The Podesta Emails
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I agree very impressive. Nice work. I never realized she was so accomplished. Amazing what happensv when you post substance.CM189191 said:
Continually repeating something doesn't make it true.JC29856 said:
Mudslinging hasnt stuck but what about her record of accomplishments, those certainly stuck.....CM189191 said:
30 years of mudslinging political theater and nothing has stuck. I'll repeat that: not. one. thing. She has been smeared so repeatedly that there is the appearance of scandal where there is none. The people see through it and are tired of it. Is shemace1229 said:Trump is a horrible choice, can't deny that. I can understand weighing what little good you can find from the candidates and think Hilary is the lesser evil, I get that. I weigh everything and think Trump, as horrible as he is, is the better choice, but still admit he is a horrible choice and still can't fathom how in the world he was chosen over the 16 other much more qualified candidates.
This is directed to those who no matter what seem to stand by Hilary's side and make excuses for her or blame the repubs for making mountains out of molehills.
I don't get how anyone can ignore all of the scandals or give the impression they are fabricated.
I'm not as concerned that she used a private server as I am she destroyed evidence AFTER a subpoena was issued to hand it over, and everyone, including the FBI seems okay with that. That's just one example among the dozens listed here and elsewhere. If you're going to vote for her, can you at least admit she is also a terrible candidate, just the lesser of the two evils in your mind?Obamaperfect? No. But she certainly is more qualified by any and every measure. To consider her the lesser of two evils is insulting. I saw a sandwich analogy somewhere that goes like this:
Voters: Hello Subway sandwich artist, can I have a ham sandwich.
Artist: I'm sorry. We ran out of ham yesterday, how about a delicious turkey sandwich instead?
Voters: I'm so angry you don't have ham, I'm just going to eat this sh*t sandwich for 4 years instead.
(Trump is the sh*t sandwich)
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•First ever student commencement speaker at Wellesley College.
•President of the Wellesley Young Republicans
•Intern at the House Republican Conference
•Distinguished graduate of Yale Law School
•Editorial board of the Yale Review of Law and Social Action
•Appointed to Senator Walter Mondale's Subcommittee on Migratory Labor.
•Co-founded Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families
•Staff attorney for Children's Defense Fund
•Faculty member in the School of Law at the University of Arkansas, Fayetteville
•Former Director of the Arkansas Legal Aid Clinic.
•First female chair of the Legal Services Corporation
•First female partner at Rose Law Firm.
•Former civil litigation attorney.
•Former Law Professor at the University of Arkansas School of Law.
•twice listed by The National Law Journal as one of the hundred most influential lawyers in America
•Former First Lady of Arkansas.
•Arkansas Woman of the Year in 1983
•Chair of the American Bar Association's Commission on Women in the Profession
•twice named by the National Law Journal as one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America
•created Arkansas's Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth
•led a task force that reformed Arkansas's education system
•Board of directors of Wal-Mart and several other corporations
•Instrumental in passage of the State Children's Health Insurance Program
•Promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses
•Successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health
•Worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War (now recognized as Gulf War Syndrome)
•Helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice
•Initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act
•First FLOTUS in US History to hold a postgraduate degree
•Traveled to 79 countries during time as FLOTUS
•Helped create Vital Voices, an international initiative to promote the participation of women in the political processes of their countries.
•Served on five Senate committees:
-Committee on Budget (2001–2002)
-Committee on Armed Services (2003–2009)
-Committee on Environment and Public Works (2001–2009)
-Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (2001–2009)
-Special Committee on Aging.
•Member of the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe
•Instrumental in securing $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site's redevelopment
•Leading role in investigating the health issues faced by 9/11 first responders.
•In the aftermath of September 11th, she worked closely with her senior Senate counterpart from New York, Sen. Charles Schumer, on securing $21.4 billion in funding for the World Trade Center redevelopment.
• Middle East ceasefire. In November 2012, Secretary of State Clinton brokered a ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas.
