Election Stress Disorder

lukin2006 · October 2016

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:
I worry about O'Leary and his talk about joining politics. It's not because I don't like him (i neither like him nor dislike him I think... I liked him on The Dragon's Den I suppose). I just think that money is basically EVERYTHING to him. I wouldn't trust him to make decisions that are best for people because he would be blinded by dollar signs in any case where money/funding/profits are in play. Plus it really bugs me when these rich people just insert themselves in politics at the end of the road - at the top - without ever putting in the time and gaining the experience. That alone seems ultimately corrupt to me. It makes me think there should be a requirement to have served as an elected official before being allowed to run for top dog. O'Leary is just a sane Trump.
i couldn't stand that fucker on dragon's den, and he's a big reason brett left the show. he got tired of oleary basically treating the pitch people like worms. he looks down on everyone. don't make a deal, but don't tell someone who stupid their idea is or how they know nothing about economics.

but you are right, money is everything to him, and in politics, that is incredibly dangerous.
It's all for show man you know this.
Bretts company Canoe just merged (aquired) oleary funds and now they are business partners to the tune of $4 Billion.
Everything is about money with people in that business.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/kevin-oleary-funds-1.3272502

Remember having to much money on these boards seems to be a no no, unless your a Clinton or any POTUS.

PJfanwillneverleave1 · October 2016

^^^
I forgot to add the finer details.
“Kevin and I share some great history as Dragons on Dragons' Den that fostered a relationship leading to today. We’ve both successfully built our businesses by seeking out the best people and the best assets – I know that Canoe’s partners and employees are very excited by this transaction,” said W. Brett Wilson, Chairman, Canoe Financial –
http://www.canoefinancial.com/assets/pdfs/Canoe_Financial_to_Acquire_OLeary_Assets_Oct_15_2015.pdf

PJ_Soul · October 2016

Free said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

lukin2006 said:
Lol, at least your not suffering election stress ... it wouldn't be good if a Canadian is getting stressed out from the clown show in the states.
Lol, no, not stressed.... frustrated though, and annoyed. I really just can't wait for it to be over. I just pray that the extreme Hillary haters shut the fuck up along with everyone else.
If this doesn't sound like election stress disorder I don't know what would be.
But then again I am not a psychiatrist.
Pray that the extreme Hillary haters shut the fuck up along w/ everyone else?
Nope, no stress here.
And thank God Hillary haters Won't Shut the fuck up!

How would you know?

HughFreakingDillon · October 2016

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:
I worry about O'Leary and his talk about joining politics. It's not because I don't like him (i neither like him nor dislike him I think... I liked him on The Dragon's Den I suppose). I just think that money is basically EVERYTHING to him. I wouldn't trust him to make decisions that are best for people because he would be blinded by dollar signs in any case where money/funding/profits are in play. Plus it really bugs me when these rich people just insert themselves in politics at the end of the road - at the top - without ever putting in the time and gaining the experience. That alone seems ultimately corrupt to me. It makes me think there should be a requirement to have served as an elected official before being allowed to run for top dog. O'Leary is just a sane Trump.
i couldn't stand that fucker on dragon's den, and he's a big reason brett left the show. he got tired of oleary basically treating the pitch people like worms. he looks down on everyone. don't make a deal, but don't tell someone who stupid their idea is or how they know nothing about economics.

but you are right, money is everything to him, and in politics, that is incredibly dangerous.
It's all for show man you know this.
Bretts company Canoe just merged (aquired) oleary funds and now they are business partners to the tune of $4 Billion.
Everything is about money with people in that business.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/kevin-oleary-funds-1.3272502

he can do business with who he wants. Brett was outspoken about his distaste for how the contestants were treated, particularly by Oleary. Don't believe it if you wish.

PJ_Soul · October 2016

I think the obvious conclusion is that Brett didn't like how O'Leary treated the contestants and he doesn't give a flying fuck about that when it comes to business.

lukin2006 · October 2016

PJ_Soul said:
I think the obvious conclusion is that Brett didn't like how O'Leary treated the contestants and he doesn't give a flying fuck about that when it comes to business.

