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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,147
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:
    So you see why I'm not too concerned about this stuff? It has to make its way through the filter before we can really form opinions on it.

    As a start...let's at least determine if the shit is legit or not.
    I consider myself a good filter, if you'be seen my posts Sid doesn't rank too high, I didn't post that particular leak bec it was reference being made but newsweek and the author are trying to distort what may have happened. I posted the YouTube and said, not entirely true.
    I have zero doubt these leaks are authentic based on wiki track record and that no one has said otherwise. The lazy way to disprove them is to repeat Putin and Russia hackers over and over without proof.
    But the email that we were discussing was clearly edited to make it seem like Podesta was making statements that were in the Newsweek article.
    Edited? Where's the edit?
    Did you not read the link? The guy that wrote the Newsweek article spells it out pretty clearly. Unless I'm misunderstanding
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  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    edited October 2016

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5205

    Nope nothing hear. Exactly 1 day before the debate.


    Re: From time to time I get the questions in advance

    From:jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com To: donna@brazileassociates.com, balcantara@hillaryclinton.com Date: 2016-03-12 19:41 Subject: Re: From time to time I get the questions in advance

    Hi. Yes, it is one she gets asked about. Not everyone likes her answer but can share it. Betsaida - can you send her answer on death penalty? Sent from my iPhone

    Earth Shattering!!
    How about her public policy and private policy? Was that earth shattering?!?!?! Ah, of course not, we all new she was a two face lying politician.
    Do you have a link for the full context of that statement?
    You said he couldn't get dems or independents.

    He's getting my vote. If you need proof that I've been a strong supporter of candidates on the left- let me know. I'm sure I can pull an article or two.

    I didn't say he couldn't get the uninformed vote

    why don't you inform me then, since you're apparently above it all. Or why don't you update your post to clarify this, instead of acting like a condescending prick.

    Educate me on Clinton. We all know Trump is garbage.
    Post edited by Boxes&Books on
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,147
    Those words sounded really, really familiar. Really familiar. Like, so familiar they struck me as something I wrote. Because they were something I wrote.

    The Russians were quoting two sentences from a 10,000-word piece I wrote for Newsweek, which Blumenthal had emailed to Podesta. There was no mistaking that Blumenthal was citing Newsweek—the magazine’s name and citations for photographs appeared throughout the attached article. The Russians had carefully selected the “of course” paragraph, which mentions there were legitimate points of criticism regarding Clinton and Benghazi, all of which had been acknowledged in nine reports about the attack and by the former secretary of state herself. But that was hardly the point of the story, “Benghazi Biopsy: A Comprehensive Guide to One of America’s Worst Political Outrages.” The piece is about the obscene politicization of the assault that killed four Americans, and the article slammed the Republican Benghazi committee, which was engaged in a political show trial disguised as a congressional investigation—the 10th inquiry into the tragedy.
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  • JC29856
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    mickeyrat said:

    JC29856 said:

    Here is the leak email that Trump read aloud and that Dem spinsters are falsely claiming are fake.

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2038

    that whole thing read as a copy paste OF the article. not as words directly from either podesta or blumanthal
    Correct as reference.
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    edited October 2016
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:
    So you see why I'm not too concerned about this stuff? It has to make its way through the filter before we can really form opinions on it.

    As a start...let's at least determine if the shit is legit or not.
    I consider myself a good filter, if you'be seen my posts Sid doesn't rank too high, I didn't post that particular leak bec it was reference being made but newsweek and the author are trying to distort what may have happened. I posted the YouTube and said, not entirely true.
    I have zero doubt these leaks are authentic based on wiki track record and that no one has said otherwise. The lazy way to disprove them is to repeat Putin and Russia hackers over and over without proof.
    But the email that we were discussing was clearly edited to make it seem like Podesta was making statements that were in the Newsweek article.
    Edited? Where's the edit?
    Did you not read the link? The guy that wrote the Newsweek article spells it out pretty clearly. Unless I'm misunderstanding
    Why would I read the newsweek article when I read the source itself, the leak?
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,147
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:
    So you see why I'm not too concerned about this stuff? It has to make its way through the filter before we can really form opinions on it.

