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Or that I once went to high school (before 2009 at that)...Godfather. said:
we'll see.Cliffy6745 said:
Yeah, I agree you lost the debate tooGodfather. said:
while it's been a hoot debating this topic it has run it's course for me, nothing I or any of us say on here will change a thing and all of us are strong minded enough to stand by our own opinions...yes I am a bullheaded SOB, so we'll just have to wait to see who gets elected and what changes may or may not come and hope for the best...in our opinions LOL !benjs said:
Godfather, surely you mean all Muslim countries, correct? If that's the case, you'll need to include Saudi Arabia, since most of the hijackers in the 9/11 attacks were from there. I have to assume you'll then be okay with the probable rise in the price of oil since they are the second-largest producer of oil in the world, and the subsequent increase of cost of nearly any goods you or any other American might consume.Godfather. said:
yes but how do we separate these two groups ? how do we know who is who ? it's a very sketchy situation we have and no way to determine the good from bad......it very frustrating to say the least.PJ_Soul said:
Those things are only relevant for the people who do those things GF. Not for all Muslims. That's the whole point. Nobody is making excuses for people who commit any of the acts that you listed. Those things are inexcusable, and of course all countries should protect themselves from such criminals and psychopaths, and just stupid-ass, brainwashed assholes who are okay with Islamic extremism. But they have nothing to do with good, regular people who treat others well and live peaceful, lawful lives, like most Muslims in America do. I really wish you would stop combining these two groups. It's incredibly offensive.Godfather. said:PJ Soul, Logic ??? where was the logic on 9-11 or the Boston Marathon bombing or the shooting at the bar in FL, the shooting in San Bernardino, or killing there own women for breaking sharia law ? the sexual abuse of children ? sorry but I'm feed up.
there is logic in defending and protecting our country and the Americans that live and work here and making excuses not to do that is illogical, there should be no more chances and no excuses it is time to end the attacks and threats.
Godfather.
Godfather.
And, of course, I'm sure you won't blame the next POTUS, Hilary Clinton, when the cost of living jumps as a result, right?
Godfather.
according to a post of yours you're in high school ?
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before 2009 ?...yeah me too HAHHAHAHHAHHA !Cliffy6745 said:
Or that I once went to high school (before 2009 at that)...Godfather. said:
we'll see.Cliffy6745 said:
Yeah, I agree you lost the debate tooGodfather. said:
while it's been a hoot debating this topic it has run it's course for me, nothing I or any of us say on here will change a thing and all of us are strong minded enough to stand by our own opinions...yes I am a bullheaded SOB, so we'll just have to wait to see who gets elected and what changes may or may not come and hope for the best...in our opinions LOL !benjs said:
Godfather, surely you mean all Muslim countries, correct? If that's the case, you'll need to include Saudi Arabia, since most of the hijackers in the 9/11 attacks were from there. I have to assume you'll then be okay with the probable rise in the price of oil since they are the second-largest producer of oil in the world, and the subsequent increase of cost of nearly any goods you or any other American might consume.Godfather. said:
yes but how do we separate these two groups ? how do we know who is who ? it's a very sketchy situation we have and no way to determine the good from bad......it very frustrating to say the least.PJ_Soul said:
Those things are only relevant for the people who do those things GF. Not for all Muslims. That's the whole point. Nobody is making excuses for people who commit any of the acts that you listed. Those things are inexcusable, and of course all countries should protect themselves from such criminals and psychopaths, and just stupid-ass, brainwashed assholes who are okay with Islamic extremism. But they have nothing to do with good, regular people who treat others well and live peaceful, lawful lives, like most Muslims in America do. I really wish you would stop combining these two groups. It's incredibly offensive.Godfather. said:PJ Soul, Logic ??? where was the logic on 9-11 or the Boston Marathon bombing or the shooting at the bar in FL, the shooting in San Bernardino, or killing there own women for breaking sharia law ? the sexual abuse of children ? sorry but I'm feed up.
there is logic in defending and protecting our country and the Americans that live and work here and making excuses not to do that is illogical, there should be no more chances and no excuses it is time to end the attacks and threats.
Godfather.
Godfather.
And, of course, I'm sure you won't blame the next POTUS, Hilary Clinton, when the cost of living jumps as a result, right?
Godfather.
according to a post of yours you're in high school ?