Good point...

lukin2006 · October 2016

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:
I worry about O'Leary and his talk about joining politics. It's not because I don't like him (i neither like him nor dislike him I think... I liked him on The Dragon's Den I suppose). I just think that money is basically EVERYTHING to him. I wouldn't trust him to make decisions that are best for people because he would be blinded by dollar signs in any case where money/funding/profits are in play. Plus it really bugs me when these rich people just insert themselves in politics at the end of the road - at the top - without ever putting in the time and gaining the experience. That alone seems ultimately corrupt to me. It makes me think there should be a requirement to have served as an elected official before being allowed to run for top dog. O'Leary is just a sane Trump.
i couldn't stand that fucker on dragon's den, and he's a big reason brett left the show. he got tired of oleary basically treating the pitch people like worms. he looks down on everyone. don't make a deal, but don't tell someone who stupid their idea is or how they know nothing about economics.

but you are right, money is everything to him, and in politics, that is incredibly dangerous.
It's all for show man you know this.
Bretts company Canoe just merged (aquired) oleary funds and now they are business partners to the tune of $4 Billion.
Everything is about money with people in that business.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/kevin-oleary-funds-1.3272502
he can do business with who he wants. Brett was outspoken about his distaste for how the contestants were treated, particularly by Oleary. Don't believe it if you wish.

W. Brett Wilson leaves Dragons’ Den with a challenge

http://news.nationalpost.com/arts/w-brett-wilson-leaves-dragons-den-with-a-challenge

Seems like it was more an issue with the CBC...not other dragons or the contestants...

HughFreakingDillon · October 2016

lukin2006 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:
I worry about O'Leary and his talk about joining politics. It's not because I don't like him (i neither like him nor dislike him I think... I liked him on The Dragon's Den I suppose). I just think that money is basically EVERYTHING to him. I wouldn't trust him to make decisions that are best for people because he would be blinded by dollar signs in any case where money/funding/profits are in play. Plus it really bugs me when these rich people just insert themselves in politics at the end of the road - at the top - without ever putting in the time and gaining the experience. That alone seems ultimately corrupt to me. It makes me think there should be a requirement to have served as an elected official before being allowed to run for top dog. O'Leary is just a sane Trump.
i couldn't stand that fucker on dragon's den, and he's a big reason brett left the show. he got tired of oleary basically treating the pitch people like worms. he looks down on everyone. don't make a deal, but don't tell someone who stupid their idea is or how they know nothing about economics.

but you are right, money is everything to him, and in politics, that is incredibly dangerous.
It's all for show man you know this.
Bretts company Canoe just merged (aquired) oleary funds and now they are business partners to the tune of $4 Billion.
Everything is about money with people in that business.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/kevin-oleary-funds-1.3272502
he can do business with who he wants. Brett was outspoken about his distaste for how the contestants were treated, particularly by Oleary. Don't believe it if you wish.
W. Brett Wilson leaves Dragons’ Den with a challenge

http://news.nationalpost.com/arts/w-brett-wilson-leaves-dragons-den-with-a-challenge

Seems like it was more an issue with the CBC...not other dragons or the contestants...

that article states the opposite of what your take on it was. he specifically stated one of his main issues with the show was the Simon Cowell type beat downs of the contestants. He's speaking directly about O Leary. He's the only one who acted like that.

lukin2006 · October 2016

HughFreakingDillon said:

lukin2006 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:
I worry about O'Leary and his talk about joining politics. It's not because I don't like him (i neither like him nor dislike him I think... I liked him on The Dragon's Den I suppose). I just think that money is basically EVERYTHING to him. I wouldn't trust him to make decisions that are best for people because he would be blinded by dollar signs in any case where money/funding/profits are in play. Plus it really bugs me when these rich people just insert themselves in politics at the end of the road - at the top - without ever putting in the time and gaining the experience. That alone seems ultimately corrupt to me. It makes me think there should be a requirement to have served as an elected official before being allowed to run for top dog. O'Leary is just a sane Trump.
i couldn't stand that fucker on dragon's den, and he's a big reason brett left the show. he got tired of oleary basically treating the pitch people like worms. he looks down on everyone. don't make a deal, but don't tell someone who stupid their idea is or how they know nothing about economics.

but you are right, money is everything to him, and in politics, that is incredibly dangerous.
It's all for show man you know this.
Bretts company Canoe just merged (aquired) oleary funds and now they are business partners to the tune of $4 Billion.
Everything is about money with people in that business.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/kevin-oleary-funds-1.3272502
he can do business with who he wants. Brett was outspoken about his distaste for how the contestants were treated, particularly by Oleary. Don't believe it if you wish.
W. Brett Wilson leaves Dragons’ Den with a challenge

http://news.nationalpost.com/arts/w-brett-wilson-leaves-dragons-den-with-a-challenge

Seems like it was more an issue with the CBC...not other dragons or the contestants...
that article states the opposite of what your take on it was. he specifically stated one of his main issues with the show was the Simon Cowell type beat downs of the contestants. He's speaking directly about O Leary. He's the only one who acted like that.