    As a start...let's at least determine if the shit is legit or not.
    I consider myself a good filter, if you'be seen my posts Sid doesn't rank too high, I didn't post that particular leak bec it was reference being made but newsweek and the author are trying to distort what may have happened. I posted the YouTube and said, not entirely true.
    I have zero doubt these leaks are authentic based on wiki track record and that no one has said otherwise. The lazy way to disprove them is to repeat Putin and Russia hackers over and over without proof.
    But the email that we were discussing was clearly edited to make it seem like Podesta was making statements that were in the Newsweek article.
    Edited? Where's the edit?
    Did you not read the link? The guy that wrote the Newsweek article spells it out pretty clearly. Unless I'm misunderstanding
    Why would I read the newsweek article when I read the source itself, the leak?
    Just as I thought. Read the link dude.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    I don't think any of this is revealing. The GOP has already convinced their sheeple that she is the devil. These emails are certainly not going to influence the dems or moderates.

    I'm an independent - I've never voted on the right.

    This evidence has convinced me to vote for Trump. I was never planning on voting for Trump- I think he's complete garbage.
    Wait, you're joking right?

    You are willing to risk throwing away every bit of forward motion hard fought by true progressives because you of an irrational hatred of Clinton? A likely majority for conservatives in the Senate, House, White House, and Supreme Court...all because Hiwwawy huwts youw feewings?

    Wait one minute. I donated a whole lot of money and time to help elect Sanders. I wanted to build on that progress we made and hopefully fine tune it. Clinton is not my fault. That's your fault.
    I recognize now that a trump presidency would do nothing for our country, other then having a shit president (wouldn't be the first) and having to wait four more years for a good president.
    Clinton's corruption is a gigantic threat to our democracy and we may never have another chance at this again. She has the DOJ, Wall Street, FBI, career politicians, and the media under her thumb. Think about that for one min. If she wants war who better then the media to spin it? She'll have Assange and Snowden silenced and I'm sure she won't be so careless next time around.

    She would have a free pass, not saying republicans are going to roll over in public, but think about the things we can't see- the Blackdoot deals - the Tarmac meetings... All of that good stuff.

    Trump on the other hand wouldn't be able to fart without the media blowing shit up. After he leaves the White House we can burn all the sheets and erase him from our memories. Shit we could probably get him impeached

    Use common sense. It's our greatest trait.
    I voted for Sanders, and donated some money to his campaign as well.
    A Trump presidency extends well beyond 4 years of a bad President, that's just common sense with the Supreme Court nominations that are on the horizon. Trump will nominate Justices that will rule against everything you care about for decades. Common sense says don't vote for that.

    To the part I bolded:
    You are paranoid and you sound like a right-winger who is afraid Obama is going to confiscate all the guns and declare himself Emperor.
    Just yesterday I told a right-winger friend of a friend on Facebook to take a chill pill because they sounded like an insane person. Speaking on the possibility of Clinton being elected he said:
    "The Republic is gone, freedom and liberty are dead. No more honor and duty, no more kumbaya. America will be no more."

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  • mickeyrat said:

    JC29856 said:

    Here is the leak email that Trump read aloud and that Dem spinsters are falsely claiming are fake.

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2038

    that whole thing read as a copy paste OF the article. not as words directly from either podesta or blumanthal
    Exactly. Just what I thought when I read the link. Does Julian Assange vet this shit before he claims it'll take Hillary down or is he just adding to the confusion and trying to make himself relevant?

    And this is why the republicans haven't piled on and stayed with Trump, they know its all political theater. No substance. Again, where are the indictments?
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited October 2016

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:
    So you see why I'm not too concerned about this stuff? It has to make its way through the filter before we can really form opinions on it.

