pipe bomb explodes at military race in new jersey and now a bomb explodes in nyc

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Just as long as you guys agree to do that at the next shooting and don't immediately call for ar15 bans.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    unsung said:

    Just as long as you guys agree to do that at the next shooting and don't immediately call for ar15 bans.

    What purpose does an AR15 serve in the hands of the public?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited September 2016
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    It would be nice if we could all just wait and see what an investigation yields.

    At the risk of being wrong, it's a pretty safe assumption these days.
    Oh? How do you figure? Not looking to minimize terrorist attacks or anything, but I am always interested in the real risk vs the assumed risk....
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJ_Soul said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    It would be nice if we could all just wait and see what an investigation yields.

    At the risk of being wrong, it's a pretty safe assumption these days.
    Oh? How do you figure? Not looking to minimize terrorist attacks or anything, but I am always interested in the real risk vs the assumed risk....
    Do you think it's probably some other group/individual? Why don't you throw a reasonable alternative so that people making assumptions should pause before they do?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    Godfather. said:

    muslim radicals' ? I'd bet on it....probably just the that "small percentage" of immigrants. I have to call it like I see it and this is just
    too common to be called a "coincidence" everybody thinks it but are afraid to say it.

    Godfather.


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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    edited September 2016
    unsung said:

    josevolution said:

    Godfather. said:

    muslim radicals' ? I'd bet on it....probably just the that "small percentage" of immigrants. I have to call it like I see it and this is just
    too common to be called a "coincidence" everybody thinks it but are afraid to say it.

    Godfather.

    Damn it took you longer than usual to blame the Muslims I thought you would of called it last night , you're loosing a step GF !!
    Reports from Minnesota stabbing was that they were yelling Allah akbar.
    fuck. two bombings and a really bad stabbing while yelling "allah" all during the same night; I don't believe in coincidences!
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited September 2016
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    It would be nice if we could all just wait and see what an investigation yields.

    At the risk of being wrong, it's a pretty safe assumption these days.
    Oh? How do you figure? Not looking to minimize terrorist attacks or anything, but I am always interested in the real risk vs the assumed risk....
    Do you think it's probably some other group/individual? Why don't you throw a reasonable alternative so that people making assumptions should pause before they do?
    I have no idea. TBH, when I first read about the explosion my first thought was "jilted lover" because I have seen stories about this being a somewhat common thing, where some nut job whose girlfriend or wife kicked him out tries to burn down their apartment building, and I know this because that exact thing happened in an apartment building where I lived back in the 90s.
    But after reading about another reason bomb... I still have no idea. I think domestic terrorism is just as likely. I have to honestly say that while of course it's one of the main options, and perhaps what's happened in NYC, my mind doesn't just automatically jump to Islamic terrorism when these kinds of events occur, as though that is by far the most likely culprit.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    They're running away with the scoring title right now, PJSoul.

    Jilted lover? Blowing randoms up versus killing his ex? Not near as likely as some brainwashed idiot following suit.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    PJ_Soul said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    It would be nice if we could all just wait and see what an investigation yields.

    At the risk of being wrong, it's a pretty safe assumption these days.
    Oh? How do you figure? Not looking to minimize terrorist attacks or anything, but I am always interested in the real risk vs the assumed risk....
    Do you think it's probably some other group/individual? Why don't you throw a reasonable alternative so that people making assumptions should pause before they do?
    I have no idea. TBH, when I first read about the explosion my first thought was "jilted lover" because I have seen stories about this being a somewhat common thing, where some nut job whose girlfriend or wife kicked him out tries to burn down their apartment building, and I know this because that exact thing happened in an apartment building where I lived back in the 90s.
    But after reading about another reason bomb... I still have no idea. I think domestic terrorism is just as likely. I have to honestly say that while of course it's one of the main options, and perhaps what's happened in NYC, my mind doesn't just automatically jump to Islamic terrorism when these kinds of events occur, as though that is by far the most likely culprit.
    jilted lover using pipe bombs and pressure cooker bombs? I've never heard of that happening before.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    They're running away with the scoring title right now, PJSoul.

    Jilted lover? Blowing randoms up versus killing his ex? Not near as likely as some brainwashed idiot following suit.

    No, I'm not saying I think that with more info, nor that that is a likely scenario in general. I meant when I first heard about it, like minutes after, it crossed my mind because it sounded like the target was an apartment building, and when it's a residential target, the chances are higher that it's a personal thing.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited September 2016
    mcgruff10 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    It would be nice if we could all just wait and see what an investigation yields.

    At the risk of being wrong, it's a pretty safe assumption these days.
    Oh? How do you figure? Not looking to minimize terrorist attacks or anything, but I am always interested in the real risk vs the assumed risk....
    Do you think it's probably some other group/individual? Why don't you throw a reasonable alternative so that people making assumptions should pause before they do?
    I have no idea. TBH, when I first read about the explosion my first thought was "jilted lover" because I have seen stories about this being a somewhat common thing, where some nut job whose girlfriend or wife kicked him out tries to burn down their apartment building, and I know this because that exact thing happened in an apartment building where I lived back in the 90s.
    But after reading about another reason bomb... I still have no idea. I think domestic terrorism is just as likely. I have to honestly say that while of course it's one of the main options, and perhaps what's happened in NYC, my mind doesn't just automatically jump to Islamic terrorism when these kinds of events occur, as though that is by far the most likely culprit.
    jilted lover using pipe bombs and pressure cooker bombs? I've never heard of that happening before.
    I didn't say that's ever happened, and didn't suggest that might be the case here.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJ_Soul said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    It would be nice if we could all just wait and see what an investigation yields.