Whatever ... he's not running for PM and that's along way anyways, it's fucking tv, reality tv at that ... the contestants know what their getting into, or don't go on...

Quick google search and I never found a link between him or O'Leary not getting along, entirely possible he's more pissed at CBC for allowing the show to go in that direction, after all it is their show, plus the CBC is under more pressure than ever to try and make money since they lost their cash cow the NHL...

HughFreakingDillon · October 2016

lukin2006 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

lukin2006 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:
I worry about O'Leary and his talk about joining politics. It's not because I don't like him (i neither like him nor dislike him I think... I liked him on The Dragon's Den I suppose). I just think that money is basically EVERYTHING to him. I wouldn't trust him to make decisions that are best for people because he would be blinded by dollar signs in any case where money/funding/profits are in play. Plus it really bugs me when these rich people just insert themselves in politics at the end of the road - at the top - without ever putting in the time and gaining the experience. That alone seems ultimately corrupt to me. It makes me think there should be a requirement to have served as an elected official before being allowed to run for top dog. O'Leary is just a sane Trump.
i couldn't stand that fucker on dragon's den, and he's a big reason brett left the show. he got tired of oleary basically treating the pitch people like worms. he looks down on everyone. don't make a deal, but don't tell someone who stupid their idea is or how they know nothing about economics.

but you are right, money is everything to him, and in politics, that is incredibly dangerous.
It's all for show man you know this.
Bretts company Canoe just merged (aquired) oleary funds and now they are business partners to the tune of $4 Billion.
Everything is about money with people in that business.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/kevin-oleary-funds-1.3272502
he can do business with who he wants. Brett was outspoken about his distaste for how the contestants were treated, particularly by Oleary. Don't believe it if you wish.
W. Brett Wilson leaves Dragons’ Den with a challenge

http://news.nationalpost.com/arts/w-brett-wilson-leaves-dragons-den-with-a-challenge

Seems like it was more an issue with the CBC...not other dragons or the contestants...
that article states the opposite of what your take on it was. he specifically stated one of his main issues with the show was the Simon Cowell type beat downs of the contestants. He's speaking directly about O Leary. He's the only one who acted like that.
Whatever ... he's not running for PM and that's along way anyways, it's fucking tv, reality tv at that ... the contestants know what their getting into, or don't go on...

Quick google search and I never found a link between him or O'Leary not getting along, entirely possible he's more pissed at CBC for allowing the show to go in that direction, after all it is their show, plus the CBC is under more pressure than ever to try and make money since they lost their cash cow the NHL...

yeah, all I said was a simple "he's part of the reason why Brett left". I read an interview where he stated it very clearly, whether your google search turned it up or not.

lukin2006 · October 2016

Well in the end it's CBC's show and obviously this is the direction that the producers wanted the show to go in, shows like that need a bad guy, and what makes O'Leary any less qualified than the turds that we usually elect, some of you act like politicians know more than the rest of us when in reality it's their staffers that constancy brief them on this issues and give them talking points...it takes a special person to be a politician today...

PJ_Soul · October 2016

lukin2006 said:
Well in the end it's CBC's show and obviously this is the direction that the producers wanted the show to go in, shows like that need a bad guy, and what makes O'Leary any less qualified than the turds that we usually elect, some of you act like politicians know more than the rest of us when in reality it's their staffers that constancy brief them on this issues and give them talking points...it takes a special person to be a politician today...

I already said that I think you shouldn't even qualify legally if you haven't already been voted into public office. So there is that. But I also said that my specific concern about O'Leary is that he is particularly money-focused. People, including politicians, have degrees of concern for their fellow human beings and where they place that vs money on their list of priorities. I think O'Leary's behaviour and actions and words have proven him to have close to zero concern for his fellow human beings if making or saving more money is in the way... Even more than all the politicians. That's bad. He is, IMO, an extreme case as far as that goes.

lukin2006 · October 2016

Oh well, i refuse to hold politicians to any specific levels, politicians should walk amongst us not in the clouds and pretend their shit don't stink. I do not fucking care if you've been in public office one day, makes no fucking difference to me...maybe if people quit pretending you need special skill sets to be a politician maybe just maybe everything would not be so fucked up, maybe if people got elected because they display some common sense, truly care about the taxpayers money that they are elected and essentially entrusted to make good decisions with (which they don't)...

