another "honor killing"

PJ_Soul said:

Godfather. said:

killed over what they had on ?????we don't need them here !

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-alps-resort-laragne-monteglin-stabbing-mother-daughters-clothes/

Godfather.

No, we don't need those specific individuals who are that horrible and would do something like this. That's who "them" are, right?

You know...."those people"

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

lukin2006 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

lukin2006 said:

People's frustration

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Why the frustration?
Remember this fiasco here a few years ago? http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/03/14/17610021.html

For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.

I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.

He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.

I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.

Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.

He's not infinitey better ... just does a better job of bullshiting the public. It seems to me his first priority when taking office was to usher

Honestly...

In our country, there are multiple mechanisms we have to assist people. It's hard to fail here.

If you are f**king up in Canada, you are either mentally incapable of helping yourself or you are a f**k up.
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That's pretty much a bullshit statement.

So aboriginal children are fuck ups? How are they to have a chance when many are brought up in horrendous conditions by parents who don't know better because that's all they know, these are generational issues.

The opportunities that are available to aboriginals are far greater than the rest of Canada: federal disbursements, no taxes, and free post secondary education among them.

The public sector is begging for educated First Nation people to fill cushy jobs, but the voids remain. Our local bands can't find qualified First Nation people to run their offices.

Sometimes people need to help themselves a little. I recognize the problems First Nation peoples have endured, but it's time to get going. The blacks in America had their shackles removed- no compensation, no hand outs... and the country has had a black person as it's president for the last two terms.

The Aboriginal issue has absolutely nothing to do with the refugee issue though (which is why we're talking about it). It's not like more would have been done had Trudeau not gone about getting all those refugees to safety. The Aboriginal issues is incredibly complicated, and money has very little to nothing to do with those issues at this point. Unbelievable amounts of money have been thrown at the problem, and it hasn't fixed a thing.

Sometimes people need to help themselves a little.

Godfather. said:

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Bentleyspop said:

PJ_Soul said:

Godfather. said:

killed over what they had on ?????we don't need them here !

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-alps-resort-laragne-monteglin-stabbing-mother-daughters-clothes/

Godfather.

No, we don't need those specific individuals who are that horrible and would do something like this. That's who "them" are, right?

You know...."those people"

that's my thought, the entire world is having problems with "them" the muslim immigrants so what do we do ? just keep allowing them into our countries and hope we got "a good batch" and meanwhile people keep getting killed in attacks and honor killings.....but lets not stop the "good ones" from coming into our countries....who knows who those people are ?
Trump said to stop all immigration "until we figure this out" he never said indefinitely and this is what needs to done !
and before somebody starts with the "what about the other non muslim immigrants" well sorry but you can blame muslims for a total shut down, ours and other countries need to keep safety a priority for it's citizens first !

Godfather.

No, the entire world is having problems with the radical Muslim terrorists, not the Muslim immigrants. I know you must understand why people have a problem with grouping regular people in with terrorists. Surely. Just as you know that all the "bad" Americans committing heinous acts don't make all Americans suspect. I'm sure you don't want the whole world looking at stories like the Dallas and Orlando attacks, the Oklahoma bombing, the DC Sniper, Ted Bundy, and all the murders that happen every single day of the year in America, and decide that all Americans need to be considered dangerous and kept out of other countries. Right? So why is it okay to do that to Muslims?

Godfather. said:

PJ_Soul said:

Godfather. said:

sh

Bentleyspop said:

PJ_Soul said:

Godfather. said:

killed over what they had on ?????we don't need them here !

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-alps-resort-laragne-monteglin-stabbing-mother-daughters-clothes/

Godfather.

No, we don't need those specific individuals who are that horrible and would do something like this. That's who "them" are, right?

You know...."those people"

that's my thought, the entire world is having problems with "them" the muslim immigrants so what do we do ? just keep allowing them into our countries and hope we got "a good batch" and meanwhile people keep getting killed in attacks and honor killings.....but lets not stop the "good ones" from coming into our countries....who knows who those people are ?
Trump said to stop all immigration "until we figure this out" he never said indefinitely and this is what needs to done !
and before somebody starts with the "what about the other non muslim immigrants" well sorry but you can blame muslims for a total shut down, ours and other countries need to keep safety a priority for it's citizens first !

Godfather.

No, the entire world is having problems with the radical Muslim terrorists, not the Muslim immigrants. I know you must understand why people have a problem with grouping regular people in with terrorists. Surely. Just as you know that all the "bad" Americans committing heinous acts don't make all Americans suspect. I'm sure you don't want the whole world looking at stories like the Dallas and Orlando attacks, the Oklahoma bombing, the DC Sniper, Ted Bundy, and all the murders that happen every single day of the year in America, and decide that all Americans need to be considered dangerous and kept out of other countries. Right? So why is it okay to do that to Muslims?

this is not about comparison this is about national security, the muslim faith and it's followers have proven to be a major source of terrorism around the world and if you like you may defend them all you want but I will not, it's time to call it what is and stop the pussy footing around every time says the muslims are a peace loving people(bullshit) and shira law is their right...fuck em ! not here in America.

Godfather.

Honestly, does calling a terrorist a Muslim terrorist do anything except disenfranchise other Muslims?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CceQISThDYQ

The Dalai Lama says there are ‘too many’ refugees in Europe

http://globalnews.ca/news/2734549/the-dalai-lama-says-there-are-too-many-refugees-in-europe/

Hmmm...interesting,

PJ_Soul said:

lukin2006 said:

The Dalai Lama says there are ‘too many’ refugees in Europe

http://globalnews.ca/news/2734549/the-dalai-lama-says-there-are-too-many-refugees-in-europe/

Hmmm...interesting,

Of course, countries like Greece and Germany are completely overwhelmed with refugees. It's not manageable and it makes screening impossible as well. That's why the region needs the rest of the world to step up and help. What happens "after" is rather roo up in the air to form an opinion. At the moment there is no "after". There is only a now in Syria. I would imagine that many refugees would indeed return to their homeland if it was actually safe to do so.

Then why don't the wealthy Middle East countries step up and absorb? These refugees are not every countries responsibility ... I would say regional solutions are a better choice ... but in the end it doesn't matter ... when I was in high school the Middle East was a hotbed of political discussions and that was 35 years ago, so I guess nothing has changed in that part of the world. So there is no doubt a new approach is needed, my preferred option is for us to get out of the Middle East and stay out and let them figure it out...

I can't remember if it's in that particular article but the Dala Lama also said "the refugees need to go home when the conflict is over"... which means never...because conflict in that region never ends...

This current mess with this war and ISIS was a made in the USA and Britain crisis.

Obviously the EU has taken in there fair share, has the US ... how bout the US fork over cash to all non participants of the Iraq war which had lead to a good hunk of this mess.

It actually makes sense to help Syrians in Syria. But you cannot win: any military intervention is typically met with disdain.

lukin2006 said:

^^^ I agree we can't win, but Canada did not create this current mess ... the US and Britain did, so it should be on them, but as usual the US creates the crisis then wants the rest of us to fix the problem. The Middle East will always be a crisis until all countries quit meddling...because meddling had solved nothing, let's get the fuck out, let them figure it out.

Figuring it out has meant fleeing their country- not that I can blame them.