44325 said:
He also has a pen and a phone.Go Beavers said:
You're just referring to what trump said about Chicago. But even in that single scenario, trump will interpret those as giving him permission to send "the feds". He will probably be told no, and then it what hapoens after that matters. You seem to be under the impression that trump is educated on anything about the federal government and is willing to respect the limits placed on it.BS44325 said:
No. It doesn't lead to multiple scenerios. The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act detail requirements and limitations for a federal government to intervene.Go Beavers said:
Which bring us to multiple scenarios of agencies and government employees not following our new dictators orders. What follows that, and what are the implications? The system runs on a certain level of faith and trust. Trump is effing with that and he has no clue whatsoever.BS44325 said:
Yes. The governor has to make the request. Think back to Katrina. Bush couldn't send troops until Governor Blanco made the official request.ledvedderman said:
No shit. I wonder what the chain of command is for something like that. Would Rahm or our piece of shit Governor Rauner have to make a request for the feds to step in?Go Beavers said:Jesus H, he just threatened to bring "the feds"?!
I am not surprised that most of you are unfamiliar with Obama's record on press freedom and the prosecution of journalists and whistleblowers but here's a little tasteHughFreakingDillon said:
when did he do that? did he refuse to answer their questions at pressers?BS44325 said:
Except nobody was concerned when Obama prosecuted members of the media or disparaged media sources on the right.PJ_Soul said:
Kat specifically brought up censorship OF THE MEDIA. Totally different, and EXTREMELY dangerous to everyone's freedom.BS44325 said:
C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.Kat said:When you google censorship of the media...
Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/opinion/sunday/if-donald-trump-targets-journalists-thank-obama.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Department_of_Justice_investigations_of_reporters
But I wouldn't be surprised if you brush this off as well. Press freedom was under assault and nobody made a peep.
You are the chief spreader of alternative facts. Always trying to muddy the waters and put doubt on real investigative journalism.
Sorry man, you're embarrassing yourself.
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As it should be. Nothing with the economy has changed and corporations should be making bold moves knowing they will be getting bigger tax breaks under Trump. It's not right now that we need to be thinking about, it's down the road when the bloat gets close to bursting. Hopefully, someone in this administration is considering the impact of these decisions 4 - 8 years from now.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow Jones is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/It's a hopeless situation...0 -
agreed, there is nothing wrong with calling journalists out if necessary, but trump is fucking lying about cnn being fake news. trump trashed fox news during the election, now he's praising them. his memory is that of a fucking gerbil.PJ_Soul said:
He trashed Fox news for their tactics. I applauded him for that, and it isn't even close to comparable to what Trump is doing. I feel like Professor BS has made the decision to not acknowledge the difference between right and wrong, facts and non-facts, news and fake news, or news vs propaganda.HughFreakingDillon said:
when did he do that? did he refuse to answer their questions at pressers?BS44325 said:
Except nobody was concerned when Obama prosecuted members of the media or disparaged media sources on the right.PJ_Soul said:
Kat specifically brought up censorship OF THE MEDIA. Totally different, and EXTREMELY dangerous to everyone's freedom.BS44325 said:
C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.Kat said:When you google censorship of the media...
Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Um...wouldn't corporations making bold moves be a prime example of the economy changing? What aspect are you referring to?tbergs said:
As it should be. Nothing with the economy has changed and corporations should be making bold moves knowing they will be getting bigger tax breaks under Trump. It's not right now that we need to be thinking about, it's down the road when the bloat gets close to bursting. Hopefully, someone in this administration is considering the impact of these decisions 4 - 8 years from now.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow Jones is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/0 -
It began with Bush banning the press from recording the bodies returning from Iraq at Andrews, requiring the press to be pooled and their dispatches reviewed and authorized by the military prior to dissemination from what they were allowed to "see", the mass classification of documents as classified or secret without formal review of being necessary and the blatant disregard of record keeping with the wholesale elimination of 22 million emails. Don't act like it started with the black guy. Bush and Cheney sold this nation's soul to the devil and Trump is cashing in. And Obama took advantage but still managed to remain "ethical" to some degree.BS44325 said:
Here are some unbiased facts for youHughFreakingDillon said:
oh please. a biased opinion piece. next.BS44325 said:
wouldHalifax2TheMax said:
I wonder how Unsung feels about federal jack booted thugs occupying his city? Maybe he's okay with it seeing how it'll be predominately minority occupied neighborhoods that'll be occupied?BS44325 said:
With the big difference being that Trump will not tolerate the carnage that is Chicago.Go Beavers said:
Yawn. Yup, he's just like Obama. Got it.BS44325 said:
He also has a pen and a phone.Go Beavers said:
You're just referring to what trump said about Chicago. But even in that single scenario, trump will interpret those as giving him permission to send "the feds". He will probably be told no, and then it what hapoens after that matters. You seem to be under the impression that trump is educated on anything about the federal government and is willing to respect the limits placed on it.BS44325 said:
No. It doesn't lead to multiple scenerios. The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act detail requirements and limitations for a federal government to intervene.Go Beavers said:
Which bring us to multiple scenarios of agencies and government employees not following our new dictators orders. What follows that, and what are the implications? The system runs on a certain level of faith and trust. Trump is effing with that and he has no clue whatsoever.BS44325 said:
Yes. The governor has to make the request. Think back to Katrina. Bush couldn't send troops until Governor Blanco made the official request.ledvedderman said:
No shit. I wonder what the chain of command is for something like that. Would Rahm or our piece of shit Governor Rauner have to make a request for the feds to step in?Go Beavers said:Jesus H, he just threatened to bring "the feds"?!
I am not surprised that most of you are unfamiliar with Obama's record on press freedom and the prosecution of journalists and whistleblowers but here's a little tasteHughFreakingDillon said:
when did he do that? did he refuse to answer their questions at pressers?BS44325 said:
Except nobody was concerned when Obama prosecuted members of the media or disparaged media sources on the right.PJ_Soul said:
Kat specifically brought up censorship OF THE MEDIA. Totally different, and EXTREMELY dangerous to everyone's freedom.BS44325 said:
C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.Kat said:When you google censorship of the media...
Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/opinion/sunday/if-donald-trump-targets-journalists-thank-obama.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Department_of_Justice_investigations_of_reporters
But I wouldn't be surprised if you brush this off as well. Press freedom was under assault and nobody made a peep.
Again, is there anything we don't know about Obama's administration because of his persecution of the press and whistleblowers?
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"they will pay for it....we'll pay for it first, but they'll pay for it eventually".dimitrispearljam said:i guess u didmt want yopur taxes goes to obama care..now will go to build the wall in mexico boarders..hahahahah
sure, Chump, sure they will. just send them an invoice for $30 billion and if they don't pay, get a collection agency after them.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
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dont forget his piss story was verified by other reporters and was circulated for months!dignin said:
Proof!! He said so on his twitter!!JC29856 said:
https://twitter.com/trsprudence?lang=endignin said:
This coming from a guy who thinks a random dude on twitter is behind the Trump dossier among other things.JC29856 said:
yet not duped by alternative facts.HughFreakingDillon said:
I reacted to the first thing he posted, which was a clearly biased opinion piece, which is hardly digestible as truth. I've been looking into it a little deeper since then, and yes, it looks as if the original sentiment was true. further analysis is required. I hate that I have to read something, then research the political leanings of the author. nothing is just fucking news anymore. it's news with a slant.JC29856 said:
Didn't you see what happened here? Hysterical post after hysterical post, raid fire, then a topic emerges (obama and media) and the evidence doesn't fit the majority narrative, then everyone went to lunch. Phil Collins drum kit!BS44325 said:
Here are some unbiased facts for youHughFreakingDillon said:
oh please. a biased opinion piece. next.BS44325 said:
wouldHalifax2TheMax said:
I wonder how Unsung feels about federal jack booted thugs occupying his city? Maybe he's okay with it seeing how it'll be predominately minority occupied neighborhoods that'll be occupied?BS44325 said:
With the big difference being that Trump will not tolerate the carnage that is Chicago.Go Beavers said:
Yawn. Yup, he's just like Obama. Got it.BS44325 said:
He also has a pen and a phone.Go Beavers said:
You're just referring to what trump said about Chicago. But even in that single scenario, trump will interpret those as giving him permission to send "the feds". He will probably be told no, and then it what hapoens after that matters. You seem to be under the impression that trump is educated on anything about the federal government and is willing to respect the limits placed on it.BS44325 said:
No. It doesn't lead to multiple scenerios. The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act detail requirements and limitations for a federal government to intervene.Go Beavers said:
Which bring us to multiple scenarios of agencies and government employees not following our new dictators orders. What follows that, and what are the implications? The system runs on a certain level of faith and trust. Trump is effing with that and he has no clue whatsoever.BS44325 said:
Yes. The governor has to make the request. Think back to Katrina. Bush couldn't send troops until Governor Blanco made the official request.ledvedderman said:
No shit. I wonder what the chain of command is for something like that. Would Rahm or our piece of shit Governor Rauner have to make a request for the feds to step in?Go Beavers said:Jesus H, he just threatened to bring "the feds"?!
