Trump

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

mrussel1 said:

lukin2006 said:

mrussel1 said:

lukin2006 said:

brianlux said:

lukin2006 said:

brianlux said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

brianlux said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
This video is hilarious.
It's also hilarious because you think the supporters portrayed are as real as the video.

um, those ARE real trump supporters. they are from ohio and were brought in as part of a focus group to have them review new potential campaign ads.

I hate to say it, but they seemed very real to me. Too real. Watching the video, I actually feel sorry for a few of these people. I felt like maybe they had been cheated out of a decent education, that they might be otherwise good people who are just clueless because they were never taught any kind of critical thinking or good judgement skills. Sad, really.

i don't feel sorry for them at all. they are a product of single source news, ie, fox news network. they should be embarrassed.

Well, in some ways yes, I hear you. The thing is, they don't strike me as particularly intelligent people but even so, if they had been taught some critical thinking skills I would hope they wouldn't make such idiotic remarks and be so horribly gullible. Maybe I'm being to idealist and perhaps I give to much credence to the power of education. But how else can we explain someone like Trump getting as far as he has in American politics? Something is serious wrong (i.e., fucked up) with this country.

And who's been in charge of the education system for the vast majority of the US population, government ... which is always democrat or republican...not so sure anyone party is to blame, the democrats benefit from poorly educated, just as the republicans do ... both parties benefit from indoctrination, your countries as mine does benefits from indoctrination ... I would say its easier to indoctrinate the poorly educated and lets not kid ourselves our governments benefit by indoctrinating enough people.

In the long run I can see validity to your argument. Otherwise how would be explain the worker-bee training character that is our educational system. Never-the-less, if I'm correct, democrats tend to more more strongly for education reform. But obviously even so, that has not been enough to pull our educational system out of the meat grinder.

Let me know how that's working out with the dems being more progressive towards the education system...

Democrats are in a catch 22 on education because of the teacher's unions.

I would personally like two things to happen:

1. Allow performance based reporting for teachers (lose the under performers)
2. Substantially increase the funding for teachers' salaries so we get better, more committed teachers.

Our teachers here in Ontario are probably the highest paid in Canada and not far off world wide, many of the same complaints I here from your system is the same complaints I here from parents, teachers...so high pay had not necessarily translated to better education...but I definitely agree better pay should translate in to better grades...even better grades are not necessarily the problem, more the idea of social promotion is more of a problem.

Better pay plus performance standards. Do you have both pieces?

No they don't. Plus that "high pay" is relative. Still isn't that high for most teachers in Ontario, considering that teachers now need Masters degrees to get teaching jobs (or move to butt fuck nowhere), plus PDP. There is a higher range, but if you look into it, those numbers are always presented to make it seem like most teachers are being paid more than they generally are. I think that teachers' starting salaries should be around $70,000 CAD, and go up from there, given the high cost of living in Canada. Of course I agree that performance standards have to be in play.

Teachers, fireman, police. Problem is, who's going to pay for it? Who gets cut to give them the raise they deserve? I say let Congress pay for it with an 11% reduction in their pay.

We would do well to figure out how to do that. Although it could well be argued that they are overly-regimented and perhaps not as creative-oriented as some of us would prefer, in Japan, teachers are respected and paid the way doctors and lawyers and other higher paid professionals are and the result is that their kids are far more educated than ours.

For sure, plus the parents over there still tell their kids that they must respect and obey their teachers and listen to their input. Unlike here, where nowadays, parents fucking take their kids' side on everything. Kid gets in trouble for misbehaving? Teacher's fault. Kid fails a test? Teacher's fault. Kid generally a rotten little piece of shit? Teacher's fault. Hell, I think all teachers deserve a $20K annual bonus just for putting up with the fucking parents.

Free said:

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

mrussel1 said:

lukin2006 said:

mrussel1 said:

lukin2006 said:

brianlux said:

lukin2006 said:

brianlux said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

brianlux said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
This video is hilarious.
It's also hilarious because you think the supporters portrayed are as real as the video.

um, those ARE real trump supporters. they are from ohio and were brought in as part of a focus group to have them review new potential campaign ads.

I hate to say it, but they seemed very real to me. Too real. Watching the video, I actually feel sorry for a few of these people. I felt like maybe they had been cheated out of a decent education, that they might be otherwise good people who are just clueless because they were never taught any kind of critical thinking or good judgement skills. Sad, really.

i don't feel sorry for them at all. they are a product of single source news, ie, fox news network. they should be embarrassed.

Well, in some ways yes, I hear you. The thing is, they don't strike me as particularly intelligent people but even so, if they had been taught some critical thinking skills I would hope they wouldn't make such idiotic remarks and be so horribly gullible. Maybe I'm being to idealist and perhaps I give to much credence to the power of education. But how else can we explain someone like Trump getting as far as he has in American politics? Something is serious wrong (i.e., fucked up) with this country.