    As a start...let's at least determine if the shit is legit or not.
    I consider myself a good filter, if you'be seen my posts Sid doesn't rank too high, I didn't post that particular leak bec it was reference being made but newsweek and the author are trying to distort what may have happened. I posted the YouTube and said, not entirely true.
    I have zero doubt these leaks are authentic based on wiki track record and that no one has said otherwise. The lazy way to disprove them is to repeat Putin and Russia hackers over and over without proof.
    But the email that we were discussing was clearly edited to make it seem like Podesta was making statements that were in the Newsweek article.
    Edited? Where's the edit?
    Did you not read the link? The guy that wrote the Newsweek article spells it out pretty clearly. Unless I'm misunderstanding
    Why would I read the newsweek article when I read the source itself, the leak?
    Just as I thought. Read the link dude.
    Dude. I read the email and posted here, i know it was making references, that's why I didn't post it here. Trump was too stupid to realize that or he was trying to deceive. The newsweek guy is a spinster, I don't need to read his second hand article.
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    There was no mistaking that Blumenthal was citing Newsweek.

    Isn't that the same as using as reference?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,323
    JC29856 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    JC29856 said:

    Here is the leak email that Trump read aloud and that Dem spinsters are falsely claiming are fake.

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2038

    that whole thing read as a copy paste OF the article. not as words directly from either podesta or blumanthal
    Correct as reference.
    and presented AS words directly spoken/written by either of those two men by Trump.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:

    mickeyrat said:
    Sounds good but totally plausible that he we simply reading the leaked email. If you read the email is easy to think it was from Sid. I almost posted here then I realized it was only making reference to the article.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited October 2016
    mickeyrat said:

    JC29856 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    JC29856 said:

    Here is the leak email that Trump read aloud and that Dem spinsters are falsely claiming are fake.

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2038

    that whole thing read as a copy paste OF the article. not as words directly from either podesta or blumanthal
    Correct as reference.
    and presented AS words directly spoken/written by either of those two men by Trump.
    Correct...and as I stated plausible that anyone reading would could make the same mistake or that Trump was purposefully trying to deceive.

    Still searching for "edited" or "edit"
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:

    This isn't exactly true ENTERTAINING yes.


    https://youtu.be/Y86z3k5s8XY

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,147
    edited October 2016
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:
    So you see why I'm not too concerned about this stuff? It has to make its way through the filter before we can really form opinions on it.

    As a start...let's at least determine if the shit is legit or not.
    I consider myself a good filter, if you'be seen my posts Sid doesn't rank too high, I didn't post that particular leak bec it was reference being made but newsweek and the author are trying to distort what may have happened. I posted the YouTube and said, not entirely true.
    I have zero doubt these leaks are authentic based on wiki track record and that no one has said otherwise. The lazy way to disprove them is to repeat Putin and Russia hackers over and over without proof.
    But the email that we were discussing was clearly edited to make it seem like Podesta was making statements that were in the Newsweek article.
    Edited? Where's the edit?
    Did you not read the link? The guy that wrote the Newsweek article spells it out pretty clearly. Unless I'm misunderstanding
    Why would I read the newsweek article when I read the source itself, the leak?
    Just as I thought. Read the link dude.
    Dude. I read the email and posted here, i know it was making references, that's why I didn't post it here. Trump was too stupid to realize that or he was trying to deceive. The newsweek guy is a spinster, I don't need to read his second hand article.
    gotcha...I misunderstood you (dude)
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    I don't think any of this is revealing. The GOP has already convinced their sheeple that she is the devil. These emails are certainly not going to influence the dems or moderates.

    I'm an independent - I've never voted on the right.

    This evidence has convinced me to vote for Trump. I was never planning on voting for Trump- I think he's complete garbage.
    Wait, you're joking right?

    You are willing to risk throwing away every bit of forward motion hard fought by true progressives because you of an irrational hatred of Clinton? A likely majority for conservatives in the Senate, House, White House, and Supreme Court...all because Hiwwawy huwts youw feewings?

