another "honor killing"
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everything, you were fishing for another answer ?Cliffy6745 said:
What does "trust" have to do with those attacks? I'm not following.Godfather. said:
ahhhhh o.k.Cliffy6745 said:
Do explain...Godfather. said:
such as....?Cliffy6745 said:
I feel like this needs a bit more elaboration...Godfather. said:.knowing that not all people are evil but it's turned into a trust and risk situation and trusting islamist has ruined the lives of thousands of Americans in short amount of time already, trust is not one my stronger quality's.
Godfather.
Godfather.
"trusting islamist has ruined the lives of thousands of Americans in short amount of time already"
911, San Bernardino, Boston, Nice, France etc. etc. etc. who else straps on a body bomb and walks into a crowded public area, for crying out loud they strap very young kid's up with bombs and send them into crowded areas.
just say'n it's become to risky to trust a group of people that have caused so much death and disaster.
Godfather.
Godfather.
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Not at all. I just don't understand your logic and use of the word "trust".Godfather. said:
everything, you were fishing for another answer ?Cliffy6745 said:
What does "trust" have to do with those attacks? I'm not following.Godfather. said:
ahhhhh o.k.Cliffy6745 said:
Do explain...Godfather. said:
such as....?Cliffy6745 said:
I feel like this needs a bit more elaboration...Godfather. said:.knowing that not all people are evil but it's turned into a trust and risk situation and trusting islamist has ruined the lives of thousands of Americans in short amount of time already, trust is not one my stronger quality's.
Godfather.
Godfather.
"trusting islamist has ruined the lives of thousands of Americans in short amount of time already"
911, San Bernardino, Boston, Nice, France etc. etc. etc. who else straps on a body bomb and walks into a crowded public area, for crying out loud they strap very young kid's up with bombs and send them into crowded areas.
just say'n it's become to risky to trust a group of people that have caused so much death and disaster.
Godfather.
Godfather.
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Let's assume you're using rational if-this-then-that logical deductions, to come to your conclusions and proposed actions.Godfather. said:
ahhhhh o.k.Cliffy6745 said:
Do explain...Godfather. said:
such as....?Cliffy6745 said:
I feel like this needs a bit more elaboration...Godfather. said:.knowing that not all people are evil but it's turned into a trust and risk situation and trusting islamist has ruined the lives of thousands of Americans in short amount of time already, trust is not one my stronger quality's.
Godfather.
Godfather.
"trusting islamist has ruined the lives of thousands of Americans in short amount of time already"
911, San Bernardino, Boston, Nice, France etc. etc. etc. who else straps on a body bomb and walks into a crowded public area, for crying out loud they strap very young kid's up with bombs and send them into crowded areas.
just say'n it's become to risky to trust a group of people that have caused so much death and disaster.
Godfather.
Godfather's rationalization for the deportation of all Muslims, and the ban of further Muslim immigrants:
Premise 1: Casualties are caused by terrorists
Premise 2: Many or most terrorists are of the Muslim faith (even though the percentage of Muslims who are terrorists is low)
Premise 3: A good proportion of American Muslims have lived in America for most of or all of their lives, but even these people have been indoctrinated to hate by inherent culture-driven hatred
Conclusion: All Muslims living in America should be deported, and no further Muslims should be permitted to immigrate to America
Now, Ben's rationalization for the deportation of all men, and the ban of further male immigrants:
Premise 1: Casualties are caused by terrorists
Premise 2: Many or most terrorists are male (even though the percentage of men who are terrorists is low)
Premise 3: A good proportion of American men have lived in America for most of or all of their lives, but even these people have been indoctrinated to hate by inherent culture-driven hatred
Conclusion: All men living in America should be deported, and no further men should be permitted to immigrate to America
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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAH........geeeze ! why don't you take a vacation out in Afghanistan or Iraq and mingle with the locals and enjoy their customs I'm sure they'd love to meet you and your western ways......LOL !benjs said:
Let's assume you're using rational if-this-then-that logical deductions, to come to your conclusions and proposed actions.Godfather. said:
ahhhhh o.k.Cliffy6745 said:
Do explain...Godfather. said:
such as....?Cliffy6745 said:
I feel like this needs a bit more elaboration...Godfather. said:.knowing that not all people are evil but it's turned into a trust and risk situation and trusting islamist has ruined the lives of thousands of Americans in short amount of time already, trust is not one my stronger quality's.
Godfather.
Godfather.
"trusting islamist has ruined the lives of thousands of Americans in short amount of time already"
911, San Bernardino, Boston, Nice, France etc. etc. etc. who else straps on a body bomb and walks into a crowded public area, for crying out loud they strap very young kid's up with bombs and send them into crowded areas.
just say'n it's become to risky to trust a group of people that have caused so much death and disaster.
