Should Betsy DeVos be confirmed as Secretary of Education?

Go Beavers

Jesus will be coming to a public school near you!

HughFreakingDillon

No

Go Beavers said:

Jesus will be coming to a public school near you!

can't wait. a jesus fish for every locker! no christian left behind! the next generation being taught that the earth is only 6000 years old! Yay!

unsung

Free said:

unsung said:

HesCalledDyer said:

unsung said:

Then ignore it and don't whine.

Do you wake up with headaches every morning from being so round-the-clock miserable?

I wake up everyday with the mission to improve my life, it is working well. I smile a lot, so should you.

I will continue to come here trying to show all of you that less is more.

It is tough, but we will get there.

But clearly... you could care less about kids in public schools.

In reality getting the federal government out of this and letting teachers actually use their skills to teach will give students a better chance of success.

unsung

Free said:

Lol, billionaire. That is considered a bad thing???

my2hands

No teaching experience and no experience actually working in an educational setting? No education degree? And she is in charge of the national school system? LOL

I'm glad she got through... she'll be a disaster that these morons will have to own.

How many days until the midterm election?

unsung

Go Beavers said:

Jesus will be coming to a public school near you!

In what way?

Jason P

The pendulum swings.

my2hands

mcgruff10 said:

my2hands said:

unsung said:

Then ignore it and don't whine.

Who's whining? Is that the new right wing word of the week? Lol

I think educators are working class heroes that should be applauded, and I just happen to value their opinion on this. That is why I asked specifically for their feedback.

My wife and I are educators and absolutely hate this pick. She has zero experience in public school; a lot of people are really afraid of what she is going to do.
this is why we do not like her as a candidate:
"A Michigan billionaire and major Republican donor, she has spent three decades using her wealth and political clout to advocate for alternatives to public schools, particularly taxpayer-funded vouchers to help parents pay tuition for private and religious schools. She also has advocated for a loosely regulated variety of charter schools."

I appreciate you and you're wifes contributions to society brother, im sure you guys are great teachers. thank you.

unsung

Boom!

HR899 has just been introduced to eliminated the Federal Dept of Education!

The Bill is one sentence long.

There, no Dept, no jobs for Betsy. Happy?

mcgruff10

No

my2hands said:

mcgruff10 said:

my2hands said:

unsung said:

Then ignore it and don't whine.

Who's whining? Is that the new right wing word of the week? Lol

I think educators are working class heroes that should be applauded, and I just happen to value their opinion on this. That is why I asked specifically for their feedback.

My wife and I are educators and absolutely hate this pick. She has zero experience in public school; a lot of people are really afraid of what she is going to do.
this is why we do not like her as a candidate:
"A Michigan billionaire and major Republican donor, she has spent three decades using her wealth and political clout to advocate for alternatives to public schools, particularly taxpayer-funded vouchers to help parents pay tuition for private and religious schools. She also has advocated for a loosely regulated variety of charter schools."

I appreciate you and you're wifes contributions to society brother, im sure you guys are great teachers. thank you.

Thanks bud!!

cottagesteeze

No

unsung said:

Boom!

HR899 has just been introduced to eliminated the Federal Dept of Education!

The Bill is one sentence long.

There, no Dept, no jobs for Betsy. Happy?

No, not at all. Some of us like education..

Go Beavers

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

Jesus will be coming to a public school near you!

In what way?

If you know any Christian fundamentalists, they have been quietly excited about trump being president, and of course many voted for him. They're excited, not because they see him as some sort of religious guy, but because they see his policies as a way of facilitating some sort of Christian uprising and God being able to make a presence on earth like never before. It's hard to describe as an outsider, and the fundamentalists are intentionally vague about it, but they are definately excited. It ties into trump's isolationalism and anti- globalism, and also less federal gov involvement in local/state affairs. They see these things as an enemy to their religion somehow. They are also strongly anti-Muslim. They see local control of schools as opening the door to having Christianity in the classroom and will push this through different "religious freedom" policies. You'll see much more of this being pushed very soon. Pence is totally on board with this stuff, and he's the fundamentalist main guy.

It's hard to watch individuals who believe this talk about it, because they're very passive aggressive. They claim to filled with the love of Jesus, but they're full bore buying into fear oriented beliefs where they're engaged in some mythological struggle of Christianity against everything else. They'll support policies that discriminate and will limit others freedoms because they think they're entitled by God. At the same time, they think they're doing good.

unsung

http://nypost.com/2017/02/05/the-war-on-betsy-devos-is-all-about-the-teachers-unions/

I am inclined to agree.

unsung

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

Jesus will be coming to a public school near you!

In what way?

