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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,532

    If I'm doing my math correctly, no Republican presidential candidate since at least 1996 will be voting for Trump. McCain, Romney, George W. (Safe to assume). If Dole doesn't, than we are going back to '88 because H.W. is a no as well!

    Dole supports him. Not sure how.
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  • pjalive21pjalive21 Posts: 2,818
    edited October 2016
    LA Times Poll just released (arguably the most accurate poll out there) has Trump up by over 2 percentage points while the MM is pushing HRC up by 11...MM like Fox and CNN after this election cycle will be dead when it come to being trusted if it isn't already

    http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    pjalive21 said:

    LA Times Poll just released (arguably the most accurate poll out there) has Trump up by over 2 percentage points while the MM is pushing HRC up by 11...MM like Fox and CNN after this election cycle will be dead when it come to being trusted if it isn't already

    http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

    How are you arguing that it's the most accurate poll? It has had Trump up by as many as 7 this whole season. It's weighting are very similar to Rasmussen, although not as R heavy. This is an almost daily poll, btw.
  • pjalive21pjalive21 Posts: 2,818
    edited October 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    pjalive21 said:

    LA Times Poll just released (arguably the most accurate poll out there) has Trump up by over 2 percentage points while the MM is pushing HRC up by 11...MM like Fox and CNN after this election cycle will be dead when it come to being trusted if it isn't already

    http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

    How are you arguing that it's the most accurate poll? It has had Trump up by as many as 7 this whole season. It's weighting are very similar to Rasmussen, although not as R heavy. This is an almost daily poll, btw.
    hence why I said arguably...I like the daily polls (now that's a personal preference)...lets get real until the election we aren't going to be sure of anything but I don't think the gap is 11 points...I don't have a dog in this fight but I just want to real clarity

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    pjalive21 said:

    LA Times Poll just released (arguably the most accurate poll out there) has Trump up by over 2 percentage points while the MM is pushing HRC up by 11...MM like Fox and CNN after this election cycle will be dead when it come to being trusted if it isn't already

    http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

    This is a bit old, but considering LA Times has had Trump ahead the whole race, it's probably generally accurate. 538 adjusts the polls to where it sees the demographics trends and you can see that they think 538 underweights Dem voters by 4 points. LA Times poll is the last one.

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    pjalive21 said:

    LA Times Poll just released (arguably the most accurate poll out there) has Trump up by over 2 percentage points while the MM is pushing HRC up by 11...MM like Fox and CNN after this election cycle will be dead when it come to being trusted if it isn't already

    http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

    correlation or causation?
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  • The LA Times poll also states that the "who do you think will win" question is a better predictor of the eventual outcome. Hillary leads in every demographic in that category.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    The LA Times poll also states that the "who do you think will win" question is a better predictor of the eventual outcome. Hillary leads in every demographic in that category.

    The more telling data would be the follow up question: why?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    edited October 2016
    pjalive21 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    pjalive21 said:

    LA Times Poll just released (arguably the most accurate poll out there) has Trump up by over 2 percentage points while the MM is pushing HRC up by 11...MM like Fox and CNN after this election cycle will be dead when it come to being trusted if it isn't already

    http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

    How are you arguing that it's the most accurate poll? It has had Trump up by as many as 7 this whole season. It's weighting are very similar to Rasmussen, although not as R heavy. This is an almost daily poll, btw.
    hence why I said arguably...I like the daily polls (now that's a personal preference)...lets get real until the election we aren't going to be sure of anything but I don't think the gap is 11 points...I don't have a dog in this fight but I just want to real clarity

    I doubt the gap is 11 too. It's probably 9. Either way, that's a wipe out election if it holds. Trump's problem is that he did not earn one new vote Sunday night or yesterday. He is just feeding the beast... getting ready to launch the TV network.

    Edit - I've been saying for a while that I think his floor is about 38. I think he'll be testing the floor this week. And if the rumored tapes get released, that floor will really be under pressure.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    pjalive21 said:

    LA Times Poll just released (arguably the most accurate poll out there) has Trump up by over 2 percentage points while the MM is pushing HRC up by 11...MM like Fox and CNN after this election cycle will be dead when it come to being trusted if it isn't already

    http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

    Someone found one of the only polls where Trump is ahead and chooses to believe that one is the most accurate. Then goes on to try and lie to us and say they don't have a dog in the fight.