    Wait one minute. I donated a whole lot of money and time to help elect Sanders. I wanted to build on that progress we made and hopefully fine tune it. Clinton is not my fault. That's your fault.
    I recognize now that a trump presidency would do nothing for our country, other then having a shit president (wouldn't be the first) and having to wait four more years for a good president.
    Clinton's corruption is a gigantic threat to our democracy and we may never have another chance at this again. She has the DOJ, Wall Street, FBI, career politicians, and the media under her thumb. Think about that for one min. If she wants war who better then the media to spin it? She'll have Assange and Snowden silenced and I'm sure she won't be so careless next time around.

    She would have a free pass, not saying republicans are going to roll over in public, but think about the things we can't see- the Blackdoot deals - the Tarmac meetings... All of that good stuff.

    Trump on the other hand wouldn't be able to fart without the media blowing shit up. After he leaves the White House we can burn all the sheets and erase him from our memories. Shit we could probably get him impeached

    Use common sense. It's our greatest trait.
    I voted for Sanders, and donated some money to his campaign as well.
    A Trump presidency extends well beyond 4 years of a bad President, that's just common sense with the Supreme Court nominations that are on the horizon. Trump will nominate Justices that will rule against everything you care about for decades. Common sense says don't vote for that.

    To the part I bolded:
    You are paranoid and you sound like a right-winger who is afraid Obama is going to confiscate all the guns and declare himself Emperor.
    Just yesterday I told a right-winger friend of a friend on Facebook to take a chill pill because they sounded like an insane person. Speaking on the possibility of Clinton being elected he said:
    "The Republic is gone, freedom and liberty are dead. No more honor and duty, no more kumbaya. America will be no more."

    Not paranoid at all. And the whole fear tactic is played by both party's. Clinton released pics of Obama in Muslim garments. She was called out on it again during the debate and didn't fight the accusation, for the second time.
    I believe we wont get another stab at this since Clinton wont make these same mistakes again. People who expose this corruption will have a much harder time gaining access, and I'm sure Clinton will come down hard on whistleblowers. She is a bigger threat to our democracy then Trump can ever be. Her behavior and untrustworthiness is off the charts and doesn't deserve to hold the highest office. I wont give her that prize. Trump will probably be impeached or would have to step down because of lawsuits. We can make a real mess of his presidency. I prefer that to having someone who is going to make the corruption bigger. That's not conspiracy talk.

    The SJ is something I too am concerned about. But that alone wont convince me to vote for her. We'll have to make sure we elect progressives this election cycle to put up a fight against a bad nomination. Besides Dems and Reps are basically the same thing.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    I don't think any of this is revealing. The GOP has already convinced their sheeple that she is the devil. These emails are certainly not going to influence the dems or moderates.

    I'm an independent - I've never voted on the right.

    This evidence has convinced me to vote for Trump. I was never planning on voting for Trump- I think he's complete garbage.
    Wait, you're joking right?

    You are willing to risk throwing away every bit of forward motion hard fought by true progressives because you of an irrational hatred of Clinton? A likely majority for conservatives in the Senate, House, White House, and Supreme Court...all because Hiwwawy huwts youw feewings?

    Wait one minute. I donated a whole lot of money and time to help elect Sanders. I wanted to build on that progress we made and hopefully fine tune it. Clinton is not my fault. That's your fault.
    I recognize now that a trump presidency would do nothing for our country, other then having a shit president (wouldn't be the first) and having to wait four more years for a good president.
    Clinton's corruption is a gigantic threat to our democracy and we may never have another chance at this again. She has the DOJ, Wall Street, FBI, career politicians, and the media under her thumb. Think about that for one min. If she wants war who better then the media to spin it? She'll have Assange and Snowden silenced and I'm sure she won't be so careless next time around.

    She would have a free pass, not saying republicans are going to roll over in public, but think about the things we can't see- the Blackdoot deals - the Tarmac meetings... All of that good stuff.