•Introduced the Family Entertainment Protection Act, intended to protect children from inappropriate content found in video games.
•First ex-FLOTUS in US History to be elected to the United States Senate (and re-elected)
•Two-term New York Senator
-(senate stats here: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/hillary_clinton/300022)
-(voting record here: http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/55463/hillary-clinton#.VSyiU_nF8-9)
•Former US Secretary of State
•GRAMMY Award Winner
•Author
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Ditto....I'm assuming you declined my offer?Halifax2TheMax said:
1. Wellesley college gradJC29856 said:
Mudslinging hasnt stuck but what about her record of accomplishments, those certainly stuck.....CM189191 said:
30 years of mudslinging political theater and nothing has stuck. I'll repeat that: not. one. thing. She has been smeared so repeatedly that there is the appearance of scandal where there is none. The people see through it and are tired of it. Is shemace1229 said:Trump is a horrible choice, can't deny that. I can understand weighing what little good you can find from the candidates and think Hilary is the lesser evil, I get that. I weigh everything and think Trump, as horrible as he is, is the better choice, but still admit he is a horrible choice and still can't fathom how in the world he was chosen over the 16 other much more qualified candidates.
This is directed to those who no matter what seem to stand by Hilary's side and make excuses for her or blame the repubs for making mountains out of molehills.
I don't get how anyone can ignore all of the scandals or give the impression they are fabricated.
I'm not as concerned that she used a private server as I am she destroyed evidence AFTER a subpoena was issued to hand it over, and everyone, including the FBI seems okay with that. That's just one example among the dozens listed here and elsewhere. If you're going to vote for her, can you at least admit she is also a terrible candidate, just the lesser of the two evils in your mind?Obamaperfect? No. But she certainly is more qualified by any and every measure. To consider her the lesser of two evils is insulting. I saw a sandwich analogy somewhere that goes like this:
Voters: Hello Subway sandwich artist, can I have a ham sandwich.
Artist: I'm sorry. We ran out of ham yesterday, how about a delicious turkey sandwich instead?
Voters: I'm so angry you don't have ham, I'm just going to eat this sh*t sandwich for 4 years instead.
(Trump is the sh*t sandwich)
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2. Yale law school grad
3. On watergate committee staff
4. FLOA
5. FLOUS
6. Instrumental in putting affordable healthcare on the national agenda(ahead of its time)
7. Elected to US senate
8. Appointed and confirmed as SOS
9. Secured her party's nomination to be candidate for president of US
10. Defeated Bernie Sanders in the primaries.
11. Will become the next president of the US
C'mon man, do your research, don't be lazy.0 -
Why would I accept your offer? What is this? Pay to play?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Remember Nancy, God rest her soul, just say no.Halifax2TheMax said:Why would I accept your offer? What is this? Pay to play?
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no it refers to Trumps tweet(s) since these were published. had nothing to do with JC.tonifig8 said:
Is this an attack on JC? Not sure why you need to dumb down the convo. He's providing information (leaks) that not even the White House is questioning its authenticity. That's pretty serious.CM189191 said:
I think he was trying to reach out to the African-American demographic. A little late for that Trumpy. That ship sailed when you took answer from a black man in the last debate and immediately assumed he was from the inner city, and then proceeded to call him poor, uneducated and unemployed.mickeyrat said:ok so now the shackles are off? and what we've seen up to now has been restraint?