Godfather.
Godfather's rationalization for the deportation of all Muslims, and the ban of further Muslim immigrants:
Premise 1: Casualties are caused by terrorists
Premise 2: Many or most terrorists are of the Muslim faith (even though the percentage of Muslims who are terrorists is low)
Premise 3: A good proportion of American Muslims have lived in America for most of or all of their lives, but even these people have been indoctrinated to hate by inherent culture-driven hatred
Conclusion: All Muslims living in America should be deported, and no further Muslims should be permitted to immigrate to America
Now, Ben's rationalization for the deportation of all men, and the ban of further male immigrants:
Premise 1: Casualties are caused by terrorists
Premise 2: Many or most terrorists are male (even though the percentage of men who are terrorists is low)
Premise 3: A good proportion of American men have lived in America for most of or all of their lives, but even these people have been indoctrinated to hate by inherent culture-driven hatred
Conclusion: All men living in America should be deported, and no further men should be permitted to immigrate to America
Am I missing something, or is it true that based on Godfather's own logic, he doesn't have any more or less right to live freely in America than a Muslim?
Godfather.
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I for one would love to vacation in Afghanistan and/or Iraq.Godfather. said:
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAH........geeeze ! why don't you take a vacation out in Afghanistan or Iraq and mingle with the locals and enjoy their customs I'm sure they'd love to meet you and your western ways......LOL !benjs said:
Let's assume you're using rational if-this-then-that logical deductions, to come to your conclusions and proposed actions.Godfather. said:
ahhhhh o.k.Cliffy6745 said:
Do explain...Godfather. said:
such as....?Cliffy6745 said:
I feel like this needs a bit more elaboration...Godfather. said:.knowing that not all people are evil but it's turned into a trust and risk situation and trusting islamist has ruined the lives of thousands of Americans in short amount of time already, trust is not one my stronger quality's.
Godfather.
Godfather.
"trusting islamist has ruined the lives of thousands of Americans in short amount of time already"
911, San Bernardino, Boston, Nice, France etc. etc. etc. who else straps on a body bomb and walks into a crowded public area, for crying out loud they strap very young kid's up with bombs and send them into crowded areas.
just say'n it's become to risky to trust a group of people that have caused so much death and disaster.
Godfather.
Godfather's rationalization for the deportation of all Muslims, and the ban of further Muslim immigrants:
Premise 1: Casualties are caused by terrorists
Premise 2: Many or most terrorists are of the Muslim faith (even though the percentage of Muslims who are terrorists is low)
Premise 3: A good proportion of American Muslims have lived in America for most of or all of their lives, but even these people have been indoctrinated to hate by inherent culture-driven hatred
Conclusion: All Muslims living in America should be deported, and no further Muslims should be permitted to immigrate to America
Now, Ben's rationalization for the deportation of all men, and the ban of further male immigrants:
Premise 1: Casualties are caused by terrorists
Premise 2: Many or most terrorists are male (even though the percentage of men who are terrorists is low)
Premise 3: A good proportion of American men have lived in America for most of or all of their lives, but even these people have been indoctrinated to hate by inherent culture-driven hatred
Conclusion: All men living in America should be deported, and no further men should be permitted to immigrate to America
Am I missing something, or is it true that based on Godfather's own logic, he doesn't have any more or less right to live freely in America than a Muslim?
Godfather.
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Food is really good as well0 -
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Makes me sick to my stomach.
Tortured and set on fire. Way to to f**kface. F**king pig. F**king subhuman mutant.
Islamic law says the victim's family can pardon the killer? So in other words... "Hey. If you're okay with it can we just move on? Are you down with this? She was just a lowly female."
Sounds about right though. People around here talk about how shitty it is to 'seek revenge' (when people are seeking justice... is there a difference?).
What's done is done. Move on, eh? Sure. Just don't torture and burn to death any more women though. Okay? Okay."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Why the frustration?PJ_Soul said:
Remember this fiasco here a few years ago? http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/03/14/17610021.html
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.0 -
The frustration is with GF actually, and anyone else who approves of this "ban them all" tactic, which is obviously just a symptom of bigotry. The way he (and so many people) feel this need to discriminate against an entire people because of the actions of the worst or most extreme among them. This is not the way to deal with such things. It's the way to make things worse. Why do people do this?? Is it just pure laziness? Is it just easier to lump them together and "blanket-discriminate" than it is to really stop and think about how to solve such issues in this world? To fight against the causes of such crimes and such ways of thinking? Or is it just simplemindedness?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Why the frustration?PJ_Soul said:
Remember this fiasco here a few years ago? http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/03/14/17610021.html
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Deep breathsPJ_Soul said:
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Temper temperThirty Bills Unpaid said:Makes me sick to my stomach.