    At the risk of being wrong, it's a pretty safe assumption these days.
    Oh? How do you figure? Not looking to minimize terrorist attacks or anything, but I am always interested in the real risk vs the assumed risk....
    Do you think it's probably some other group/individual? Why don't you throw a reasonable alternative so that people making assumptions should pause before they do?
    I have no idea. TBH, when I first read about the explosion my first thought was "jilted lover" because I have seen stories about this being a somewhat common thing, where some nut job whose girlfriend or wife kicked him out tries to burn down their apartment building, and I know this because that exact thing happened in an apartment building where I lived back in the 90s.
    But after reading about another reason bomb... I still have no idea. I think domestic terrorism is just as likely. I have to honestly say that while of course it's one of the main options, and perhaps what's happened in NYC, my mind doesn't just automatically jump to Islamic terrorism when these kinds of events occur, as though that is by far the most likely culprit.
    jilted lover using pipe bombs and pressure cooker bombs? I've never heard of that happening before.
    I didn't say that's ever happened, and didn't suggest that might be the case here.
    Well come on, man.

    You're confusing scruffy and I. With scruffy... that's not hard to do, but when you factor in genius here... you might want to think about what you said.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    unsung said:

    Just as long as you guys agree to do that at the next shooting and don't immediately call for ar15 bans.

    That has nothing to do with waiting g for an investigation.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    http://nypost.com/2016/09/18/there-will-be-more-chilling-911-call-after-the-chelsea-explosion/


    Let's all keep,jumping to conclusions.

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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Degeneratefk said:

    http://nypost.com/2016/09/18/there-will-be-more-chilling-911-call-after-the-chelsea-explosion/


    Let's all keep,jumping to conclusions.

    Meanwhile, sources said investigators were “vetting” an online Tumblr page on which someone claiming to be “the NY Bomber” took responsibility for the blast and said the motive was a response to anti-gay “violence and oppression.”

    “I did it because I cannot stand society. I cannot live in a world where homosexuals like myself as well as the rest of the LGBTQ+ community are looked down upon by society,” one post says.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    Degeneratefk said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    http://nypost.com/2016/09/18/there-will-be-more-chilling-911-call-after-the-chelsea-explosion/


    Let's all keep,jumping to conclusions.

    Meanwhile, sources said investigators were “vetting” an online Tumblr page on which someone claiming to be “the NY Bomber” took responsibility for the blast and said the motive was a response to anti-gay “violence and oppression.”

    “I did it because I cannot stand society. I cannot live in a world where homosexuals like myself as well as the rest of the LGBTQ+ community are looked down upon by society,” one post says.
    So they attack a pretty gay area of New York. That doesn't make a ton of sense
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Is that kind of like what happened in Orlando?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    Degeneratefk said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    http://nypost.com/2016/09/18/there-will-be-more-chilling-911-call-after-the-chelsea-explosion/


    Let's all keep,jumping to conclusions.

    Meanwhile, sources said investigators were “vetting” an online Tumblr page on which someone claiming to be “the NY Bomber” took responsibility for the blast and said the motive was a response to anti-gay “violence and oppression.”

    “I did it because I cannot stand society. I cannot live in a world where homosexuals like myself as well as the rest of the LGBTQ+ community are looked down upon by society,” one post says.
    did you purposely leave out this part of the article?:
    In another new wrinkle, a hand-written letter, a portion of which is in Arabic, was found inside a plastic bag that held the second device, sources said.

    Cops were interviewing two men who claim to have spotted a potential person of interest in the case, sources said.

    The witnesses were dining at the Krush bar and grill on 32nd Street about a half-hour before the 8:30 p.m. Saturday explosion when they saw an Arab-looking man who was carrying a suitcase and appeared out of place, sources said.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    PJ_Soul said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    It would be nice if we could all just wait and see what an investigation yields.

    At the risk of being wrong, it's a pretty safe assumption these days.
    Oh? How do you figure? Not looking to minimize terrorist attacks or anything, but I am always interested in the real risk vs the assumed risk....
    Do you think it's probably some other group/individual? Why don't you throw a reasonable alternative so that people making assumptions should pause before they do?
    I have no idea. TBH, when I first read about the explosion my first thought was "jilted lover" because I have seen stories about this being a somewhat common thing, where some nut job whose girlfriend or wife kicked him out tries to burn down their apartment building, and I know this because that exact thing happened in an apartment building where I lived back in the 90s.
    But after reading about another reason bomb... I still have no idea. I think domestic terrorism is just as likely. I have to honestly say that while of course it's one of the main options, and perhaps what's happened in NYC, my mind doesn't just automatically jump to Islamic terrorism when these kinds of events occur, as though that is by far the most likely culprit.
    jilted lover using pipe bombs and pressure cooker bombs? I've never heard of that happening before.
    I didn't say that's ever happened, and didn't suggest that might be the case here.
    then what the heck does this mean?
    "I have no idea. TBH, when I first read about the explosion my first thought was "jilted lover" because I have seen stories about this being a somewhat common thing, where some nut job whose girlfriend or wife kicked him out tries to burn down their apartment building, and I know this because that exact thing happened in an apartment building where I lived back in the 90s."
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    edited September 2016
    hedonist said:

    Is that kind of like what happened in Orlando?

    Yeah, I guess you're right. Though that dude seemed to be angry at being gay though

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