So you want the Status Quo...Im glad for you, Im glad that you support the present status quo of liars and corruptness that takes place. These are the clowns you want? A PM who campaigned on running more deficits, thats leadership, pile more debt on future generations as our social programs get eroded and are starved of the money they deserve because our politicians dating back decades can not/will not live with in their/our means as a country...and the great part of these politicians who can't add, they eventually leave office with generous pension/severance while making somewhere around 4 times the average Canadian, and they leave the mess behind, us holding more debt, no these current clowns are selfish and greedy, well at least i know where O' Leary stands ... sounds like he'd fit in with the rest of the greed and corruption.

lukin2006 · October 2016

lukin2006 said:
Oh well, i refuse to hold politicians to any specific levels, politicians should walk amongst us not in the clouds and pretend their shit don't stink. I do not fucking care if you've been in public office one day, makes no fucking difference to me...maybe if people quit pretending you need special skill sets to be a politician maybe just maybe everything would not be so fucked up, maybe if people got elected because they display some common sense, truly care about the taxpayers money that they are elected and essentially entrusted to make good decisions with (which they don't)...

So you want the Status Quo...Im glad for you, Im glad that you support the present status quo of liars and corruptness that takes place. These are the clowns you want? A PM who campaigned on running more deficits, thats leadership, pile more debt on future generations as our social programs get eroded and are starved of the money they deserve because our politicians dating back decades can not/will not live with in their/our means as a country...and the great part of these politicians who can't add, they eventually leave office with generous pension/severance while making somewhere around 4 times the average Canadian, and they leave the mess behind, us holding more debt, no these current clowns are selfish and greedy, well at least i know where O' Leary stands ... sounds like he'd fit in with the rest of the greed and corruption. Fuck that, I expect better, far better ... I especially feel bad for my nieces and nephews...as they watch social programs shrink.

PJ_Soul · October 2016

So you think that just anyone with common sense can walk into office and do a bang-up job, eh? I would argue that people do indeed need several special skill sets and talents to be a functional politician. And I think they should have had to hold an elected public office before running for leader because that is how they would have proven (ideally) that they do display common sense, caring for the taxpayers money and entrusted to make good decisions. If they haven't held public office before, you just have to take their word for it, and assume that they won't immediately be pulled into the status quo themselves, as most of them are.

I have no clue why you are suddenly talking about me wanting and supporting the status quo. I never said anything about that. Don't read between the lines - you're not good at it. You refuse to hold politicians to any specific level of expectation? Well, that's pretty weird.

Free · October 2016

lukin2006 said:

lukin2006 said:
Oh well, i refuse to hold politicians to any specific levels, politicians should walk amongst us not in the clouds and pretend their shit don't stink. I do not fucking care if you've been in public office one day, makes no fucking difference to me...maybe if people quit pretending you need special skill sets to be a politician maybe just maybe everything would not be so fucked up, maybe if people got elected because they display some common sense, truly care about the taxpayers money that they are elected and essentially entrusted to make good decisions with (which they don't)...

So you want the Status Quo...Im glad for you, Im glad that you support the present status quo of liars and corruptness that takes place. These are the clowns you want? A PM who campaigned on running more deficits, thats leadership, pile more debt on future generations as our social programs get eroded and are starved of the money they deserve because our politicians dating back decades can not/will not live with in their/our means as a country...and the great part of these politicians who can't add, they eventually leave office with generous pension/severance while making somewhere around 4 times the average Canadian, and they leave the mess behind, us holding more debt, no these current clowns are selfish and greedy, well at least i know where O' Leary stands ... sounds like he'd fit in with the rest of the greed and corruption. Fuck that, I expect better, far better ... I especially feel bad for my nieces and nephews...as they watch social programs shrink.

lukin2006 · October 2016

PJ_Soul said:
So you think that just anyone with common sense can walk into office and do a bang-up job, eh? I would argue that people do indeed need several special skill sets and talents to be a functional politician. And I think they should have had to hold an elected public office before running for leader because that is how they would have proven (ideally) that they do display common sense, caring for the taxpayers money and entrusted to make good decisions. If they haven't held public office before, you just have to take their word for it, and assume that they won't immediately be pulled into the status quo themselves, as most of them are.

I have no clue why you are suddenly talking about me wanting and supporting the status quo. I never said anything about that. Don't read between the lines - you're not good at it. You refuse to hold politicians to any specific level of expectation? Well, that's pretty weird.