    Trump on the other hand wouldn't be able to fart without the media blowing shit up. After he leaves the White House we can burn all the sheets and erase him from our memories. Shit we could probably get him impeached

    Use common sense. It's our greatest trait.
    I voted for Sanders, and donated some money to his campaign as well.
    A Trump presidency extends well beyond 4 years of a bad President, that's just common sense with the Supreme Court nominations that are on the horizon. Trump will nominate Justices that will rule against everything you care about for decades. Common sense says don't vote for that.

    To the part I bolded:
    You are paranoid and you sound like a right-winger who is afraid Obama is going to confiscate all the guns and declare himself Emperor.
    Just yesterday I told a right-winger friend of a friend on Facebook to take a chill pill because they sounded like an insane person. Speaking on the possibility of Clinton being elected he said:
    "The Republic is gone, freedom and liberty are dead. No more honor and duty, no more kumbaya. America will be no more."

    Not paranoid at all. And the whole fear tactic is played by both party's. Clinton released pics of Obama in Muslim garments. She was called out on it again during the debate and didn't fight the accusation, for the second time.
    I believe we wont get another stab at this since Clinton wont make these same mistakes again. People who expose this corruption will have a much harder time gaining access, and I'm sure Clinton will come down hard on whistleblowers. She is a bigger threat to our democracy then Trump can ever be. Her behavior and untrustworthiness is off the charts and doesn't deserve to hold the highest office. I wont give her that prize. Trump will probably be impeached or would have to step down because of lawsuits. We can make a real mess of his presidency. I prefer that to having someone who is going to make the corruption bigger. That's not conspiracy talk.

    The SJ is something I too am concerned about. But that alone wont convince me to vote for her. We'll have to make sure we elect progressives this election cycle to put up a fight against a bad nomination. Besides Dems and Reps are basically the same thing.
    Hahahaha yeah, they sure are!
    Except for their stances on nearly every single issue lol
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,147
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-hillary-clinton-is-the-right-choice-for-progressives/2016/10/11/e5e58c9c-8f2f-11e6-a6a3-d50061aa9fae_story.html?utm_term=.20bd77a5b67f
    ...At the same time, though, it’s important for progressives to recognize just how far we’ve come. Since her last campaign eight years ago, Clinton has moved considerably to the left on a number of issues in response to movements for change. In the first debate, when the stakes were at their highest, she talked about her commitment to affordable college, Medicare for all, and combatting institutional racism. That is something to celebrate. As president, she will fight for paid family leave, affordable child care, and a woman’s right to choose. We can have disagreements and still believe that she is going to move us forward.

    For progressives who remain wary of Clinton, the answer is not to vote for a third-party candidate. While he gets some issues right, Johnson’s economic plan is a more extreme version of the Republican economic agenda, and he seems totally ignorant of world affairs. Stein has helped advance many progressive issues, but until we make the electoral reforms needed to open up the two-party system, neither the Greens nor other third parties can truly serve as an effective vehicle for their ideas. And voting for either Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson or Green Party candidate Jill Stein is a poor way to send a message when there is any chance, no matter how small, that it could lead to a President Trump.

    Clinton is clearly the best candidate in the race. She also offers progressives the best chance to advance our issues and vision for the country — but only if we keep applying pressure and holding her accountable. As the Nation wrote last week, “Over the past eight years, progressives have learned the hard way that voting for hope and change doesn’t always deliver hope and change. So while voting for Clinton may be necessary, it is hardly sufficient.” That’s why, the day after we elect her president, we must redouble our efforts to push for the platform that progressives helped create.

    Take it from Sanders himself. “On many, many issues, her views are progressive. In many areas, they are awesome,” he recently said of Clinton. “Where they’re not progressive, we’ve got to push her.”
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    JC29856 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    JC29856 said:

    Here is the leak email that Trump read aloud and that Dem spinsters are falsely claiming are fake.

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2038

    that whole thing read as a copy paste OF the article. not as words directly from either podesta or blumanthal
    Correct as reference.
    and presented AS words directly spoken/written by either of those two men by Trump.
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