Republican Convention 2016/ Cleveland

Degeneratefk said:

Bentleyspop said:

Degeneratefk said:

How the hell could the wife of the Republican nominee for president plagiarize a speech and not think somebody won't notice? My god, you people want this fucking guy to be the president? Talk about incompetent.

Easy answer....she didn't actually write the speech.
That's what speechwriters are for.
Not surprising that someone didn't check the speech out in advance either. drumpf will just blame crooked hillary and move on.

Just like Regan didn't write "Mr. Gorbachev tear down that wall".

I know they have speechwriters. That's the point. How do you write a speech for her and clearly copy the speech from Obama without thinking someone won't notice?

I do believe I heard Melania claims to have written most of the speech. Which doesn't help her case at all.

Melania prepared for this speech for 5 weeks, there's NO WAY they didn't know they were writing similar words from Michelle's 2008 speech. To me this seems like this was done on purpose as the thing to talk about for the first night of the RNC. Look how many people are talking about this one I don't know "event". There's more to come, people will be watching to see what else will come down the line.

Peace

Shawshank said:

Yeah, who the fuck plagiarizes a speech?!? But she seems to be in good company...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgctsioisJg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqutz5ASDSA

Ha well yeah, Obama more or less owned up to it. Trump crew is doubling down.

I think there should be a new law/requirement. If you are running for President, or you are the President, you cannot have a speech writer. If you can't sit down and put your own thoughts down on paper, you should automatically be eliminated from contention or impeached lol. I mean for the love of God, Abraham Lincoln grew up in a log cabin with dirt floors and grew to become one of the great speech writers of all time. It can be done, unfortunately over the last 60 years or so, the "great words" of our Presidents, are typically created by someone else working behind the scenes.

Degeneratefk said:

Cliffy6745 said:

But can we talk about Rudy

"THEY'RE COMING TO KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Or King

"what has any other sub group contributed to society more"

That guy king is a complete moron. The anchor asked him "do you mean white people?" His reply was western civilization! Unbelievable what the right wingers think.

A completely unbelievable exchange

Jason P said:

No one is writing there own material in politics. Does anyone think W or Obama is sitting up at night with a Steno pad writing their speeches???

I think the only two politicians (and I use that word lightly) that go off the cuff are Bernie and Trump.

Obama's former speechwriter, Jon Favreau, is a good follow on Twitter and has a good podcast on the Bill Simmons network. His stories about the Nobel speech are interesting.

Jason P said:

Gutter is writing speeches?

hahah. Same name. Pretty random

Tiki said:

Cliffy6745 said:

But can we talk about Rudy

"THEY'RE COMING TO KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Or King

"what has any other sub group contributed to society more"

#makeamericasafeagain

"ARE WE CRAZY?!?!?!"

"YES!!!!!!!"

Yes, yes indeed you are...

After all the insanity from last night, I do want to note again that Marcus Lutrell was awesome.

So it seems like Palin isn't there because her kid is on trial for battery. He likes to fuck around with AR-15s while drunk too. Awesome.

Jason P said:

No one is writing there own material in politics. Does anyone think W or Obama is sitting up at night with a Steno pad writing their speeches???

I think the only two politicians (and I use that word lightly) that go off the cuff are Bernie and Trump.

No. The problem is she claimed to have pretty much written the speech herself, lol. So they can certainly blame some incompetent, stupid, idiotic speech writers, but doing so makes her a liar. So what's better? Being a thief or a liar who claims the work of others as her own?

Shawshank said:

I think there should be a new law/requirement. If you are running for President, or you are the President, you cannot have a speech writer. If you can't sit down and put your own thoughts down on paper, you should automatically be eliminated from contention or impeached lol. I mean for the love of God, Abraham Lincoln grew up in a log cabin with dirt floors and grew to become one of the great speech writers of all time. It can be done, unfortunately over the last 60 years or so, the "great words" of our Presidents, are typically created by someone else working behind the scenes.

I agree. I think all this speech writer business is ridiculous. Why in the fuck do any of us want to hear someone say a speech that was written by random people behind the scenes? We all know they do it, and for some reason we still listen to these speeches as though they really reflect the candidates' beliefs and their ability to communicate well and all the other things that we feel when we hear a good speech from someone. Why are we even listening when speech writers are coming with it?? It makes no sense unless we think that public speaking skills are the most important issue in politics.