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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Government sponsored killing. If they aren't dping it, who is? For arguments sake, as a compromise, the government decides it should not be associated with the DP. But it remains an acceptable form of punishment for only the worst crimes. Who takes it over? Is it contracted out? Do private businesses bid on who gets to do it? Should it be on the tax payers dime or the victims of the family, or the family of the person being executed?

    Or the government continues to use the DP but revises the standards. Maybe they only allow the DP to be used when there is nl,shadshad of a doubt that the person convicted actually did the crime. To ensure the wrong people aren't executed. Would you prefer that ovee entry system?
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  • tweedyfanjen
    tweedyfanjen Posts: 881
    We (SC) didn't even give Susan Smith the death penalty for killing her own kids.
    I'm through with screaming
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    tweedyfanjen said:

    We (SC) didn't even give Susan Smith the death penalty for killing her own kids.

    That was before I moved down here. But remember hearing about it and thinking it was odd that she didn't get the DP. Not only did she get to live, but got pregnant from a guard in prison.

    One thing this state does not lack is horrendous crimes. Susan Smith may be the only rival to dylan roof when it comes to heinous acts committed in this state since slavery.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Degeneratefk said:

    tweedyfanjen said:

    We (SC) didn't even give Susan Smith the death penalty for killing her own kids.

    That was before I moved down here. But remember hearing about it and thinking it was odd that she didn't get the DP. Not only did she get to live, but got pregnant from a guard in prison.

    One thing this state does not lack is horrendous crimes. Susan Smith may be the only rival to dylan roof when it comes to heinous acts committed in this state since slavery.
    I don't remember enough about the Smith case to comment but if she got pregnant in prison and a guard was the father then that's abuse, plain and simple. There is no way to excuse the guard's behaviour.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    oftenreading said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    tweedyfanjen said:

    We (SC) didn't even give Susan Smith the death penalty for killing her own kids.

    That was before I moved down here. But remember hearing about it and thinking it was odd that she didn't get the DP. Not only did she get to live, but got pregnant from a guard in prison.

    One thing this state does not lack is horrendous crimes. Susan Smith may be the only rival to dylan roof when it comes to heinous acts committed in this state since slavery.
    I don't remember enough about the Smith case to comment but if she got pregnant in prison and a guard was the father then that's abuse, plain and simple. There is no way to excuse the guard's behaviour.
    The guard abused his position of authority without question. Let's not forget the other person in that event- just merrily humping away after killing her two children that had become inconvenient to her.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    edited December 2016
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    oftenreading said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    tweedyfanjen said:

    We (SC) didn't even give Susan Smith the death penalty for killing her own kids.

    That was before I moved down here. But remember hearing about it and thinking it was odd that she didn't get the DP. Not only did she get to live, but got pregnant from a guard in prison.

    One thing this state does not lack is horrendous crimes. Susan Smith may be the only rival to dylan roof when it comes to heinous acts committed in this state since slavery.
    I don't remember enough about the Smith case to comment but if she got pregnant in prison and a guard was the father then that's abuse, plain and simple. There is no way to excuse the guard's behaviour.
    The guard abused his position of authority without question. Let's not forget the other person in that event- just merrily humping away after killing her two children that had become inconvenient to her.
    Are we sure about that? I have no idea in this case, but it's not like rape in prison is unknown. Or manipulation.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    oftenreading said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    tweedyfanjen said:

    We (SC) didn't even give Susan Smith the death penalty for killing her own kids.

    That was before I moved down here. But remember hearing about it and thinking it was odd that she didn't get the DP. Not only did she get to live, but got pregnant from a guard in prison.

    One thing this state does not lack is horrendous crimes. Susan Smith may be the only rival to dylan roof when it comes to heinous acts committed in this state since slavery.
    I don't remember enough about the Smith case to comment but if she got pregnant in prison and a guard was the father then that's abuse, plain and simple. There is no way to excuse the guard's behaviour.
    I don't think there was any abuse going on by the guard. They had an ongoing relationship. I'm sure Smith was using the guard more than the guard was using Smith. Everything was consensual from what I remembered.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    oftenreading said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    oftenreading said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    tweedyfanjen said:

    We (SC) didn't even give Susan Smith the death penalty for killing her own kids.

    That was before I moved down here. But remember hearing about it and thinking it was odd that she didn't get the DP. Not only did she get to live, but got pregnant from a guard in prison.

    One thing this state does not lack is horrendous crimes. Susan Smith may be the only rival to dylan roof when it comes to heinous acts committed in this state since slavery.
    I don't remember enough about the Smith case to comment but if she got pregnant in prison and a guard was the father then that's abuse, plain and simple. There is no way to excuse the guard's behaviour.
    The guard abused his position of authority without question. Let's not forget the other person in that event- just merrily humping away after killing her two children that had become inconvenient to her.
    Are we sure about that? I have no idea in this case, but it's not like rape in prison is unknown. Or manipulation.
    I think it's a pretty safe assumption. The fact that she murdered her children to bed another man makes me think she's far from a poor, little, abused waif that was completely taken advantage of by some goofball prison guard (not saying you said this... this qualifying statement is for Soul).