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Fallon butt hurt regarding wiki no big deal nobody cares docs
You are no media organization. You are a propaganda arm of the Russian govt, running interference for their pet candidate, Trump
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RE: Sister Souljah moment
From:jsullivan@hillaryclinton.com To: rrusso@hillaryclinton.com Date: 2015-10-15 16:58 Subject: RE: Sister Souljah moment
John, feel free to share this. *From:* Robert Russo [mailto:rrusso@hillaryclinton.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 2:58 PM *To:* Jake Sullivan *Cc:* John Podesta ; Laura Rosenberger < lrosenberger@hillaryclinton.com> *Subject:* Re: Sister Souljah moment Attached is the letter we sent. -Rob On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Jake Sullivan wrote: Yes. Adding Rob to send you a letter to Malcolm Hoenlein on this. Adding Laura to figure out how to release it more broadly. *From:* John Podesta [mailto:john.podesta@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 2:31 PM *To:* Jake Sullivan *Subject:* Fwd: Sister Souljah moment Didn't we do something on this? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Charles Bane Jr* Date: Thursday, October 15, 2015 Subject: Sister Souljah moment To: podesta@law.georgetown.edu Dear Mr. Podesta, I believe there is a Sister Souljah moment awaiting Sec. Clinton that will advance both the health of the Democratic party, and the aims of the Clinton campaign. I'm a lifelong Democrat, but I'm repulsed by the BDS movement that has become, in too many minds, a tenet of progressive orthodoxy. As extreme as the most conservative may be, the right wing is unswerving in its support of Israel, and shows no tolerance for anti- Semitism. I understand fully that the PM of Israel is an opportunist, and unsavory. But the larger reality is that the BDS movement, popular among academics, would be gaining adherents no matter who was PM. This is fundamentally wrong. It needs to be addressed as a moral issue and the Secretary, would, in my opinion, reap the benefits of being ( as we both know her to be ) unequivocally pro- Israel in voters' minds. Cordially, Charles Bane, Jr. Palm Beach, Fl.0 -
Brazile however is denying that she the CNN question. “As a longtime political activist with deep ties to our party, I supported all of our candidates for president. I often shared my thoughts with each and every campaign, and any suggestions that indicate otherwise are simply untrue. As it pertains to the CNN Debates, I never had access to questions and would never have shared them with the candidates if I did," Brazile said in a statement.Gern Blansten said:
Earth Shattering!!JC29856 said:https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5205
Nope nothing hear. Exactly 1 day before the debate.
Re: From time to time I get the questions in advance
From:jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com To: donna@brazileassociates.com, balcantara@hillaryclinton.com Date: 2016-03-12 19:41 Subject: Re: From time to time I get the questions in advance
Hi. Yes, it is one she gets asked about. Not everyone likes her answer but can share it. Betsaida - can you send her answer on death penalty? Sent from my iPhone
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/wikileaks-email-hack-clinton-donna-brazile-2296090 -
Donna Brazile is no innocent.
Donna Brazile Implicated In Leaked Emails As DNC Purge Looms
http://reverbpress.com/politics/battlegrounds/donna-brazile-implicated-in-leaked-emails-as-dnc-purge-begins/0 -
I guess this stuff seems newsworthy in the current climate of a presidential campaign that is mainly run by sitting on a toilet and writing tweets.
But this just seems like strategy, tactics and politics stuff. Ya know all the things Trump has no time for.0 -
Widespread corruption involving the media now.JC29856 said:
Brazile however is denying that she the CNN question. “As a longtime political activist with deep ties to our party, I supported all of our candidates for president. I often shared my thoughts with each and every campaign, and any suggestions that indicate otherwise are simply untrue. As it pertains to the CNN Debates, I never had access to questions and would never have shared them with the candidates if I did," Brazile said in a statement.Gern Blansten said:
Earth Shattering!!JC29856 said:https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5205
Nope nothing hear. Exactly 1 day before the debate.
Re: From time to time I get the questions in advance
From:jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com To: donna@brazileassociates.com, balcantara@hillaryclinton.com Date: 2016-03-12 19:41 Subject: Re: From time to time I get the questions in advance
Hi. Yes, it is one she gets asked about. Not everyone likes her answer but can share it. Betsaida - can you send her answer on death penalty? Sent from my iPhone
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/wikileaks-email-hack-clinton-donna-brazile-229609
So much for the Separation of powers0 -
Okay, I'll give you a penny for your thoughts but even that's too much.JC29856 said:
You plegde 100 I'll plegde 1000 if there no such email.JC29856 said:JC29856 said:
You didn't look...don't be lazy. It contributes nothing to public awareness so I didn't post. You pick the pj charity and I'll do your work for it. How much you contributing and to which charity?Halifax2TheMax said:
You're the one quoting podesta. Or claiming to. Who's lazy again?JC29856 said:
You didn't look...don't be lazy. It contributes nothing to public awareness so I didn't post. You pick the pj charity and I'll do your work for it. How much you contributing and to which charity?Halifax2TheMax said:Funny but I didn't see where podesta said, "stay off the GMOs."