    You keep living in this fantasy and when the results come in on election night you will probably claim the election was rigged. Just like the Donald told you it would play out.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,527
    edited October 2016
    dignin said:



    pjalive21 said:

    LA Times Poll just released (arguably the most accurate poll out there) has Trump up by over 2 percentage points while the MM is pushing HRC up by 11...MM like Fox and CNN after this election cycle will be dead when it come to being trusted if it isn't already

    http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

    Someone found one of the only polls where Trump is ahead and chooses to believe that one is the most accurate. Then goes on to try and lie to us and say they don't have a dog in the fight.

    You keep living in this fantasy and when the results come in on election night you will probably claim the election was rigged. Just like the Donald told you it would play out.
    And it's not a poll, it's a survey the leans heavily towards Trump supporters.

    When properly adjusted by 538, it's Clinton by 3: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/

    C'mon people....


    (also--no reasonable people argue this is an accurate reflection of the electorate)
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331

    dignin said:



    pjalive21 said:

    LA Times Poll just released (arguably the most accurate poll out there) has Trump up by over 2 percentage points while the MM is pushing HRC up by 11...MM like Fox and CNN after this election cycle will be dead when it come to being trusted if it isn't already

    http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

    Someone found one of the only polls where Trump is ahead and chooses to believe that one is the most accurate. Then goes on to try and lie to us and say they don't have a dog in the fight.

    You keep living in this fantasy and when the results come in on election night you will probably claim the election was rigged. Just like the Donald told you it would play out.
    And it's not a poll, it's a survey the leans heavily towards Trump supporters.

    When properly adjusted by 538, it's Clinton by 3: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/

    C'mon people....


    (also--no reasonable people argue this is an accurate reflection of the electorate)
    Yeah, I know about how Nate Silver feels about the LA Times survey. He's brought it up a lot on his website and doesn't seem to be a fan of its methodology.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,553
    saw a video by Keith Olbermann last night. Good god that dude is a blow hard. his over-outrage is exhausting. when he resorted to calling trump "Feurer Trump", he lost all credibility. he's the left wing glenn beck.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,527
    dignin said:

    dignin said:



    pjalive21 said:

    LA Times Poll just released (arguably the most accurate poll out there) has Trump up by over 2 percentage points while the MM is pushing HRC up by 11...MM like Fox and CNN after this election cycle will be dead when it come to being trusted if it isn't already

    http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

    Someone found one of the only polls where Trump is ahead and chooses to believe that one is the most accurate. Then goes on to try and lie to us and say they don't have a dog in the fight.

    You keep living in this fantasy and when the results come in on election night you will probably claim the election was rigged. Just like the Donald told you it would play out.
    And it's not a poll, it's a survey the leans heavily towards Trump supporters.

    When properly adjusted by 538, it's Clinton by 3: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/

    C'mon people....


    (also--no reasonable people argue this is an accurate reflection of the electorate)
    Yeah, I know about how Nate Silver feels about the LA Times survey. He's brought it up a lot on his website and doesn't seem to be a fan of its methodology.
    When Drudge regularly touts it's numbers and ignores every other more reputable polling.....that should kind of tip people off. No?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404

    saw a video by Keith Olbermann last night. Good god that dude is a blow hard. his over-outrage is exhausting. when he resorted to calling trump "Feurer Trump", he lost all credibility. he's the left wing glenn beck.

    Yeah, he lost me years ago. He is Glenn Beck on the other side. They are just feeding their base red meat, regardless of context, measurement, reasons, etc.
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524

    saw a video by Keith Olbermann last night. Good god that dude is a blow hard. his over-outrage is exhausting. when he resorted to calling trump "Feurer Trump", he lost all credibility. he's the left wing glenn beck.

    Oh he is an over the top blowhard, but uses pesky things like facts and reason.

    Beck doesn't use any of that because his audience doesn't want it.

    So While they are extreme they aren't equivalent.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,553
    Smellyman said:

    saw a video by Keith Olbermann last night. Good god that dude is a blow hard. his over-outrage is exhausting. when he resorted to calling trump "Feurer Trump", he lost all credibility. he's the left wing glenn beck.

    Oh he is an over the top blowhard, but uses pesky things like facts and reason.

    Beck doesn't use any of that because his audience doesn't want it.

    So While they are extreme they aren't equivalent.
    this particular video had zero facts. it was all over the top nonsense.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    mrussel1 said:

    saw a video by Keith Olbermann last night. Good god that dude is a blow hard. his over-outrage is exhausting. when he resorted to calling trump "Feurer Trump", he lost all credibility. he's the left wing glenn beck.