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I don't understand what's funny. The shooting happened in 2009. I went to high school, but before the shooting. None of this makes any difference to the point you are avoiding.Godfather. said:
before 2009 ?...yeah me too HAHHAHAHHAHHA !Cliffy6745 said:
Or that I once went to high school (before 2009 at that)...Godfather. said:
we'll see.Cliffy6745 said:
Yeah, I agree you lost the debate tooGodfather. said:
while it's been a hoot debating this topic it has run it's course for me, nothing I or any of us say on here will change a thing and all of us are strong minded enough to stand by our own opinions...yes I am a bullheaded SOB, so we'll just have to wait to see who gets elected and what changes may or may not come and hope for the best...in our opinions LOL !benjs said:
Godfather, surely you mean all Muslim countries, correct? If that's the case, you'll need to include Saudi Arabia, since most of the hijackers in the 9/11 attacks were from there. I have to assume you'll then be okay with the probable rise in the price of oil since they are the second-largest producer of oil in the world, and the subsequent increase of cost of nearly any goods you or any other American might consume.Godfather. said:
yes but how do we separate these two groups ? how do we know who is who ? it's a very sketchy situation we have and no way to determine the good from bad......it very frustrating to say the least.PJ_Soul said:
Those things are only relevant for the people who do those things GF. Not for all Muslims. That's the whole point. Nobody is making excuses for people who commit any of the acts that you listed. Those things are inexcusable, and of course all countries should protect themselves from such criminals and psychopaths, and just stupid-ass, brainwashed assholes who are okay with Islamic extremism. But they have nothing to do with good, regular people who treat others well and live peaceful, lawful lives, like most Muslims in America do. I really wish you would stop combining these two groups. It's incredibly offensive.Godfather. said:PJ Soul, Logic ??? where was the logic on 9-11 or the Boston Marathon bombing or the shooting at the bar in FL, the shooting in San Bernardino, or killing there own women for breaking sharia law ? the sexual abuse of children ? sorry but I'm feed up.
there is logic in defending and protecting our country and the Americans that live and work here and making excuses not to do that is illogical, there should be no more chances and no excuses it is time to end the attacks and threats.
Godfather.
Godfather.
And, of course, I'm sure you won't blame the next POTUS, Hilary Clinton, when the cost of living jumps as a result, right?
Godfather.
according to a post of yours you're in high school ?
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I agree that it's about the money. Which is why when America is taking a strong pro-isolationism stance and in turn diplomatic relations become strained between Saudi Arabia and America, Saudi Arabia can then leverage their access to oil (which America needs) and raise the price of a barrel. All I'm asking is if you are prepared to welcome a substantially higher cost of living in exchange for keeping new Muslim immigrants out of the country. Are you also prepared for the violence which will likely erupt from the existing immigrated Muslim population, who will now feel (and become further) ostracized and isolated and disenfranchised, as a byproduct of having fewer rights than non-Muslims, and also being left in the horribly difficult position of being potentially indefinitely separated from their families living abroad.Godfather. said:
yes, oil will be sold to us regardless because it's all about money.benjs said:
I'm asking you an honest question: if you feel that the US should take a comprehensive unequivocal "no more Muslim immigrants" stance, are you prepared for the reality that this could certainly jeopardize the relationship America has with the second-largest oil producer in the world?Godfather. said:
while it's been a hoot debating this topic it has run it's course for me, nothing I or any of us say on here will change a thing and all of us are strong minded enough to stand by our own opinions...yes I am a bullheaded SOB, so we'll just have to wait to see who gets elected and what changes may or may not come and hope for the best...in our opinions LOL !benjs said:
Godfather, surely you mean all Muslim countries, correct? If that's the case, you'll need to include Saudi Arabia, since most of the hijackers in the 9/11 attacks were from there. I have to assume you'll then be okay with the probable rise in the price of oil since they are the second-largest producer of oil in the world, and the subsequent increase of cost of nearly any goods you or any other American might consume.Godfather. said:
yes but how do we separate these two groups ? how do we know who is who ? it's a very sketchy situation we have and no way to determine the good from bad......it very frustrating to say the least.PJ_Soul said:
Those things are only relevant for the people who do those things GF. Not for all Muslims. That's the whole point. Nobody is making excuses for people who commit any of the acts that you listed. Those things are inexcusable, and of course all countries should protect themselves from such criminals and psychopaths, and just stupid-ass, brainwashed assholes who are okay with Islamic extremism. But they have nothing to do with good, regular people who treat others well and live peaceful, lawful lives, like most Muslims in America do. I really wish you would stop combining these two groups. It's incredibly offensive.Godfather. said:PJ Soul, Logic ??? where was the logic on 9-11 or the Boston Marathon bombing or the shooting at the bar in FL, the shooting in San Bernardino, or killing there own women for breaking sharia law ? the sexual abuse of children ? sorry but I'm feed up.
there is logic in defending and protecting our country and the Americans that live and work here and making excuses not to do that is illogical, there should be no more chances and no excuses it is time to end the attacks and threats.
Godfather.
Godfather.
And, of course, I'm sure you won't blame the next POTUS, Hilary Clinton, when the cost of living jumps as a result, right?
Godfather.
