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  • unsung
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    brianlux said:

    unsung said:

    g under p said:

    Hillary amazes me, she finds a way to chip away at her lead.

    Peace

    I think she's going to lose.
    I hope they both lose... but of course she or The Donald will win.

    Either way, WE are going to lose.
    Now that we can agree upon.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    edited September 2016
    brianlux said:

    ^^^ "I'm very proud that I was a Goldwater girl." Most of you are too young perhaps to understand how revealing this is. And then there's all the rest of the switcheroo going on in the last few to several years. Watch the video.

    We need new candidates, period.

    How is it revealing? Do you think she was the only person to follow the political leads of their parents as a youngster? She was 17 during the '64 election, not even old enough to vote. Was every single one of your decisions under 18 very revealing of you today (assuming she even made that decision vs. her parents)? Give her a fucking break already.

    Oh and I just checked, she would have turned 17 a week before the election, so she was a high school junior for chrissakes.
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  • unsung
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    Why do we need a President?

    It's really a waste if you think about it.
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    Hillary Clinton’s Backers Thought She Couldn’t Lose. Now, ‘I Can’t Go There.’

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  • ledvedderman
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    unsung said:

    Why do we need a President?

    It's really a waste if you think about it.

    I mean, if you really think that way you could change your profile photo. Nah. You only find it useful if your candidate gets it.
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  • brianlux
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    edited September 2016
    unsung said:

    Why do we need a President?

    It's really a waste if you think about it.

    I am 100% behind this and I've been saying it for some time. Thank you, unsung for unwittingly helping us form good government!

    My proposal all along is that we have a head of state who represents who we are and makes us look good but who has no power over legislation or law. Someone who makes us look good. Someone who is cool and charismatic. Or, for that matter, someone bad. You know, if we want to be a nation of misogynistic, racists, let some guy like The Donald be our head of state. No power other than the power to embarrass us into getting that first choice back- someone cool who makes us look good when we decide to be wise, kind, generous, etc.

    Meanwhile, let a committee of elders who have proven to be endowed with wisdom, a kind and generous heart, clear and knowledgeable thinking and a firm resolve replace our current Executive branch (that business like term sucks anyway) who will advise the Judiciary and Legislative branches in making decisions that are good for the people and good for the planet.

    It's time we straighten this shit out.
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • unsung
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    edited September 2016
    ledvedderman said:

    unsung said:

    Why do we need a President?

    It's really a waste if you think about it.

    I mean, if you really think that way you could change your profile photo. Nah. You only find it useful if your candidate gets it.
    He's the last Statesman. The last deserved of my vote.

    He ran on the idea that the only reason to be in politics would be to increase liberty and reduce laws, not to increase the surveillance state and tax state and war state like your buddy has done.
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  • josevolution
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    edited September 2016
    I think the argument that we don't need a government or president is one giant fucking pipe dream ok so let's just put that to sleep , for the believers of that pipe dream how do you propose to get it done !!! Yeah we're screwed but I believe the damage to the country will be way worse with him running the show imho ...
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    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • unsung
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    edited September 2016
    josevolution said:

    I think the argument that we don't need a government or president is one giant fucking pipe dream ok so let's just put that to sleep , for the believers of that pipe dream how do you propose to get it done !!! Yeah we're screwed but I believe the damage to the country will be way worse with him running the show imho ...

    You admit we're screwed but then say we can't get rid of what is screwing us.

    That's Stockholm Syndrome.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    unsung said:

    ledvedderman said:

    unsung said:

    Why do we need a President?

    It's really a waste if you think about it.

    I mean, if you really think that way you could change your profile photo. Nah. You only find it useful if your candidate gets it.
    He's the last Statesman. The last deserved of my vote.

    He ran on the idea that the only reason to be in politics would be to increase liberty and reduce laws, not to increase the surveillance state and tax state and war state like your buddy has done.
    Who is the last statesman?
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    What do you want us to become, the taliban? Jesus, for some who are so adament about the sacred constitution and 2nd amendment rights to advocate elimination of the chief executive, the commander in chief and branch? Change your avatar to Unhinged. Jeesh.
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  • unsung
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    Quit worshipping a King.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    unsung said:

    Quit worshipping a King.

