Tortured and set on fire. Way to to f**kface. F**king pig. F**king subhuman mutant.
Islamic law says the victim's family can pardon the killer? So in other words... "Hey. If you're okay with it can we just move on? Are you down with this? She was just a lowly female."
Sounds about right though. People around here talk about how shitty it is to 'seek revenge' (when people are seeking justice... is there a difference?).
What's done is done. Move on, eh? Sure. Just don't torture and burn to death any more women though. Okay? Okay.
Temper temper The only way for a multicultural community to thrive is to embrace and have tolerance of all religion.
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
Yeah that was a weird article. Trudeau says that in casual conversation he doesn't have a problem with the word barbaric, but in an official government publication he wants there to be "responsible neutrality". What the hell is responsible neutrality, and why would an evolved nation be even remotely neutral about honor killings?
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
I don't think it matters either way actually, and that it's pretty damn silly to oppose removing the word or use it as some kind of weird ammunition against the PM. I think the term "barbaric" probably rattles some people because that is the term that white people used against Natives and Africans and, yes, Arabs, back in the day. It has really racist overtones. The fact that honour killings and whatnot are indeed barbaric isn't really point. I think it's just an attempt to generally avoid using racially impactful terms like that, historically speaking. It's just about trying to be culturally sensitive, which isn't a bad thing. It doesn't mean that honour killing is any more acceptable, and it doesn't send that message to anyone.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
Yeah that was a weird article. Trudeau says that in casual conversation he doesn't have a problem with the word barbaric, but in an official government publication he wants there to be "responsible neutrality". What the hell is responsible neutrality, and why would an evolved nation be even remotely neutral about honor killings?
And this is why people don't understand how liberals make you beat your head against the wall. No one know what this means. Not even liberals.
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
Yeah that was a weird article. Trudeau says that in casual conversation he doesn't have a problem with the word barbaric, but in an official government publication he wants there to be "responsible neutrality". What the hell is responsible neutrality, and why would an evolved nation be even remotely neutral about honor killings?
And this is why people don't understand how liberals make you beat your head against the wall. No one know what this means. Not even liberals.
See my last post. I feel like you guys are misinterpreting this.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
Yeah that was a weird article. Trudeau says that in casual conversation he doesn't have a problem with the word barbaric, but in an official government publication he wants there to be "responsible neutrality". What the hell is responsible neutrality, and why would an evolved nation be even remotely neutral about honor killings?
And this is why people don't understand how liberals make you beat your head against the wall. No one know what this means. Not even liberals.
See my last post. I feel like you guys are misinterpreting this.
Yep your last post makes perfect liberal sense. Thanks for clarifying.
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
He's not infinitey better ... just does a better job of bullshiting the public. It seems to me his first priority when taking office was to usher in 25000 refugees when our countries aboriginal people's are having issues of their own ...
That is why people are frustrated, not so much with the refugees ... but more important people seem to be frustrated with the lack of help for our citizens.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
I don't think it matters either way actually, and that it's pretty damn silly to oppose removing the word or use it as some kind of weird ammunition against the PM. I think the term "barbaric" probably rattles some people because that is the term that white people used against Natives and Africans and, yes, Arabs, back in the day. It has really racist overtones. The fact that honour killings and whatnot are indeed barbaric isn't really point. I think it's just an attempt to generally avoid using racially impactful terms like that, historically speaking. It's just about trying to be culturally sensitive, which isn't a bad thing. It doesn't mean that honour killing is any more acceptable, and it doesn't send that message to anyone.
I'm not feeling this. When I think of barbaric, I typically think of vikings or medieval times or Ghengis Khan.
And I also think of horrible acts like torturing and burning alive some woman. It's barbaric and if one takes offence to it... too f**king bad.
If the term fits... it fits.
* And what is that document? We have a document telling immigrants we're not down with honour killings? We need to tell people we are letting into our country that we won't tolerate their past behaviours? Really?
Btw, those who don't mind Trudeau aren't all a bunch of idiots just falling for bullshit or charm. For crying out loud. You guys seem to think every "liberal" is just a fucking moron.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
He's not infinitey better ... just does a better job of bullshiting the public. It seems to me his first priority when taking office was to usher in 25000 refugees when our countries aboriginal people's are having issues of their own ...
That is why people are frustrated, not so much with the refugees ... but more important people seem to be frustrated with the lack of help for our citizens.
Honestly...