Goes to a good cause...I'll go 10 to 1 with 100 minimum from you?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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This isn't newsworthy. At all.JC29856 said:
RE: Sister Souljah moment
From:jsullivan@hillaryclinton.com To: rrusso@hillaryclinton.com Date: 2015-10-15 16:58 Subject: RE: Sister Souljah moment
John, feel free to share this. *From:* Robert Russo [mailto:rrusso@hillaryclinton.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 2:58 PM *To:* Jake Sullivan *Cc:* John Podesta ; Laura Rosenberger < lrosenberger@hillaryclinton.com> *Subject:* Re: Sister Souljah moment Attached is the letter we sent. -Rob On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Jake Sullivan wrote: Yes. Adding Rob to send you a letter to Malcolm Hoenlein on this. Adding Laura to figure out how to release it more broadly. *From:* John Podesta [mailto:john.podesta@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 2:31 PM *To:* Jake Sullivan *Subject:* Fwd: Sister Souljah moment Didn't we do something on this? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Charles Bane Jr* Date: Thursday, October 15, 2015 Subject: Sister Souljah moment To: podesta@law.georgetown.edu Dear Mr. Podesta, I believe there is a Sister Souljah moment awaiting Sec. Clinton that will advance both the health of the Democratic party, and the aims of the Clinton campaign. I'm a lifelong Democrat, but I'm repulsed by the BDS movement that has become, in too many minds, a tenet of progressive orthodoxy. As extreme as the most conservative may be, the right wing is unswerving in its support of Israel, and shows no tolerance for anti- Semitism. I understand fully that the PM of Israel is an opportunist, and unsavory. But the larger reality is that the BDS movement, popular among academics, would be gaining adherents no matter who was PM. This is fundamentally wrong. It needs to be addressed as a moral issue and the Secretary, would, in my opinion, reap the benefits of being ( as we both know her to be ) unequivocally pro- Israel in voters' minds. Cordially, Charles Bane, Jr. Palm Beach, Fl.
It's just mundane strategy details.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
You really think this is just mudslinging, made up accusations?CM189191 said:
30 years of mudslinging political theater and nothing has stuck. I'll repeat that: not. one. thing. She has been smeared so repeatedly that there is the appearance of scandal where there is none. The people see through it and are tired of it. Is shemace1229 said:Trump is a horrible choice, can't deny that. I can understand weighing what little good you can find from the candidates and think Hilary is the lesser evil, I get that. I weigh everything and think Trump, as horrible as he is, is the better choice, but still admit he is a horrible choice and still can't fathom how in the world he was chosen over the 16 other much more qualified candidates.
This is directed to those who no matter what seem to stand by Hilary's side and make excuses for her or blame the repubs for making mountains out of molehills.
I don't get how anyone can ignore all of the scandals or give the impression they are fabricated.
I'm not as concerned that she used a private server as I am she destroyed evidence AFTER a subpoena was issued to hand it over, and everyone, including the FBI seems okay with that. That's just one example among the dozens listed here and elsewhere. If you're going to vote for her, can you at least admit she is also a terrible candidate, just the lesser of the two evils in your mind?Obamaperfect? No. But she certainly is more qualified by any and every measure. To consider her the lesser of two evils is insulting. I saw a sandwich analogy somewhere that goes like this:
Voters: Hello Subway sandwich artist, can I have a ham sandwich.
Artist: I'm sorry. We ran out of ham yesterday, how about a delicious turkey sandwich instead?