If you know any Christian fundamentalists, they have been quietly excited about trump being president, and of course many voted for him. They're excited, not because they see him as some sort of religious guy, but because they see his policies as a way of facilitating some sort of Christian uprising and God being able to make a presence on earth like never before. It's hard to describe as an outsider, and the fundamentalists are intentionally vague about it, but they are definately excited. It ties into trump's isolationalism and anti- globalism, and also less federal gov involvement in local/state affairs. They see these things as an enemy to their religion somehow. They are also strongly anti-Muslim. They see local control of schools as opening the door to having Christianity in the classroom and will push this through different "religious freedom" policies. You'll see much more of this being pushed very soon. Pence is totally on board with this stuff, and he's the fundamentalist main guy.

It's hard to watch individuals who believe this talk about it, because they're very passive aggressive. They claim to filled with the love of Jesus, but they're full bore buying into fear oriented beliefs where they're engaged in some mythological struggle of Christianity against everything else. They'll support policies that discriminate and will limit others freedoms because they think they're entitled by God. At the same time, they think they're doing good.

Well it seems like a far fetched chance that would happen, at least to me. But I could get on board with keeping religion out of public education. But only if it was all religion, not just Christianity.

Go Beavers

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

Jesus will be coming to a public school near you!

In what way?

If you know any Christian fundamentalists, they have been quietly excited about trump being president, and of course many voted for him. They're excited, not because they see him as some sort of religious guy, but because they see his policies as a way of facilitating some sort of Christian uprising and God being able to make a presence on earth like never before. It's hard to describe as an outsider, and the fundamentalists are intentionally vague about it, but they are definately excited. It ties into trump's isolationalism and anti- globalism, and also less federal gov involvement in local/state affairs. They see these things as an enemy to their religion somehow. They are also strongly anti-Muslim. They see local control of schools as opening the door to having Christianity in the classroom and will push this through different "religious freedom" policies. You'll see much more of this being pushed very soon. Pence is totally on board with this stuff, and he's the fundamentalist main guy.

It's hard to watch individuals who believe this talk about it, because they're very passive aggressive. They claim to filled with the love of Jesus, but they're full bore buying into fear oriented beliefs where they're engaged in some mythological struggle of Christianity against everything else. They'll support policies that discriminate and will limit others freedoms because they think they're entitled by God. At the same time, they think they're doing good.

Well it seems like a far fetched chance that would happen, at least to me. But I could get on board with keeping religion out of public education. But only if it was all religion, not just Christianity.

I hope it's far fetched, but I'm guessing first up will be school sanctioned "prayer time", incorporating creationism in the curriculum, and Bible based values and mission statements for schools. The fundamentalist have been preparing and waiting for this. They see it as their prayers being answered. And hey, you can't be wrong if God is on your side!

oftenreading

Religion, all religions, should not be the base or the reference point for public education. However, it's completely permissible to teach about religions, as long as you don't bias it for or against any particular religion.

HughFreakingDillon

No

unsung said:

http://nypost.com/2017/02/05/the-war-on-betsy-devos-is-all-about-the-teachers-unions/

I am inclined to agree.

I am inclinded to call bullshit.

unsung

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

Jesus will be coming to a public school near you!

In what way?

If you know any Christian fundamentalists, they have been quietly excited about trump being president, and of course many voted for him. They're excited, not because they see him as some sort of religious guy, but because they see his policies as a way of facilitating some sort of Christian uprising and God being able to make a presence on earth like never before. It's hard to describe as an outsider, and the fundamentalists are intentionally vague about it, but they are definately excited. It ties into trump's isolationalism and anti- globalism, and also less federal gov involvement in local/state affairs. They see these things as an enemy to their religion somehow. They are also strongly anti-Muslim. They see local control of schools as opening the door to having Christianity in the classroom and will push this through different "religious freedom" policies. You'll see much more of this being pushed very soon. Pence is totally on board with this stuff, and he's the fundamentalist main guy.

It's hard to watch individuals who believe this talk about it, because they're very passive aggressive. They claim to filled with the love of Jesus, but they're full bore buying into fear oriented beliefs where they're engaged in some mythological struggle of Christianity against everything else. They'll support policies that discriminate and will limit others freedoms because they think they're entitled by God. At the same time, they think they're doing good.

Well it seems like a far fetched chance that would happen, at least to me. But I could get on board with keeping religion out of public education. But only if it was all religion, not just Christianity.

I hope it's far fetched, but I'm guessing first up will be school sanctioned "prayer time", incorporating creationism in the curriculum, and Bible based values and mission statements for schools. The fundamentalist have been preparing and waiting for this. They see it as their prayers being answered. And hey, you can't be wrong if God is on your side!

Well I am not touching the God on side thing but I believe there should be a separation, but it must be for all religions. You can pray, you just can't do it on school property. I would be against teaching of any religion and that includes Islam. Nothing allowed on any of it.

unsung

oftenreading said:

Religion, all religions, should not be the base or the reference point for public education. However, it's completely permissible to teach about religions, as long as you don't bias it for or against any particular religion.

Good luck with that.

unsung

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/318310-gop-lawmaker-proposes-abolishing-department-of-education