I'd take my chance with people of common sense, good management skills and money management skills over the current crop of clueless dicks that get elected...and anyone who don't think for 1 minute these current crop of dingy aren't selfish and greedy...

Is often been said municipal politics are the least corrupt, why is that...I think because they live in the community full time, not nearly as easy to hide from the electorate, many in municipal politics come from all walks of life, at least in my community they are, they are accountable...we have good services, no service cut back, a debt management plan, no infrastructure deficit and money put a side for future infrastructure projects...not sure many of these so called quality federal and provincial politicians can say the same...actually I know they can't. when where running 30 billion dollar deficits annually...

PJ_Soul · October 2016

lukin2006 said:

PJ_Soul said:
So you think that just anyone with common sense can walk into office and do a bang-up job, eh? I would argue that people do indeed need several special skill sets and talents to be a functional politician. And I think they should have had to hold an elected public office before running for leader because that is how they would have proven (ideally) that they do display common sense, caring for the taxpayers money and entrusted to make good decisions. If they haven't held public office before, you just have to take their word for it, and assume that they won't immediately be pulled into the status quo themselves, as most of them are.

I have no clue why you are suddenly talking about me wanting and supporting the status quo. I never said anything about that. Don't read between the lines - you're not good at it. You refuse to hold politicians to any specific level of expectation? Well, that's pretty weird.
I'd take my chance with people of common sense, good management skills and money management skills over the current crop of clueless dicks that get elected...and anyone who don't think for 1 minute these current crop of dingy aren't selfish and greedy...

Is often been said municipal politics are the least corrupt, why is that...I think because they live in the community full time, not nearly as easy to hide from the electorate, many in municipal politics come from all walks of life, at least in my community they are, they are accountable...we have good services, no service cut back, a debt management plan, no infrastructure deficit and money put a side for future infrastructure projects...not sure many of these so called quality federal and provincial politicians can say the same...actually I know they can't. when where running 30 billion dollar deficits annually...

Okay, so we agree they do need specific skills besides common sense.
I'm not sure who you are actually talking about. Are you claiming that there isn't a single politician in Canada's government who is competent? If so, I guess they are doing a pretty good job then, considering, lol.
I have often said that I don't trust politicians as far as I can throw them, but you seem to be under some other impression (I think because I am capable of objective thoughts). I just wanted to remind you of where I stand. Not where you think I do, it looks like.

brianlux · October 2016

lukin2006 said:
Oh well, i refuse to hold politicians to any specific levels, politicians should walk amongst us not in the clouds and pretend their shit don't stink. I do not fucking care if you've been in public office one day, makes no fucking difference to me...maybe if people quit pretending you need special skill sets to be a politician maybe just maybe everything would not be so fucked up, maybe if people got elected because they display some common sense, truly care about the taxpayers money that they are elected and essentially entrusted to make good decisions with (which they don't)...

So you want the Status Quo...Im glad for you, Im glad that you support the present status quo of liars and corruptness that takes place. These are the clowns you want? A PM who campaigned on running more deficits, thats leadership, pile more debt on future generations as our social programs get eroded and are starved of the money they deserve because our politicians dating back decades can not/will not live with in their/our means as a country...and the great part of these politicians who can't add, they eventually leave office with generous pension/severance while making somewhere around 4 times the average Canadian, and they leave the mess behind, us holding more debt, no these current clowns are selfish and greedy, well at least i know where O' Leary stands ... sounds like he'd fit in with the rest of the greed and corruption.

I absolutely totally agree. If I wanted a god or goddess as ruler, I'd make up some crazy shit about a bearded guy or a fleet-winged woman flying in the clouds (but I won't). But when looking for a good, honest politician, I'm looking for someone who stands on the ground among the rest of us mortals- someone who thinks and acts like the best among us, not one of the super wealthy or self serving types who pretend they are immortals.

HughFreakingDillon · October 2016

lukin2006 said:
Well in the end it's CBC's show and obviously this is the direction that the producers wanted the show to go in, shows like that need a bad guy, and what makes O'Leary any less qualified than the turds that we usually elect, some of you act like politicians know more than the rest of us when in reality it's their staffers that constancy brief them on this issues and give them talking points...it takes a special person to be a politician today...

it's also temperament, and willingness to listen to advisors. I gather that Oleary is much like trump, in that he always thinks he's right no matter what anyone else says.

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