I am not surprised that most of you are unfamiliar with Obama's record on press freedom and the prosecution of journalists and whistleblowers but here's a little tasteHughFreakingDillon said:
when did he do that? did he refuse to answer their questions at pressers?BS44325 said:
Except nobody was concerned when Obama prosecuted members of the media or disparaged media sources on the right.PJ_Soul said:
Kat specifically brought up censorship OF THE MEDIA. Totally different, and EXTREMELY dangerous to everyone's freedom.BS44325 said:
C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.Kat said:When you google censorship of the media...
Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/opinion/sunday/if-donald-trump-targets-journalists-thank-obama.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Department_of_Justice_investigations_of_reporters
But I wouldn't be surprised if you brush this off as well. Press freedom was under assault and nobody made a peep.
You are the chief spreader of alternative facts. Always trying to muddy the waters and put doubt on real investigative journalism.
Sorry man, you're embarrassing yourself.
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its petty thou like crowd size and viewership. like climate change, its a belief, not a lie.0 -
"Tolerance"
https://youtu.be/rxbznGpN2n4 0 -
the famous set the girls hair on fire video... was the pyro identified yet?PJPOWER said:"Tolerance"
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Obama kept the DOW low?PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!0 -
Ummmm, the Pentagon is now trolling the President? National parks are one thing, but this is kinda scary, no?
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That's what it's starting to look like...my2hands said:
Obama kept the DOW low?PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!0 -
You mean kept the gains under control to avoid massive collapse by not cutting huge tax breaks to the rich and big business? Rich selfish people every where are celebrating their cash cow.PJPOWER said:
That's what it's starting to look like...my2hands said:
Obama kept the DOW low?PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Exactly. And wait til all the rich fuckers cash out their investments conveniently before it crashes. We'll all see our IRA's, 401(k)'s, and everything else crumble to the ground while Donald and his Goldman Sachs buddies cash the fuck in. But I'm sure PJPOWER will find a way to spin that toward the Trump-doing-good-things rhetoric.dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
I'm not a rich selfish person, but I am definitely happy with my investments today!0
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Today... but what about when the bubble bursts?PJPOWER said:I'm not a rich selfish person, but I am definitely happy with my investments today!
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Then I will buy buy buy! Sell high, buy low!0
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Exactly how Trump and his CEO filled cabinet will run the country. Short term gain and profit, leading to long-term disaster. His followers ignore history and can't see through their shortsightedness.HesCalledDyer said:
Exactly. And wait til all the rich fuckers cash out their investments conveniently before it crashes. We'll all see our IRA's, 401(k)'s, and everything else crumble to the ground while Donald and his Goldman Sachs buddies cash the fuck in. But I'm sure PJPOWER will find a way to spin that toward the Trump-doing-good-things rhetoric.dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
They will do the same to the environment.0 -
No, you will lose all your current investments is what you'll do. Because you won't have secret insider info on when to sell. And you won't have money to buy, buy, buy! Did you not pay attention to the Reagan and Dubya administrations?PJPOWER said:Then I will buy buy buy! Sell high, buy low!
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