    Why... the f**k... would you want to have sex with a monster such as her? F**king idiot.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    See what I mean by South Carolina being a state with its fair share of morons:
    http://m.live5news.com/live5news/db_349195/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=UbF4epKJ
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Degeneratefk said:

    oftenreading said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    tweedyfanjen said:

    We (SC) didn't even give Susan Smith the death penalty for killing her own kids.

    That was before I moved down here. But remember hearing about it and thinking it was odd that she didn't get the DP. Not only did she get to live, but got pregnant from a guard in prison.

    One thing this state does not lack is horrendous crimes. Susan Smith may be the only rival to dylan roof when it comes to heinous acts committed in this state since slavery.
    I don't remember enough about the Smith case to comment but if she got pregnant in prison and a guard was the father then that's abuse, plain and simple. There is no way to excuse the guard's behaviour.
    I don't think there was any abuse going on by the guard. They had an ongoing relationship. I'm sure Smith was using the guard more than the guard was using Smith. Everything was consensual from what I remembered.
    Maybe she agreed, but the power differential between a prison guard and an inmate is such that it's never going to be a consensual relationship. You can't have a consensual relationship with someone who holds power over pretty much every aspect of your life.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    oftenreading said:


    Degeneratefk said:

    oftenreading said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    tweedyfanjen said:

    We (SC) didn't even give Susan Smith the death penalty for killing her own kids.

    That was before I moved down here. But remember hearing about it and thinking it was odd that she didn't get the DP. Not only did she get to live, but got pregnant from a guard in prison.

    One thing this state does not lack is horrendous crimes. Susan Smith may be the only rival to dylan roof when it comes to heinous acts committed in this state since slavery.
    I don't remember enough about the Smith case to comment but if she got pregnant in prison and a guard was the father then that's abuse, plain and simple. There is no way to excuse the guard's behaviour.
    I don't think there was any abuse going on by the guard. They had an ongoing relationship. I'm sure Smith was using the guard more than the guard was using Smith. Everything was consensual from what I remembered.
    Maybe she agreed, but the power differential between a prison guard and an inmate is such that it's never going to be a consensual relationship. You can't have a consensual relationship with someone who holds power over pretty much every aspect of your life.
    Maybe. And just maybe she was an eager and willing participant.

    Either way... who cares? She's hardly a victim. Hearing of her humping in prison is very distasteful news.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Doesn't matter if she was willing. Doesn't matter any more than if it was a doctor with a "willing"patient, or a teacher with a "wiling" student. The power differential is too great.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    oftenreading said:

    Doesn't matter if she was willing. Doesn't matter any more than if it was a doctor with a "willing"patient, or a teacher with a "wiling" student. The power differential is too great.

    Poor Susan Smith?
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    oftenreading said:

    Doesn't matter if she was willing. Doesn't matter any more than if it was a doctor with a "willing"patient, or a teacher with a "wiling" student. The power differential is too great.

    Poor Susan Smith?
    Read from my post whatever you wish. You're going to do that anyway. But maybe first consider whether that would be your opinion in another case of a woman getting pregnant while incarcerated.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    oftenreading said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    oftenreading said:

    Doesn't matter if she was willing. Doesn't matter any more than if it was a doctor with a "willing"patient, or a teacher with a "wiling" student. The power differential is too great.

    Poor Susan Smith?
    Read from my post whatever you wish. You're going to do that anyway. But maybe first consider whether that would be your opinion in another case of a woman getting pregnant while incarcerated.
    Key term: incarcerated. Hardly a school aged child or trusting patient which you tried to compare the child killer to.

    I agreed with you that the guard was completely out of line, but I'd be reaching if I agreed that Smith was placed in a position where she was manipulated by circumstances into compliance.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    oftenreading said:


    Degeneratefk said:

    oftenreading said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    tweedyfanjen said:

    We (SC) didn't even give Susan Smith the death penalty for killing her own kids.

    That was before I moved down here. But remember hearing about it and thinking it was odd that she didn't get the DP. Not only did she get to live, but got pregnant from a guard in prison.

    One thing this state does not lack is horrendous crimes. Susan Smith may be the only rival to dylan roof when it comes to heinous acts committed in this state since slavery.
    I don't remember enough about the Smith case to comment but if she got pregnant in prison and a guard was the father then that's abuse, plain and simple. There is no way to excuse the guard's behaviour.
    I don't think there was any abuse going on by the guard. They had an ongoing relationship. I'm sure Smith was using the guard more than the guard was using Smith. Everything was consensual from what I remembered.
    Maybe she agreed, but the power differential between a prison guard and an inmate is such that it's never going to be a consensual relationship. You can't have a consensual relationship with someone who holds power over pretty much every aspect of your life.
    I see your point but disagree. I don't remember the details and im too lazy to look it up. Are you suggesting that Smith couldn't say no? If anything, Smith had the control in the relagionship. She had nothing to lose. She's spending her life in prison. As opposed to the guard who had everything to lose. And eventually did.
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    edited December 2016
    Degeneratefk said:

    oftenreading said:


    Degeneratefk said:

    oftenreading said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    tweedyfanjen said:

    We (SC) didn't even give Susan Smith the death penalty for killing her own kids.