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yes to your question, the problems with current muslims will be dealt with as they have been I'm sure, your post almost sounded like a threat of violence if muslims don't get what they want....but it's been that way along though...no surprise.benjs said:
I agree that it's about the money. Which is why when America is taking a strong pro-isolationism stance and in turn diplomatic relations become strained between Saudi Arabia and America, Saudi Arabia can then leverage their access to oil (which America needs) and raise the price of a barrel. All I'm asking is if you are prepared to welcome a substantially higher cost of living in exchange for keeping new Muslim immigrants out of the country. Are you also prepared for the violence which will likely erupt from the existing immigrated Muslim population, who will now feel (and become further) ostracized and isolated and disenfranchised, as a byproduct of having fewer rights than non-Muslims, and also being left in the horribly difficult position of being potentially indefinitely separated from their families living abroad.Godfather. said:
yes, oil will be sold to us regardless because it's all about money.benjs said:
I'm asking you an honest question: if you feel that the US should take a comprehensive unequivocal "no more Muslim immigrants" stance, are you prepared for the reality that this could certainly jeopardize the relationship America has with the second-largest oil producer in the world?Godfather. said:
while it's been a hoot debating this topic it has run it's course for me, nothing I or any of us say on here will change a thing and all of us are strong minded enough to stand by our own opinions...yes I am a bullheaded SOB, so we'll just have to wait to see who gets elected and what changes may or may not come and hope for the best...in our opinions LOL !benjs said:
Godfather, surely you mean all Muslim countries, correct? If that's the case, you'll need to include Saudi Arabia, since most of the hijackers in the 9/11 attacks were from there. I have to assume you'll then be okay with the probable rise in the price of oil since they are the second-largest producer of oil in the world, and the subsequent increase of cost of nearly any goods you or any other American might consume.Godfather. said:
yes but how do we separate these two groups ? how do we know who is who ? it's a very sketchy situation we have and no way to determine the good from bad......it very frustrating to say the least.PJ_Soul said:
Those things are only relevant for the people who do those things GF. Not for all Muslims. That's the whole point. Nobody is making excuses for people who commit any of the acts that you listed. Those things are inexcusable, and of course all countries should protect themselves from such criminals and psychopaths, and just stupid-ass, brainwashed assholes who are okay with Islamic extremism. But they have nothing to do with good, regular people who treat others well and live peaceful, lawful lives, like most Muslims in America do. I really wish you would stop combining these two groups. It's incredibly offensive.Godfather. said:PJ Soul, Logic ??? where was the logic on 9-11 or the Boston Marathon bombing or the shooting at the bar in FL, the shooting in San Bernardino, or killing there own women for breaking sharia law ? the sexual abuse of children ? sorry but I'm feed up.
there is logic in defending and protecting our country and the Americans that live and work here and making excuses not to do that is illogical, there should be no more chances and no excuses it is time to end the attacks and threats.
Godfather.
Godfather.
And, of course, I'm sure you won't blame the next POTUS, Hilary Clinton, when the cost of living jumps as a result, right?
Godfather.
Godfather.
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Violence that will likely erupt?benjs said:
I agree that it's about the money. Which is why when America is taking a strong pro-isolationism stance and in turn diplomatic relations become strained between Saudi Arabia and America, Saudi Arabia can then leverage their access to oil (which America needs) and raise the price of a barrel. All I'm asking is if you are prepared to welcome a substantially higher cost of living in exchange for keeping new Muslim immigrants out of the country. Are you also prepared for the violence which will likely erupt from the existing immigrated Muslim population, who will now feel (and become further) ostracized and isolated and disenfranchised, as a byproduct of having fewer rights than non-Muslims, and also being left in the horribly difficult position of being potentially indefinitely separated from their families living abroad.Godfather. said:
yes, oil will be sold to us regardless because it's all about money.benjs said:
I'm asking you an honest question: if you feel that the US should take a comprehensive unequivocal "no more Muslim immigrants" stance, are you prepared for the reality that this could certainly jeopardize the relationship America has with the second-largest oil producer in the world?Godfather. said:
while it's been a hoot debating this topic it has run it's course for me, nothing I or any of us say on here will change a thing and all of us are strong minded enough to stand by our own opinions...yes I am a bullheaded SOB, so we'll just have to wait to see who gets elected and what changes may or may not come and hope for the best...in our opinions LOL !benjs said:
Godfather, surely you mean all Muslim countries, correct? If that's the case, you'll need to include Saudi Arabia, since most of the hijackers in the 9/11 attacks were from there. I have to assume you'll then be okay with the probable rise in the price of oil since they are the second-largest producer of oil in the world, and the subsequent increase of cost of nearly any goods you or any other American might consume.Godfather. said:
yes but how do we separate these two groups ? how do we know who is who ? it's a very sketchy situation we have and no way to determine the good from bad......it very frustrating to say the least.PJ_Soul said:
Those things are only relevant for the people who do those things GF. Not for all Muslims. That's the whole point. Nobody is making excuses for people who commit any of the acts that you listed. Those things are inexcusable, and of course all countries should protect themselves from such criminals and psychopaths, and just stupid-ass, brainwashed assholes who are okay with Islamic extremism. But they have nothing to do with good, regular people who treat others well and live peaceful, lawful lives, like most Muslims in America do. I really wish you would stop combining these two groups. It's incredibly offensive.Godfather. said:PJ Soul, Logic ??? where was the logic on 9-11 or the Boston Marathon bombing or the shooting at the bar in FL, the shooting in San Bernardino, or killing there own women for breaking sharia law ? the sexual abuse of children ? sorry but I'm feed up.