    Yeah, he lost me years ago. He is Glenn Beck on the other side. They are just feeding their base red meat, regardless of context, measurement, reasons, etc.
    I'd have thought you'd like Glenn Beck, he prefers your candidate.

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/10/glenn-beck-electing-hillary-clinton-moral-ethical-choice/
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    unsung said:

    mrussel1 said:

    saw a video by Keith Olbermann last night. Good god that dude is a blow hard. his over-outrage is exhausting. when he resorted to calling trump "Feurer Trump", he lost all credibility. he's the left wing glenn beck.

    Yeah, he lost me years ago. He is Glenn Beck on the other side. They are just feeding their base red meat, regardless of context, measurement, reasons, etc.
    I'd have thought you'd like Glenn Beck, he prefers your candidate.

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/10/glenn-beck-electing-hillary-clinton-moral-ethical-choice/
    That just shows you how universal and deep the contempt for Donald Trump really is.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    mrussel1 said:

    saw a video by Keith Olbermann last night. Good god that dude is a blow hard. his over-outrage is exhausting. when he resorted to calling trump "Feurer Trump", he lost all credibility. he's the left wing glenn beck.

    Yeah, he lost me years ago. He is Glenn Beck on the other side. They are just feeding their base red meat, regardless of context, measurement, reasons, etc.
    I'd have thought you'd like Glenn Beck, he prefers your candidate.

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/10/glenn-beck-electing-hillary-clinton-moral-ethical-choice/
    By that logic you must have liked Alex Jones because he prefers Ron Paul, right?
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,182

    Reaction to republican leaders deserting the trumptanic....

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    HA LOL, I've seen that clip before but I prefer this version on the band Rush......

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    Btw this election is getting so exhausting, I'll need a vacation after it's over....I can't watch either one.

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,532
    pjalive21 said:

    LA Times Poll just released (arguably the most accurate poll out there) has Trump up by over 2 percentage points while the MM is pushing HRC up by 11...MM like Fox and CNN after this election cycle will be dead when it come to being trusted if it isn't already

    http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

    Yeah...my guess is that your reliability to interpret polls/surveys will be what is in question.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    The Trump Campaign Is Ready To Burn This Motherfucker Down

    My friends, the Trump campaign has decided to go full Jared Leto joker. It’s all so very deeply... twisted.

    Now that Paul Ryan has distanced himself from Trump as much as he possibly can without actually taking any sort of real stand, Donald Trump has apparently been give the green light to lose his goddamned mind
    .

    theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-trump-campaign-is-ready-to-burn-this-motherfucker-d-1787656589
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    Jason P said:

    The Trump Campaign Is Ready To Burn This Motherfucker Down

    My friends, the Trump campaign has decided to go full Jared Leto joker. It’s all so very deeply... twisted.

    Now that Paul Ryan has distanced himself from Trump as much as he possibly can without actually taking any sort of real stand, Donald Trump has apparently been give the green light to lose his goddamned mind
    .

    theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-trump-campaign-is-ready-to-burn-this-motherfucker-d-1787656589

    This should be good...

  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    This should be a comically stupid week we are all about to witness.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,532
    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    The Trump Campaign Is Ready To Burn This Motherfucker Down

    My friends, the Trump campaign has decided to go full Jared Leto joker. It’s all so very deeply... twisted.

    Now that Paul Ryan has distanced himself from Trump as much as he possibly can without actually taking any sort of real stand, Donald Trump has apparently been give the green light to lose his goddamned mind
    .

    theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-trump-campaign-is-ready-to-burn-this-motherfucker-d-1787656589

    This should be good...

    If he goes scorched earth I'm going to laugh
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Video of Paul Ryan after the Trump tweet ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsx2vdn7gpY
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Trump will be directly responsible for Hillary being the next POTUS. She should bake him a thank you cake.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Did trump really just say that the shackles have been in
    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    The Trump Campaign Is Ready To Burn This Motherfucker Down

    My friends, the Trump campaign has decided to go full Jared Leto joker. It’s all so very deeply... twisted.

    Now that Paul Ryan has distanced himself from Trump as much as he possibly can without actually taking any sort of real stand, Donald Trump has apparently been give the green light to lose his goddamned mind
    .

    theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-trump-campaign-is-ready-to-burn-this-motherfucker-d-1787656589

    This should be good...

    What is his tweet in reference to?
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    :rofl:
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