Voters: I'm so angry you don't have ham, I'm just going to eat this sh*t sandwich for 4 years instead.
(Trump is the sh*t sandwich)
No one made up the fact she was served a subpoena, that's fact. She deleted tens of thousands of emails after the subpoena, that's fact. She lied to the FBI during the investigation, that's fact. What part of that falls under mudslinging?
People are in jail for far less that what she's done, that's also fact. Any one of those can lead to jail time, and would have if her name wasn't Clinton.0 -
The mother of a hacker physically move a laptop from a bedroom to the kitchen cabinet as instructed by her son.mace1229 said:
You really think this is just mudslinging, made up accusations?CM189191 said:
30 years of mudslinging political theater and nothing has stuck. I'll repeat that: not. one. thing. She has been smeared so repeatedly that there is the appearance of scandal where there is none. The people see through it and are tired of it. Is shemace1229 said:Trump is a horrible choice, can't deny that. I can understand weighing what little good you can find from the candidates and think Hilary is the lesser evil, I get that. I weigh everything and think Trump, as horrible as he is, is the better choice, but still admit he is a horrible choice and still can't fathom how in the world he was chosen over the 16 other much more qualified candidates.
This is directed to those who no matter what seem to stand by Hilary's side and make excuses for her or blame the repubs for making mountains out of molehills.
I don't get how anyone can ignore all of the scandals or give the impression they are fabricated.
I'm not as concerned that she used a private server as I am she destroyed evidence AFTER a subpoena was issued to hand it over, and everyone, including the FBI seems okay with that. That's just one example among the dozens listed here and elsewhere. If you're going to vote for her, can you at least admit she is also a terrible candidate, just the lesser of the two evils in your mind?Obamaperfect? No. But she certainly is more qualified by any and every measure. To consider her the lesser of two evils is insulting. I saw a sandwich analogy somewhere that goes like this:
Voters: Hello Subway sandwich artist, can I have a ham sandwich.
Artist: I'm sorry. We ran out of ham yesterday, how about a delicious turkey sandwich instead?
Voters: I'm so angry you don't have ham, I'm just going to eat this sh*t sandwich for 4 years instead.
(Trump is the sh*t sandwich)
No one made up the fact she was served a subpoena, that's fact. She deleted tens of thousands of emails after the subpoena, that's fact. She lied to the FBI during the investigation, that's fact. What part of that falls under mudslinging?
People are in jail for far less that what she's done, that's also fact. Any one of those can lead to jail time, and would have if her name wasn't Clinton.
Obstruction of justice 90 days jail.
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People who have done nothing more than lie to the FBI during an investigation have served jail time for impeding an investigation. Now I don't want to see Hilary in jail, but why does she get a free pass and how can this count for "mudslinging"?JC29856 said:
The mother of a hacker physically move a laptop from a bedroom to the kitchen cabinet as instructed by her son.mace1229 said:
You really think this is just mudslinging, made up accusations?CM189191 said:
30 years of mudslinging political theater and nothing has stuck. I'll repeat that: not. one. thing. She has been smeared so repeatedly that there is the appearance of scandal where there is none. The people see through it and are tired of it. Is shemace1229 said:Trump is a horrible choice, can't deny that. I can understand weighing what little good you can find from the candidates and think Hilary is the lesser evil, I get that. I weigh everything and think Trump, as horrible as he is, is the better choice, but still admit he is a horrible choice and still can't fathom how in the world he was chosen over the 16 other much more qualified candidates.
This is directed to those who no matter what seem to stand by Hilary's side and make excuses for her or blame the repubs for making mountains out of molehills.
I don't get how anyone can ignore all of the scandals or give the impression they are fabricated.
