Should Betsy DeVos be confirmed as Secretary of Education?

vaggar99
vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
edited January 2017 in A Moving Train

Should Betsy DeVos be confirmed as Secretary of Education? 62 votes

Yes
8%
bucballRiotZactabrilobuck502000riley540 5 votes
No
91%
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    No
    my ears say no
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    No
    This whole administration is one big 'NO!'
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  • CarryTheZero
    CarryTheZero Posts: 3,477
    No
    No! She has no experience in education and as a public school teacher that's a little maddening. She'll make policy having never been in a classroom?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    No
    Hell no
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,420
    No
    OOOOOH HELL NO
  • oceaninmyeyes
    oceaninmyeyes Posts: 4,646
    No
    At the march on Saturday I got to speak with a couple of recent Michigan graduates. They said she has ruined education in Michigan.
    And the sun it may be shining . . . but there's an ocean in my eyes
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    No
    ... but she donated $200 million to trump!
  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    No
    oceaninmyeyes said:

    At the march on Saturday I got to speak with a couple of recent Michigan graduates. They said she has ruined education in Michigan.

    I have a friend from Michigan and she said the same thing. She also said most people in Michigan hate her and her family - her brother is the guy who founded Blackwater and she married into the Amway (pyramid scheme) fortune. The fact that she and her children never attended public schools is also troubling.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    No
    Everything about her is troubling!!
  • oceaninmyeyes
    oceaninmyeyes Posts: 4,646
    No
    Enkidu said:

    oceaninmyeyes said:

    At the march on Saturday I got to speak with a couple of recent Michigan graduates. They said she has ruined education in Michigan.

    I have a friend from Michigan and she said the same thing. She also said most people in Michigan hate her and her family - her brother is the guy who founded Blackwater and she married into the Amway (pyramid scheme) fortune. The fact that she and her children never attended public schools is also troubling.
    I watched her confirmation hearings. She didn't know the difference between the growth and proficiency metrics. Having volunteered on a school committee, I could have answered that question, and I am in no way qualified to run the dept of education. That and her response about guns in schools to prevent grizzly bear attacks pretty much convinced me that this job is beyond her capability. Oh the Michigan grads assured me they had not had a bear attack during their years in school. :rofl:
    And the sun it may be shining . . . but there's an ocean in my eyes
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    The better question should be why is there an unconstitutional federal dept of education? That is a state issue.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    edited January 2017
    No
    unsung said:

    The better question should be why is there an unconstitutional federal dept of education? That is a state issue.

    Maybe it's meant to somehow help kids who are disadvantaged simply because they happen to live in a state with a shitty education system? Like a state that decides to teach creationism and make teaching evolution voluntary? Shit like that. If anything SHOULD be run federally, it's education. I hate that education is still largely handled on the state/provincial level. It makes no sense. There should be NATIONAL standards for education so that kids are all on equal footing.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    No
    unsung said:

    The better question should be why is there an unconstitutional federal dept of education? That is a state issue.

    Overlords be lordin' over, that's just what they do!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,098
    No
    no
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    No
    95% no. 100% sure she'll still be confirmed. Fuck President* Trump.
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    The better question should be why is there an unconstitutional federal dept of education? That is a state issue.

    Maybe it's meant to somehow help kids who are disadvantaged simply because they happen to live in a state with a shitty education system? Like a state that decides to teach creationism and make teaching evolution voluntary? Shit like that. If anything SHOULD be run federally, it's education. I hate that education is still largely handled on the state/provincial level. It makes no sense. There should be NATIONAL standards for education so that kids are all on equal footing.
    Yeah, because we've had a federal agency since 1980, and they've done NOTHING to improve education in any state. At all. Period. North, south, east, or west -- the US Department of Education could disappear tomorrow and not a single teacher or child across the land would notice.
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    No
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=im_5QdHp04E
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    No
    This is a problem wherever education is a topic. The people in charge of education have zero, as in none, experience with the job...
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    No
    I would sincerely like to hear why a person voted yes on this. Is it because of party status quo? You think she would do a good job because of x?

    Please leave a comment as I am very curious.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    No
    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    The better question should be why is there an unconstitutional federal dept of education? That is a state issue.

    Maybe it's meant to somehow help kids who are disadvantaged simply because they happen to live in a state with a shitty education system? Like a state that decides to teach creationism and make teaching evolution voluntary? Shit like that. If anything SHOULD be run federally, it's education. I hate that education is still largely handled on the state/provincial level. It makes no sense. There should be NATIONAL standards for education so that kids are all on equal footing.
    Teaching kids is like your fingers on your hand. All are different. Some people are meant to sweep streets and others are meant to become doctors. Should they all have the same chances? Yes. Should they all be taught the same? No.

    If you have a learning disability then you should be in a classroom that can accommodate that. That child should be steered in the direction to succeed and not to fail.

    So no, I don't think schooling should be universal.

    You bring up an interesting point about national though. I attended 3 different schools in 3rd grade, 2 for fith grade and some books we were reading I did the year before. In another school we read books that I knew older kids were reading. So something can be said for teaching the same curriculum nationally.

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