there is logic in defending and protecting our country and the Americans that live and work here and making excuses not to do that is illogical, there should be no more chances and no excuses it is time to end the attacks and threats.
Godfather.
Godfather.
And, of course, I'm sure you won't blame the next POTUS, Hilary Clinton, when the cost of living jumps as a result, right?
Godfather.
Godfather.
You feel Muslims currently living in America teeter this close to killing their fellow countrymen in the wake of any policies implemented they find distasteful?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
I'm trying to follow Godfather logic. Today, he states that Muslims see a different way of life as inevitable and worth dying for, and are predominantly responsible for terrorist attacks. If I were Godfather, it would be a logical deduction then to assume an increase in violence in light of an America which differentiates between Muslims and non-Muslims in its immigration policy, given his perception of the volatility of the followers of Islam.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Violence that will likely erupt?benjs said:
I agree that it's about the money. Which is why when America is taking a strong pro-isolationism stance and in turn diplomatic relations become strained between Saudi Arabia and America, Saudi Arabia can then leverage their access to oil (which America needs) and raise the price of a barrel. All I'm asking is if you are prepared to welcome a substantially higher cost of living in exchange for keeping new Muslim immigrants out of the country. Are you also prepared for the violence which will likely erupt from the existing immigrated Muslim population, who will now feel (and become further) ostracized and isolated and disenfranchised, as a byproduct of having fewer rights than non-Muslims, and also being left in the horribly difficult position of being potentially indefinitely separated from their families living abroad.Godfather. said:
yes, oil will be sold to us regardless because it's all about money.benjs said:
I'm asking you an honest question: if you feel that the US should take a comprehensive unequivocal "no more Muslim immigrants" stance, are you prepared for the reality that this could certainly jeopardize the relationship America has with the second-largest oil producer in the world?Godfather. said:
while it's been a hoot debating this topic it has run it's course for me, nothing I or any of us say on here will change a thing and all of us are strong minded enough to stand by our own opinions...yes I am a bullheaded SOB, so we'll just have to wait to see who gets elected and what changes may or may not come and hope for the best...in our opinions LOL !benjs said:
Godfather, surely you mean all Muslim countries, correct? If that's the case, you'll need to include Saudi Arabia, since most of the hijackers in the 9/11 attacks were from there. I have to assume you'll then be okay with the probable rise in the price of oil since they are the second-largest producer of oil in the world, and the subsequent increase of cost of nearly any goods you or any other American might consume.Godfather. said:
yes but how do we separate these two groups ? how do we know who is who ? it's a very sketchy situation we have and no way to determine the good from bad......it very frustrating to say the least.PJ_Soul said:
Those things are only relevant for the people who do those things GF. Not for all Muslims. That's the whole point. Nobody is making excuses for people who commit any of the acts that you listed. Those things are inexcusable, and of course all countries should protect themselves from such criminals and psychopaths, and just stupid-ass, brainwashed assholes who are okay with Islamic extremism. But they have nothing to do with good, regular people who treat others well and live peaceful, lawful lives, like most Muslims in America do. I really wish you would stop combining these two groups. It's incredibly offensive.Godfather. said:PJ Soul, Logic ??? where was the logic on 9-11 or the Boston Marathon bombing or the shooting at the bar in FL, the shooting in San Bernardino, or killing there own women for breaking sharia law ? the sexual abuse of children ? sorry but I'm feed up.
there is logic in defending and protecting our country and the Americans that live and work here and making excuses not to do that is illogical, there should be no more chances and no excuses it is time to end the attacks and threats.
Godfather.
Godfather.
And, of course, I'm sure you won't blame the next POTUS, Hilary Clinton, when the cost of living jumps as a result, right?
Godfather.
Godfather.
You feel Muslims currently living in America teeter this close to killing their fellow countrymen in the wake of any policies implemented they find distasteful?'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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back pack bomber in Germany .........and he was a Migrant.....imagine that ! as much as folks don't like my idea the migrants themselves will bring on their own deportation because of their acts, soon enough fewer and fewer countries will not allow these assholes to enter then at that point they can bitch all they want.
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