I'm not as concerned that she used a private server as I am she destroyed evidence AFTER a subpoena was issued to hand it over, and everyone, including the FBI seems okay with that. That's just one example among the dozens listed here and elsewhere. If you're going to vote for her, can you at least admit she is also a terrible candidate, just the lesser of the two evils in your mind?Obamaperfect? No. But she certainly is more qualified by any and every measure. To consider her the lesser of two evils is insulting. I saw a sandwich analogy somewhere that goes like this:
Voters: Hello Subway sandwich artist, can I have a ham sandwich.
Artist: I'm sorry. We ran out of ham yesterday, how about a delicious turkey sandwich instead?
Voters: I'm so angry you don't have ham, I'm just going to eat this sh*t sandwich for 4 years instead.
(Trump is the sh*t sandwich)
No one made up the fact she was served a subpoena, that's fact. She deleted tens of thousands of emails after the subpoena, that's fact. She lied to the FBI during the investigation, that's fact. What part of that falls under mudslinging?
People are in jail for far less that what she's done, that's also fact. Any one of those can lead to jail time, and would have if her name wasn't Clinton.
Obstruction of justice 90 days jail.0 -
Oh my god, please, how old are you? Do you realize how embarrassed you should be by the way you respond to people? Stop doing it to yourself. Have some self respect.tonifig8 said:
The victim card.what dreams said:
Your interpretation of this quote is totally off base. She is saying she no longer lives the life she lived growing up as a regular middle class person but SHE REMEMBERS IT. For goodness sakes, copy the whole email instead of clipping only the part that serves your purpose. I've read this particular leaked email in its entirety, and you left out the very crucial part where she describes what it was like growing up middle class and SHE REMEMBERS IT even though she no longer lives it.JC29856 said:
That's not public interest thou, no biggie, Hilliary closest sadviser saying she hates everyday Americans. Then connect that to Hillary saying she has no idea what its like to not be super rich.tonifig8 said:
How about her public policy and private policy? Was that earth shattering?!?!?! Ah, of course not, we all new she was a two face lying politician.Gern Blansten said:
Earth Shattering!!JC29856 said:https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5205
Nope nothing hear. Exactly 1 day before the debate.
Re: From time to time I get the questions in advance
From:jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com To: donna@brazileassociates.com, balcantara@hillaryclinton.com Date: 2016-03-12 19:41 Subject: Re: From time to time I get the questions in advance
Hi. Yes, it is one she gets asked about. Not everyone likes her answer but can share it. Betsaida - can you send her answer on death penalty? Sent from my iPhone
"And now, obviously, I'm kind of far removed because of the life I've lived and the economic, you know, fortunes that my husband and I now enjoy, but I haven't forgotten it."
In another email she talks about a bias voters have against successful people, that they get criticized for improving their lot in life. Seems to me that's what we have here in your post. God forbid, the Clintons pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and became wealthy. Isn't that everyone's dream? If I ever growing rich, I'll be sure not to share my good fortune on this page.
But wait, How dare you get information from a source outside of C-Span.Post edited by what dreams on0 -
If you are to believe that Hillary is as crooked as she is alleged to be, and you see that she has escaped prosecution over 30 years for murder, bribery, perjury, treason, and everything else she is accused of, then you also have to believe this: The FBI Director has failed. The Attorney General has failed. Federal judges have failed. Several Congressional committees have failed. Special prosecutors have failed. Grand juries have failed. The IRS has failed. Everyone but Clinton has failed, if what you want to believe of her is true.mace1229 said:
People who have done nothing more than lie to the FBI during an investigation have served jail time for impeding an investigation. Now I don't want to see Hilary in jail, but why does she get a free pass and how can this count for "mudslinging"?JC29856 said:
The mother of a hacker physically move a laptop from a bedroom to the kitchen cabinet as instructed by her son.mace1229 said:
You really think this is just mudslinging, made up accusations?CM189191 said:
30 years of mudslinging political theater and nothing has stuck. I'll repeat that: not. one. thing. She has been smeared so repeatedly that there is the appearance of scandal where there is none. The people see through it and are tired of it. Is shemace1229 said:Trump is a horrible choice, can't deny that. I can understand weighing what little good you can find from the candidates and think Hilary is the lesser evil, I get that. I weigh everything and think Trump, as horrible as he is, is the better choice, but still admit he is a horrible choice and still can't fathom how in the world he was chosen over the 16 other much more qualified candidates.