In our country, there are multiple mechanisms we have to assist people. It's hard to fail here.
If you are f**king up in Canada, you are either mentally incapable of helping yourself or you are a f**k up.
I'm okay with lending a helping hand to people that haven't been given much of a chance based on where they were born. Just not people that think women are inferior to men.
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
I don't think it matters either way actually, and that it's pretty damn silly to oppose removing the word or use it as some kind of weird ammunition against the PM. I think the term "barbaric" probably rattles some people because that is the term that white people used against Natives and Africans and, yes, Arabs, back in the day. It has really racist overtones. The fact that honour killings and whatnot are indeed barbaric isn't really point. I think it's just an attempt to generally avoid using racially impactful terms like that, historically speaking. It's just about trying to be culturally sensitive, which isn't a bad thing. It doesn't mean that honour killing is any more acceptable, and it doesn't send that message to anyone.
I'm not feeling this. When I think of barbaric, I typically think of vikings or medieval times or Ghengis Khan.
And I also think of horrible acts like torturing and burning alive some woman. It's barbaric and if one takes offence to it... too f**king bad.
If the term fits... it fits.
* And what is that document? We have a document telling immigrants we're not down with honour killings? We need to tell people we are letting into our country that we won't tolerate their past behaviours? Really?
You may not be feeling it, but that doesn't change the fact that the word barbaric (or barbarians) has racist undertones. I personally don't "feel" the whole thug/black thing. That doesn't mean the word isn't still considered to have racist undertones. Clearly it does, whether I picture black guys when I hear the word or not.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
He's not infinitey better ... just does a better job of bullshiting the public. It seems to me his first priority when taking office was to usher in 25000 refugees when our countries aboriginal people's are having issues of their own ...
That is why people are frustrated, not so much with the refugees ... but more important people seem to be frustrated with the lack of help for our citizens.
Honestly...
In our country, there are multiple mechanisms we have to assist people. It's hard to fail here.
If you are f**king up in Canada, you are either mentally incapable of helping yourself or you are a f**k up.
I'm okay with lending a helping hand to people that haven't been given much of a chance based on where they were born. Just not people that think women are inferior to men.
I agree. FWIW, it's not like Canada can't help refugees AND help others or do other things at the same time. I think the "help _______ first" argument is just a red herring.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
I don't think it matters either way actually, and that it's pretty damn silly to oppose removing the word or use it as some kind of weird ammunition against the PM. I think the term "barbaric" probably rattles some people because that is the term that white people used against Natives and Africans and, yes, Arabs, back in the day. It has really racist overtones. The fact that honour killings and whatnot are indeed barbaric isn't really point. I think it's just an attempt to generally avoid using racially impactful terms like that, historically speaking. It's just about trying to be culturally sensitive, which isn't a bad thing. It doesn't mean that honour killing is any more acceptable, and it doesn't send that message to anyone.
I'm not feeling this. When I think of barbaric, I typically think of vikings or medieval times or Ghengis Khan.
And I also think of horrible acts like torturing and burning alive some woman. It's barbaric and if one takes offence to it... too f**king bad.
If the term fits... it fits.
* And what is that document? We have a document telling immigrants we're not down with honour killings? We need to tell people we are letting into our country that we won't tolerate their past behaviours? Really?
You may not be feeling it, but that doesn't change the fact that the word barbaric (or barbarians) has racist undertones. I personally don't "feel" the whole thug/black thing. That doesn't mean the word isn't still considered to have racist undertones. Clearly it does, whether I picture black guys when I hear the word or not.
Maybe with the really sensitive types that don't have a very good grasp of reality.
They may be sensitive, but their grasp on reality is fine.
They contort it. Taking an ancient term like 'barbaric' that has got so many contexts in so many eras and declaring it as a modern day racist term is self serving.
Anyways... you have your opinion and I have mine. I'm not budging and I know you're not so I can agree to disagree.
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
He's not infinitey better ... just does a better job of bullshiting the public. It seems to me his first priority when taking office was to usher in 25000 refugees when our countries aboriginal people's are having issues of their own ...
That is why people are frustrated, not so much with the refugees ... but more important people seem to be frustrated with the lack of help for our citizens.
Honestly...
In our country, there are multiple mechanisms we have to assist people. It's hard to fail here.
If you are f**king up in Canada, you are either mentally incapable of helping yourself or you are a f**k up.
