Hillary won more votes for President

Free said:

History says more than anything. It's more concrete than what he says today in his promise for the future.

Take that with a grain of salt.

We can sit here and argue about his history as a pro-lifer and as pro-choice, but I'm not going to sit around and hope that he's going to be pro-choice for our continuing future. His past is untrustworthy. He advocated for abstinence only sex education. That says a lot to me, now if he advocated for sex ed in high schools then I give him more leeway.

Please post his history of 2011 up till present please.

BS44325 said:

Degeneratefk said:

That last statement is an excellent point that is lost by most trump supporters.

The presidency is NOT an entry level position. But most trump supporters think that in order to go outside of the establishment, you need someone that has never been in politics. Not a good idea when most of his campaign revolves around foreign policy and foreign trade deals. I think trump vastly underestimates how experience in dealing with world leaders is more than just making a deal to host the miss universe pageant.

Obama had zero experience in 2008 and nobody cared. They didn't care when he ran against Hillary and they didn't care when he ran against McCain. Trump's real world experience easily outweighs both Clinton and Obama unless you think only people who have made their life inside government could possibly understand how to be President. That's just silly.

brianlux said:

mrussel1 said:

brianlux said:

Free said:

Oh, politicians are they swell? They can tell you one thing and do another. They will make promises and never act on them once elected. You've got a politician here with a history of being pro-life, yet people will eat it up that he's actually pro choice because he says he now is.

Really, guys? Think about this...

It's a loosing battle. A republican dressed as a democrat with a coal man who wavers on women's right to choose or Trump (need I say more?) or a third party candidate with basically zero chance of winning. What a mess!

Interesting that you two are okay with Sanders and his evolution on gay marriage and his votes against gun control yet try to excoriate Kaine for been pro choice and having some common sense provisions.

OMG... he wants to reduce abortions and promote adoption?? What a piece of shit he is for that stance. Jesus Christ...

When did I say that? Buddha!

BS44325 said:

Degeneratefk said:

That last statement is an excellent point that is lost by most trump supporters.

The presidency is NOT an entry level position. But most trump supporters think that in order to go outside of the establishment, you need someone that has never been in politics. Not a good idea when most of his campaign revolves around foreign policy and foreign trade deals. I think trump vastly underestimates how experience in dealing with world leaders is more than just making a deal to host the miss universe pageant.

Obama had zero experience in 2008 and nobody cared. They didn't care when he ran against Hillary and they didn't care when he ran against McCain. Trump's real world experience easily outweighs both Clinton and Obama unless you think only people who have made their life inside government could possibly understand how to be President. That's just silly.

tonifig8 said:

Kat said:

I was very impressed by Tim Kaine and his speech was terrific. He has a very deep resume and is ready to assume the Presidency if it's ever necessary, heaven forbid. His life story, which I'm glad he shared, demonstrates that he's a good man with a good heart. It sounds like his entire family shares in his efforts at public service too. This is in real opposition to the other party's nominee whose entire life seems to have been solely about self-aggrandizement and personal wealth. Wealth is fine, but philanthropy is an awesome thing once wealth has been achieved. I like people who share their wealth...and I don't believe the Presidency is an entry-level position.

It's interesting how you and so many other so-called progressives want to continue to support this ticket considering the reality that is Hillary Clinton. What a disappointment and shame

BS44325 said:

Degeneratefk said:

BS44325 said:

Degeneratefk said:

That last statement is an excellent point that is lost by most trump supporters.

The presidency is NOT an entry level position. But most trump supporters think that in order to go outside of the establishment, you need someone that has never been in politics. Not a good idea when most of his campaign revolves around foreign policy and foreign trade deals. I think trump vastly underestimates how experience in dealing with world leaders is more than just making a deal to host the miss universe pageant.

Obama had zero experience in 2008 and nobody cared. They didn't care when he ran against Hillary and they didn't care when he ran against McCain. Trump's real world experience easily outweighs both Clinton and Obama unless you think only people who have made their life inside government could possibly understand how to be President. That's just silly.

That's not true at all. If I remember correctly, he was a senator.

Being a senator for two years might look good on a resumé but it hardly makes you experienced. I believed the same about Rubio, Cruz and Rand Paul. There is a reason why that prior to the election of Obama the US has primarily elected governors. Governors make decisions while senators yap then vote while almost never having to deal with the consequences.