    That was before I moved down here. But remember hearing about it and thinking it was odd that she didn't get the DP. Not only did she get to live, but got pregnant from a guard in prison.

    One thing this state does not lack is horrendous crimes. Susan Smith may be the only rival to dylan roof when it comes to heinous acts committed in this state since slavery.
    I don't remember enough about the Smith case to comment but if she got pregnant in prison and a guard was the father then that's abuse, plain and simple. There is no way to excuse the guard's behaviour.
    I don't think there was any abuse going on by the guard. They had an ongoing relationship. I'm sure Smith was using the guard more than the guard was using Smith. Everything was consensual from what I remembered.
    Maybe she agreed, but the power differential between a prison guard and an inmate is such that it's never going to be a consensual relationship. You can't have a consensual relationship with someone who holds power over pretty much every aspect of your life.
    I see your point but disagree. I don't remember the details and im too lazy to look it up. Are you suggesting that Smith couldn't say no? If anything, Smith had the control in the relagionship. She had nothing to lose. She's spending her life in prison. As opposed to the guard who had everything to lose. And eventually did.
    She had nothing to lose?

    Guess you've never spent time in a prison.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    oftenreading said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    oftenreading said:


    Degeneratefk said:

    oftenreading said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    tweedyfanjen said:

    We (SC) didn't even give Susan Smith the death penalty for killing her own kids.

    That was before I moved down here. But remember hearing about it and thinking it was odd that she didn't get the DP. Not only did she get to live, but got pregnant from a guard in prison.

    One thing this state does not lack is horrendous crimes. Susan Smith may be the only rival to dylan roof when it comes to heinous acts committed in this state since slavery.
    I don't remember enough about the Smith case to comment but if she got pregnant in prison and a guard was the father then that's abuse, plain and simple. There is no way to excuse the guard's behaviour.
    I don't think there was any abuse going on by the guard. They had an ongoing relationship. I'm sure Smith was using the guard more than the guard was using Smith. Everything was consensual from what I remembered.
    Maybe she agreed, but the power differential between a prison guard and an inmate is such that it's never going to be a consensual relationship. You can't have a consensual relationship with someone who holds power over pretty much every aspect of your life.
    I see your point but disagree. I don't remember the details and im too lazy to look it up. Are you suggesting that Smith couldn't say no? If anything, Smith had the control in the relagionship. She had nothing to lose. She's spending her life in prison. As opposed to the guard who had everything to lose. And eventually did.
    She had nothing to lose?

    Guess you've never spent time in prison.
    Elaborate. She loses her TV privileges? Spends a week in solitary?
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Where is your cut off as far as the power balance goes? Is a first line supervisor over a employee to big of a power difference? What about a captain in the army with a private? Any position of power over a lover is too much?
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Degeneratefk said:

    oftenreading said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    oftenreading said:


    Degeneratefk said:

    oftenreading said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    tweedyfanjen said:

    We (SC) didn't even give Susan Smith the death penalty for killing her own kids.

    That was before I moved down here. But remember hearing about it and thinking it was odd that she didn't get the DP. Not only did she get to live, but got pregnant from a guard in prison.

    One thing this state does not lack is horrendous crimes. Susan Smith may be the only rival to dylan roof when it comes to heinous acts committed in this state since slavery.
    I don't remember enough about the Smith case to comment but if she got pregnant in prison and a guard was the father then that's abuse, plain and simple. There is no way to excuse the guard's behaviour.
    I don't think there was any abuse going on by the guard. They had an ongoing relationship. I'm sure Smith was using the guard more than the guard was using Smith. Everything was consensual from what I remembered.
    Maybe she agreed, but the power differential between a prison guard and an inmate is such that it's never going to be a consensual relationship. You can't have a consensual relationship with someone who holds power over pretty much every aspect of your life.
    I see your point but disagree. I don't remember the details and im too lazy to look it up. Are you suggesting that Smith couldn't say no? If anything, Smith had the control in the relagionship. She had nothing to lose. She's spending her life in prison. As opposed to the guard who had everything to lose. And eventually did.
    She had nothing to lose?

    Guess you've never spent time in prison.
    Elaborate. She loses her TV privileges? Spends a week in solitary?
    Sure, I could elaborate. I could post links about female inmates being raped, being watched showering or dressing, being denied toilet paper or sanitary products or put in solitary confinement if they refuse or attempt to report such actions on the parts of the guards. But it's a wasted exercise because to many of you guys on here these women are manipulative monsters who should have been killed anyway and are automatically at fault, so who cares what happens to them?
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