I'm okay with lending a helping hand to people that haven't been given much of a chance based on where they were born. Just not people that think women are inferior to men.
I agree. FWIW, it's not like Canada can't help refugees AND help others or do other things at the same time. I think the "help _______ first" argument is just a red herring.
You are right Canada can help refugees and our aboriginals ... so how come we don't?
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
They may be sensitive, but their grasp on reality is fine.
They contort it. Taking an ancient term like 'barbaric' that has got so many contexts in so many eras and declaring it as a modern day racist term is self serving.
Anyways... you have your opinion and I have mine. I'm not budging and I know you're not so I can agree to disagree.
I am not serving myself in any way by saying that using the term barbaric in that context has racist undertones. And we aren't equal here. I said it doesn't matter either way IMO. You actually seem like to think the word barbaric is actually needed or something, and are bothered by it not being there. I can't fathom why it's removal would bother anyone. This would suggest that using the term would also have to be self serving, if that's how you want to look at it.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
BARBARIAN has its origins in ancient greek and was applied to anyone who did not speak that language. my how words evolve. .
Wiki puts it so much better but along the same thoughts I think of when hearing the word Barbarian/ic In idiomatic or figurative usage, a "barbarian" may also be an individual reference to a brutal, cruel, warlike, insensitive person
BARBARIAN has its origins in ancient greek and was applied to anyone who did not speak that language. my how words evolve. .
Wiki puts it so much better but along the same thoughts I think of when hearing the word Barbarian/ic In idiomatic or figurative usage, a "barbarian" may also be an individual reference to a brutal, cruel, warlike, insensitive person
They may be sensitive, but their grasp on reality is fine.
They contort it. Taking an ancient term like 'barbaric' that has got so many contexts in so many eras and declaring it as a modern day racist term is self serving.
Anyways... you have your opinion and I have mine. I'm not budging and I know you're not so I can agree to disagree.
I am not serving myself in any way by saying that using the term barbaric in that context has racist undertones. And we aren't equal here. I said it doesn't matter either way IMO. You actually seem like to think the word barbaric is actually needed or something, and are bothered by it not being there. I can't fathom why it's removal would bother anyone. This would suggest that using the term would also have to be self serving, if that's how you want to look at it.
No. I'm bothered by the fact that some want 'barbaric' replaced with something a little 'softer' so that we might not hurt somebody's feelings.
We acknowledge the fact that an act is barbaric in nature, but we don't wish to call it barbaric for fear of offending barbaric people or people that lived by barbaric people.
Quit trying to suppress words. I would have never though about "barbaric" being a racist term just like I wouldn't have thought of "thug" as a racist term. Makes me wonder if the true racists are the ones who assume these terms are racist.
Quit trying to suppress words. I would have never though about "barbaric" being a racist term just like I wouldn't have thought of "thug" as a racist term. Makes me wonder if the true racists are the ones who assume these terms are racist.
I would say they are not, lol. FTR, I am not offended by the word.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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The only way for a multicultural community to thrive is to embrace and have tolerance of all religion.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
No one know what this means.
Not even liberals.
Thanks for clarifying.
It made perfect sense.
Thank you.
sunny ways
That is why people are frustrated, not so much with the refugees ... but more important people seem to be frustrated with the lack of help for our citizens.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
And I also think of horrible acts like torturing and burning alive some woman. It's barbaric and if one takes offence to it... too f**king bad.
If the term fits... it fits.
* And what is that document? We have a document telling immigrants we're not down with honour killings? We need to tell people we are letting into our country that we won't tolerate their past behaviours? Really?
In our country, there are multiple mechanisms we have to assist people. It's hard to fail here.
If you are f**king up in Canada, you are either mentally incapable of helping yourself or you are a f**k up.
I'm okay with lending a helping hand to people that haven't been given much of a chance based on where they were born. Just not people that think women are inferior to men.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
FWIW, it's not like Canada can't help refugees AND help others or do other things at the same time. I think the "help _______ first" argument is just a red herring.
Anyways... you have your opinion and I have mine. I'm not budging and I know you're not so I can agree to disagree.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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In idiomatic or figurative usage, a "barbarian" may also be an individual reference to a brutal, cruel, warlike, insensitive person
Stop giving way to barbaric tolerance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarian
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
We acknowledge the fact that an act is barbaric in nature, but we don't wish to call it barbaric for fear of offending barbaric people or people that lived by barbaric people.
Wtf is that?
Both can't be deciphered.