    Executive orders got you down?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    unsung said:

    Quit worshipping a King.

    Stop worshipping false prophets.
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  • JC29856
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    New evidence is emerging that Hillary Clinton’s campaign was, in fact, responsible for spreading the original Birther conspiracy theory in 2008, which alleged that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and therefore potentially ineligible for the presidency.

    Though Hillary Clinton — and the media — furiously denied that charge after it was made by Republican nominee Donald Trump on Friday morning, editor James Asher remembered Clinton aide Sidney Blumenthal spreading the rumor.

    Asher, the former Washington, D.C. bureau chief for McClatchy, tweeted on Thursday evening in response to Hillary Clinton:

    @HillaryClinton So why did your man #sidblumenthal spread the #obama birther rumor to me in 2008, asking us to investigate? Remember?
  • ledvedderman
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    So we just had a pipeline burst in the south and your biggest concern is who really started the birther movement? Awesome.
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    ledvedderman said:

    So we just had a pipeline burst in the south and your biggest concern is who really started the birther movement? Awesome.

    Hillary Clinton said Friday there’s no “erasing” the “birther” issue for Donald Trump, saying the GOP presidential nominee’s campaign was founded on the “outrageous lie” that President Obama was not born in the United States.

    “We know who Donald is. For five years, he has led the birther movement to delegitimize our first black president,” Mrs. Clinton said at an event in Washington, D.C.

    “His campaign was founded on this outrageous lie,” she said. “There is no erasing it in history. Just yesterday, Trump again refused to say with his own words that the president was born in the United States. Now, Donald’s advisers have a temerity to say he’s doing the country a service by pushing these lies.

    “No, he isn’t,” she said. “He is feeding into the worst impulses — the bigotry and bias that lurks in our country.”

    “Barack Obama was born in America, plain and simple, and Donald Trump owes him and the American people an apology,” she said.

    “Donald Trump looks at President Obama after eight years as our president — he still doesn’t see him as an American. Think of how dangerous that is,” she said. “Imagine a person in the Oval Office who traffics in conspiracy theories and refuses to let them go no matter what the facts are.”
  • ledvedderman
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    JC29856 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    So we just had a pipeline burst in the south and your biggest concern is who really started the birther movement? Awesome.

    Hillary Clinton said Friday there’s no “erasing” the “birther” issue for Donald Trump, saying the GOP presidential nominee’s campaign was founded on the “outrageous lie” that President Obama was not born in the United States.

    “We know who Donald is. For five years, he has led the birther movement to delegitimize our first black president,” Mrs. Clinton said at an event in Washington, D.C.

    “His campaign was founded on this outrageous lie,” she said. “There is no erasing it in history. Just yesterday, Trump again refused to say with his own words that the president was born in the United States. Now, Donald’s advisers have a temerity to say he’s doing the country a service by pushing these lies.

    “No, he isn’t,” she said. “He is feeding into the worst impulses — the bigotry and bias that lurks in our country.”

    “Barack Obama was born in America, plain and simple, and Donald Trump owes him and the American people an apology,” she said.

    “Donald Trump looks at President Obama after eight years as our president — he still doesn’t see him as an American. Think of how dangerous that is,” she said. “Imagine a person in the Oval Office who traffics in conspiracy theories and refuses to let them go no matter what the facts are.”
    Sooooo it really matters to you that much?
    Do I think some douche bag staffer for Hillary made claims? Yes. Has she spent the past 6+ years beating that dead horse to get attention on herself? No.

    Care about important issues, man. You're giving educated voters a bad name.
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  • BS44325
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    ledvedderman said:

    JC29856 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    So we just had a pipeline burst in the south and your biggest concern is who really started the birther movement? Awesome.

    Hillary Clinton said Friday there’s no “erasing” the “birther” issue for Donald Trump, saying the GOP presidential nominee’s campaign was founded on the “outrageous lie” that President Obama was not born in the United States.