This is directed to those who no matter what seem to stand by Hilary's side and make excuses for her or blame the repubs for making mountains out of molehills.
I don't get how anyone can ignore all of the scandals or give the impression they are fabricated.
I'm not as concerned that she used a private server as I am she destroyed evidence AFTER a subpoena was issued to hand it over, and everyone, including the FBI seems okay with that. That's just one example among the dozens listed here and elsewhere. If you're going to vote for her, can you at least admit she is also a terrible candidate, just the lesser of the two evils in your mind?Obamaperfect? No. But she certainly is more qualified by any and every measure. To consider her the lesser of two evils is insulting. I saw a sandwich analogy somewhere that goes like this:
Voters: Hello Subway sandwich artist, can I have a ham sandwich.
Artist: I'm sorry. We ran out of ham yesterday, how about a delicious turkey sandwich instead?
Voters: I'm so angry you don't have ham, I'm just going to eat this sh*t sandwich for 4 years instead.
(Trump is the sh*t sandwich)
No one made up the fact she was served a subpoena, that's fact. She deleted tens of thousands of emails after the subpoena, that's fact. She lied to the FBI during the investigation, that's fact. What part of that falls under mudslinging?
People are in jail for far less that what she's done, that's also fact. Any one of those can lead to jail time, and would have if her name wasn't Clinton.
Obstruction of justice 90 days jail.
Can you really look at an entire system of government who have investigated her over a 30 year span, and say that Hillary Clinton is so clever, so cunning, so powerful that she's been able to control our ENTIRE democracy at every level of investigation? It seems to me that if you believe that, then Clinton is not the problem. I would be questioning the competency of every single government employee who has tried and failed to get her. Because, damn, if she's really that good at deception, more power to her.0 -
I didn't accuse her of murder, treason or most of what was on your list. But with the undisputed fact of the email scandal, yes I would say the FBI and attorney general had failed, allowing politics to guide their practice and decision.what dreams said:
If you are to believe that Hillary is as crooked as she is alleged to be, and you see that she has escaped prosecution over 30 years for murder, bribery, perjury, treason, and everything else she is accused of, then you also have to believe this: The FBI Director has failed. The Attorney General has failed. Federal judges have failed. Several Congressional committees have failed. Special prosecutors have failed. Grand juries have failed. The IRS has failed. Everyone but Clinton has failed, if what you want to believe of her is true.mace1229 said:
People who have done nothing more than lie to the FBI during an investigation have served jail time for impeding an investigation. Now I don't want to see Hilary in jail, but why does she get a free pass and how can this count for "mudslinging"?JC29856 said:
The mother of a hacker physically move a laptop from a bedroom to the kitchen cabinet as instructed by her son.mace1229 said:
You really think this is just mudslinging, made up accusations?CM189191 said:
30 years of mudslinging political theater and nothing has stuck. I'll repeat that: not. one. thing. She has been smeared so repeatedly that there is the appearance of scandal where there is none. The people see through it and are tired of it. Is shemace1229 said:Trump is a horrible choice, can't deny that. I can understand weighing what little good you can find from the candidates and think Hilary is the lesser evil, I get that. I weigh everything and think Trump, as horrible as he is, is the better choice, but still admit he is a horrible choice and still can't fathom how in the world he was chosen over the 16 other much more qualified candidates.
This is directed to those who no matter what seem to stand by Hilary's side and make excuses for her or blame the repubs for making mountains out of molehills.
I don't get how anyone can ignore all of the scandals or give the impression they are fabricated.