And who's been in charge of the education system for the vast majority of the US population, government ... which is always democrat or republican...not so sure anyone party is to blame, the democrats benefit from poorly educated, just as the republicans do ... both parties benefit from indoctrination, your countries as mine does benefits from indoctrination ... I would say its easier to indoctrinate the poorly educated and lets not kid ourselves our governments benefit by indoctrinating enough people.

In the long run I can see validity to your argument. Otherwise how would be explain the worker-bee training character that is our educational system. Never-the-less, if I'm correct, democrats tend to more more strongly for education reform. But obviously even so, that has not been enough to pull our educational system out of the meat grinder.

Let me know how that's working out with the dems being more progressive towards the education system...

Democrats are in a catch 22 on education because of the teacher's unions.

I would personally like two things to happen:

1. Allow performance based reporting for teachers (lose the under performers)
2. Substantially increase the funding for teachers' salaries so we get better, more committed teachers.

Our teachers here in Ontario are probably the highest paid in Canada and not far off world wide, many of the same complaints I here from your system is the same complaints I here from parents, teachers...so high pay had not necessarily translated to better education...but I definitely agree better pay should translate in to better grades...even better grades are not necessarily the problem, more the idea of social promotion is more of a problem.

Better pay plus performance standards. Do you have both pieces?

No they don't. Plus that "high pay" is relative. Still isn't that high for most teachers in Ontario, considering that teachers now need Masters degrees to get teaching jobs (or move to butt fuck nowhere), plus PDP. There is a higher range, but if you look into it, those numbers are always presented to make it seem like most teachers are being paid more than they generally are. I think that teachers' starting salaries should be around $70,000 CAD, and go up from there, given the high cost of living in Canada. Of course I agree that performance standards have to be in play.

Teachers, fireman, police. Problem is, who's going to pay for it? Who gets cut to give them the raise they deserve? I say let Congress pay for it with an 11% reduction in their pay.

We would do well to figure out how to do that. Although it could well be argued that they are overly-regimented and perhaps not as creative-oriented as some of us would prefer, in Japan, teachers are respected and paid the way doctors and lawyers and other higher paid professionals are and the result is that their kids are far more educated than ours.

For sure, plus the parents over there still tell their kids that they must respect and obey their teachers and listen to their input. Unlike here, where nowadays, parents fucking take their kids' side on everything. Kid gets in trouble for misbehaving? Teacher's fault. Kid fails a test? Teacher's fault. Kid generally a rotten little piece of shit? Teacher's fault. Hell, I think all teachers deserve a $20K annual bonus just for putting up with the fucking parents.

It's not just parents that can't accept their kids do anything wrong, it's the mentality of an entire culture in the US. No accountability, not my responsibility, it must be someone else's fault... That mentality is rampant.

Halifax2TheMax said:

Wonder what the average education attainment level in Connecticut is?

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Go Beavers said:

So they don't give grades or kick kids out of school?

They do.
It is the parents of today who are lazy and think that school is meant to not only babysit their kids but expect that a perfect brainiac child should be produced by the end of term. These are the children who fall behind because they are not given the help they need after hours with their studies.
There are multiple occasions where you are informed of your childs progress or lack of throughout the year.
Any child who is going to give catastrophic effects on the work force the blame should be squarely left on the parents.

What does this have to do with Trump?
Something about the unedumacated.

"Under those 8 years, before Obama came along, we didn't have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attack in the US," Giuliani told the crowd. "They all started when Clinton and Obama came into office."

It's not the first time Giuliani has made remarks that seemed to gloss over the terror attacks that left nearly 3,000 dead and that defined him in the eyes of many Americans. While suggesting in 2010 that Obama could stand to take some cues from George W. Bush, the former mayor claimed, "We had no domestic attacks under Bush."

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/is-trump-sick-the-trump-medical-letter-shows-every-sign-of-being-a-fake/

To offset the conspiracy theories on Clinton's health...

Gern Blansten said:

josevolution said:

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/is-trump-sick-the-trump-medical-letter-shows-every-sign-of-being-a-fake/

To offset the conspiracy theories on Clinton's health...

Damn you can't make this up he's whole campaign is fraud the man is a pathological liar !

No shit...this campaign shows you what kind of businessman he is as well. He's a fucking narcissistic moron that is lucky as hell he was born rich. I can't wait for the debates....Clinton is going to wipe her ass with Trump's toupee.

mrussel1 said:

josevolution said:

Gern Blansten said:

josevolution said:

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/is-trump-sick-the-trump-medical-letter-shows-every-sign-of-being-a-fake/

To offset the conspiracy theories on Clinton's health...

Damn you can't make this up he's whole campaign is fraud the man is a pathological liar !

No shit...this campaign shows you what kind of businessman he is as well. He's a fucking narcissistic moron that is lucky as hell he was born rich. I can't wait for the debates....Clinton is going to wipe her ass with Trump's toupee.

Yeah that is must watch TV , he'll loose his cool and say something totally derogatory !

If I were Hillary, I'd walk out, shake his hand and whisper "my...your hands really are small". I feel like that would totally set him off for the whole night.