    “We know who Donald is. For five years, he has led the birther movement to delegitimize our first black president,” Mrs. Clinton said at an event in Washington, D.C.

    “His campaign was founded on this outrageous lie,” she said. “There is no erasing it in history. Just yesterday, Trump again refused to say with his own words that the president was born in the United States. Now, Donald’s advisers have a temerity to say he’s doing the country a service by pushing these lies.

    “No, he isn’t,” she said. “He is feeding into the worst impulses — the bigotry and bias that lurks in our country.”

    “Barack Obama was born in America, plain and simple, and Donald Trump owes him and the American people an apology,” she said.

    “Donald Trump looks at President Obama after eight years as our president — he still doesn’t see him as an American. Think of how dangerous that is,” she said. “Imagine a person in the Oval Office who traffics in conspiracy theories and refuses to let them go no matter what the facts are.”
    Sooooo it really matters to you that much?
    Do I think some douche bag staffer for Hillary made claims? Yes. Has she spent the past 6+ years beating that dead horse to get attention on herself? No.

    Care about important issues, man. You're giving educated voters a bad name.
    I think you are missing the point of these posts. It is not that any of this matters because surely it doesn't in the grand scheme of things. The point of these posts is that the Clinton campaign's attacks on Trump will always fall short because everything they accuse him of Hillary was accused of the same by Obama only 8 years earlier. It is why her likeability numbers remain so low. She needs to move away from attacks and sell herself along with a vision for the country.
  • mrussel1
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    BS44325 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    JC29856 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    So we just had a pipeline burst in the south and your biggest concern is who really started the birther movement? Awesome.

    Hillary Clinton said Friday there’s no “erasing” the “birther” issue for Donald Trump, saying the GOP presidential nominee’s campaign was founded on the “outrageous lie” that President Obama was not born in the United States.

    “We know who Donald is. For five years, he has led the birther movement to delegitimize our first black president,” Mrs. Clinton said at an event in Washington, D.C.

    “His campaign was founded on this outrageous lie,” she said. “There is no erasing it in history. Just yesterday, Trump again refused to say with his own words that the president was born in the United States. Now, Donald’s advisers have a temerity to say he’s doing the country a service by pushing these lies.

    “No, he isn’t,” she said. “He is feeding into the worst impulses — the bigotry and bias that lurks in our country.”

    “Barack Obama was born in America, plain and simple, and Donald Trump owes him and the American people an apology,” she said.

    “Donald Trump looks at President Obama after eight years as our president — he still doesn’t see him as an American. Think of how dangerous that is,” she said. “Imagine a person in the Oval Office who traffics in conspiracy theories and refuses to let them go no matter what the facts are.”
    Sooooo it really matters to you that much?
    Do I think some douche bag staffer for Hillary made claims? Yes. Has she spent the past 6+ years beating that dead horse to get attention on herself? No.

    Care about important issues, man. You're giving educated voters a bad name.
    I think you are missing the point of these posts. It is not that any of this matters because surely it doesn't in the grand scheme of things. The point of these posts is that the Clinton campaign's attacks on Trump will always fall short because everything they accuse him of Hillary was accused of the same by Obama only 8 years earlier. It is why her likeability numbers remain so low. She needs to move away from attacks and sell herself along with a vision for the country.
    You are drawing a false equivalency. A campaign staffer making a claim (that got that person fired) is not the same as the candidate. And if you believe the ex-McClatchy person (who knows who that is or what their motivation is), that is also not the same. Has Hillary ever said a word about it? NO. Did Hillary partner with Sheriff Joe to investigate? No. Did Hillary go on tv and the twitter and talk about it? No. Did Hillary serve said "usurper" in his cabinet? Yes. Does the "usurper" support and campaign for Hillary? Yes.

    This whole line of argument by Trump, BSxx, JCxxx and all the rest is the biggest fucking bunch of bullshit ever and you are total suckers for parroting the lie. Next, someone like JCxxx is going to claim that HRC killed JFK jr. Oh wait.... that person already did.
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