I'm not as concerned that she used a private server as I am she destroyed evidence AFTER a subpoena was issued to hand it over, and everyone, including the FBI seems okay with that. That's just one example among the dozens listed here and elsewhere. If you're going to vote for her, can you at least admit she is also a terrible candidate, just the lesser of the two evils in your mind?Obamaperfect? No. But she certainly is more qualified by any and every measure. To consider her the lesser of two evils is insulting. I saw a sandwich analogy somewhere that goes like this:
Voters: Hello Subway sandwich artist, can I have a ham sandwich.
Artist: I'm sorry. We ran out of ham yesterday, how about a delicious turkey sandwich instead?
Voters: I'm so angry you don't have ham, I'm just going to eat this sh*t sandwich for 4 years instead.
(Trump is the sh*t sandwich)
No one made up the fact she was served a subpoena, that's fact. She deleted tens of thousands of emails after the subpoena, that's fact. She lied to the FBI during the investigation, that's fact. What part of that falls under mudslinging?
People are in jail for far less that what she's done, that's also fact. Any one of those can lead to jail time, and would have if her name wasn't Clinton.
Obstruction of justice 90 days jail.
Can you really look at an entire system of government who have investigated her over a 30 year span, and say that Hillary Clinton is so clever, so cunning, so powerful that she's been able to control our ENTIRE democracy at every level of investigation? It seems to me that if you believe that, then Clinton is not the problem. I would be questioning the competency of every single government employee who has tried and failed to get her. Because, damn, if she's really that good at deception, more power to her.
It is undisputed she lied to FBI and destroyed evidence after a subpeona. It's not even up for debate that these things happened. It's not mudslinging, or made up accusations from the opposing party, they happened and no one denies they happened. How would you argue that the right decision was made? If it was how to you defend the inprisonment of thousands of people who did what she did, or have they been wrongfully prosecuted? I have yet to see a single defense to these actions other than "it's politics, move on" attitude.0 -
Aren't you the one who stated that you only watch C-Span and that all these links/articles people post around here aren't credible sources? Didn't you call them facebook links or something to that degree? Didn't you also call me stupid?what dreams said:
Oh my god, please, how old are you? Do you realize how embarrassed you should be by the way you respond to people? Stop doing it to yourself. Have some self respect.tonifig8 said:
The victim card.what dreams said:
Your interpretation of this quote is totally off base. She is saying she no longer lives the life she lived growing up as a regular middle class person but SHE REMEMBERS IT. For goodness sakes, copy the whole email instead of clipping only the part that serves your purpose. I've read this particular leaked email in its entirety, and you left out the very crucial part where she describes what it was like growing up middle class and SHE REMEMBERS IT even though she no longer lives it.JC29856 said:
That's not public interest thou, no biggie, Hilliary closest sadviser saying she hates everyday Americans. Then connect that to Hillary saying she has no idea what its like to not be super rich.tonifig8 said:
How about her public policy and private policy? Was that earth shattering?!?!?! Ah, of course not, we all new she was a two face lying politician.Gern Blansten said:
Earth Shattering!!JC29856 said:https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5205
Nope nothing hear. Exactly 1 day before the debate.
Re: From time to time I get the questions in advance
From:jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com To: donna@brazileassociates.com, balcantara@hillaryclinton.com Date: 2016-03-12 19:41 Subject: Re: From time to time I get the questions in advance
Hi. Yes, it is one she gets asked about. Not everyone likes her answer but can share it. Betsaida - can you send her answer on death penalty? Sent from my iPhone
"And now, obviously, I'm kind of far removed because of the life I've lived and the economic, you know, fortunes that my husband and I now enjoy, but I haven't forgotten it."
In another email she talks about a bias voters have against successful people, that they get criticized for improving their lot in life. Seems to me that's what we have here in your post. God forbid, the Clintons pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and became wealthy. Isn't that everyone's dream? If I ever growing rich, I'll be sure not to share my good fortune on this page.
But wait, How dare you get information from a source outside of C-Span.
Talking down to someone and calling them stupid aren't childish remarks? Cut the drama, especially coming from an educator like yourself.
Let me know if you need a link to review the shit you've said.Post edited by Boxes&Books on0
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