Tortured and set on fire. Way to to f**kface. F**king pig. F**king subhuman mutant.
Islamic law says the victim's family can pardon the killer? So in other words... "Hey. If you're okay with it can we just move on? Are you down with this? She was just a lowly female."
Sounds about right though. People around here talk about how shitty it is to 'seek revenge' (when people are seeking justice... is there a difference?).
What's done is done. Move on, eh? Sure. Just don't torture and burn to death any more women though. Okay? Okay.
The only way for a multicultural community to thrive is to embrace and have tolerance of all religion.0 -
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Why the frustration?PJ_Soul said:
Remember this fiasco here a few years ago? http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/03/14/17610021.html
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Yeah that was a weird article. Trudeau says that in casual conversation he doesn't have a problem with the word barbaric, but in an official government publication he wants there to be "responsible neutrality". What the hell is responsible neutrality, and why would an evolved nation be even remotely neutral about honor killings?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Why the frustration?PJ_Soul said:
Remember this fiasco here a few years ago? http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/03/14/17610021.html
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
I don't think it matters either way actually, and that it's pretty damn silly to oppose removing the word or use it as some kind of weird ammunition against the PM. I think the term "barbaric" probably rattles some people because that is the term that white people used against Natives and Africans and, yes, Arabs, back in the day. It has really racist overtones. The fact that honour killings and whatnot are indeed barbaric isn't really point. I think it's just an attempt to generally avoid using racially impactful terms like that, historically speaking. It's just about trying to be culturally sensitive, which isn't a bad thing. It doesn't mean that honour killing is any more acceptable, and it doesn't send that message to anyone.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Why the frustration?PJ_Soul said:
Remember this fiasco here a few years ago? http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/03/14/17610021.html
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
And this is why people don't understand how liberals make you beat your head against the wall.jeffbr said:
Yeah that was a weird article. Trudeau says that in casual conversation he doesn't have a problem with the word barbaric, but in an official government publication he wants there to be "responsible neutrality". What the hell is responsible neutrality, and why would an evolved nation be even remotely neutral about honor killings?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Why the frustration?PJ_Soul said:
Remember this fiasco here a few years ago? http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/03/14/17610021.html
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
No one know what this means.
Not even liberals.0 -
See my last post. I feel like you guys are misinterpreting this.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
And this is why people don't understand how liberals make you beat your head against the wall.jeffbr said:
Yeah that was a weird article. Trudeau says that in casual conversation he doesn't have a problem with the word barbaric, but in an official government publication he wants there to be "responsible neutrality". What the hell is responsible neutrality, and why would an evolved nation be even remotely neutral about honor killings?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Why the frustration?PJ_Soul said:
Remember this fiasco here a few years ago? http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/03/14/17610021.html
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
No one know what this means.
Not even liberals.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Yep your last post makes perfect liberal sense.PJ_Soul said:
See my last post. I feel like you guys are misinterpreting this.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
And this is why people don't understand how liberals make you beat your head against the wall.jeffbr said:
Yeah that was a weird article. Trudeau says that in casual conversation he doesn't have a problem with the word barbaric, but in an official government publication he wants there to be "responsible neutrality". What the hell is responsible neutrality, and why would an evolved nation be even remotely neutral about honor killings?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Why the frustration?PJ_Soul said:
Remember this fiasco here a few years ago? http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/03/14/17610021.html
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
No one know what this means.
Not even liberals.
Thanks for clarifying.0 -
It makes perfect sense. There is nothing political about what I said.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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Yep like I said.PJ_Soul said:It makes perfect sense. There is nothing political about what I said.
It made perfect sense.
Thank you.
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People's frustration
He's not infinitey better ... just does a better job of bullshiting the public. It seems to me his first priority when taking office was to usher in 25000 refugees when our countries aboriginal people's are having issues of their own ...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
He's not perfect. He was just infinitely better than the alternative. Yes. Infinitely.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Why the frustration?PJ_Soul said:
Remember this fiasco here a few years ago? http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/03/14/17610021.html
For all the americans here and TB our new happy days prime minister changed the word barbaric for some immigrants who come to feel at ease if they are offended at the word for their previous cultural practices.
I for one think barbaric should be in the guide for all those coming to Canada from places that do this evil.
I think the term is very appropriate. If an immigrant doesn't think the term is appropriate... that immigrant likely should not be seeking refugee status in Canada.
Because honour killings are barbaric and if you think they are cool... go f**k yourself.
That is why people are frustrated, not so much with the refugees ... but more important people seem to be frustrated with the lack of help for our citizens.I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon0
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