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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Degeneratefk said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    How the hell could the wife of the Republican nominee for president plagiarize a speech and not think somebody won't notice? My god, you people want this fucking guy to be the president? Talk about incompetent.

    Easy answer....she didn't actually write the speech.
    That's what speechwriters are for.
    Not surprising that someone didn't check the speech out in advance either. drumpf will just blame crooked hillary and move on.

    Just like Regan didn't write "Mr. Gorbachev tear down that wall".
    I know they have speechwriters. That's the point. How do you write a speech for her and clearly copy the speech from Obama without thinking someone won't notice?

    I do believe I heard Melania claims to have written most of the speech. Which doesn't help her case at all.
    Melania prepared for this speech for 5 weeks, there's NO WAY they didn't know they were writing similar words from Michelle's 2008 speech. To me this seems like this was done on purpose as the thing to talk about for the first night of the RNC. Look how many people are talking about this one I don't know "event". There's more to come, people will be watching to see what else will come down the line.

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    No one is writing there own material in politics. Does anyone think W or Obama is sitting up at night with a Steno pad writing their speeches???

    I think the only two politicians (and I use that word lightly) that go off the cuff are Bernie and Trump.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Shawshank said:

    Yeah, who the fuck plagiarizes a speech?!? But she seems to be in good company...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgctsioisJg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqutz5ASDSA

    Ha well yeah, Obama more or less owned up to it. Trump crew is doubling down.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    But can we talk about Rudy

    "THEY'RE COMING TO KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    Or King

    "what has any other sub group contributed to society more"
  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    I think there should be a new law/requirement. If you are running for President, or you are the President, you cannot have a speech writer. If you can't sit down and put your own thoughts down on paper, you should automatically be eliminated from contention or impeached lol. I mean for the love of God, Abraham Lincoln grew up in a log cabin with dirt floors and grew to become one of the great speech writers of all time. It can be done, unfortunately over the last 60 years or so, the "great words" of our Presidents, are typically created by someone else working behind the scenes.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Cliffy6745 said:

    But can we talk about Rudy

    "THEY'RE COMING TO KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    Or King

    "what has any other sub group contributed to society more"

    That guy king is a complete moron. The anchor asked him "do you mean white people?" His reply was western civilization! Unbelievable what the right wingers think.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Degeneratefk said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    But can we talk about Rudy

    "THEY'RE COMING TO KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    Or King

    "what has any other sub group contributed to society more"

    That guy king is a complete moron. The anchor asked him "do you mean white people?" His reply was western civilization! Unbelievable what the right wingers think.
    A completely unbelievable exchange
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Jason P said:

    No one is writing there own material in politics. Does anyone think W or Obama is sitting up at night with a Steno pad writing their speeches???

    I think the only two politicians (and I use that word lightly) that go off the cuff are Bernie and Trump.

    Trump will fire the speech writer today for his wife's speech and then blame it on Hillary as a plant in his campaign. Being a victim his base will believe this and will be galvanized by it.....sounds brilliant. :smile:

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Jason P said:

    No one is writing there own material in politics. Does anyone think W or Obama is sitting up at night with a Steno pad writing their speeches???

    I think the only two politicians (and I use that word lightly) that go off the cuff are Bernie and Trump.

    Obama's former speechwriter, Jon Favreau, is a good follow on Twitter and has a good podcast on the Bill Simmons network. His stories about the Nobel speech are interesting.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    Gutter is writing speeches?
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Jason P said:

    Gutter is writing speeches?

    hahah. Same name. Pretty random
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Cliffy6745 said:

    But can we talk about Rudy

    "THEY'RE COMING TO KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    Or King

    "what has any other sub group contributed to society more"

    #makeamericasafeagain
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Tiki said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    But can we talk about Rudy

    "THEY'RE COMING TO KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    Or King

    "what has any other sub group contributed to society more"

    #makeamericasafeagain
    "ARE WE CRAZY?!?!?!"

    "YES!!!!!!!"

    Yes, yes indeed you are...
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    FEAR
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    After all the insanity from last night, I do want to note again that Marcus Lutrell was awesome.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    g under p said:

    Jason P said:

    No one is writing there own material in politics. Does anyone think W or Obama is sitting up at night with a Steno pad writing their speeches???

    I think the only two politicians (and I use that word lightly) that go off the cuff are Bernie and Trump.

    Trump will fire the speech writer today for his wife's speech and then blame it on Hillary as a plant in his campaign. Being a victim his base will believe this and will be galvanized by it.....sounds brilliant. :smile:

    Peace
    Do you think that her "speech writer" did this on purpose to make a mockery out of her and Trump?

    Regardless, it's hilarity it's finest and saddest.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    So it seems like Palin isn't there because her kid is on trial for battery. He likes to fuck around with AR-15s while drunk too. Awesome.
    Jason P said:

    No one is writing there own material in politics. Does anyone think W or Obama is sitting up at night with a Steno pad writing their speeches???

    I think the only two politicians (and I use that word lightly) that go off the cuff are Bernie and Trump.

    No. The problem is she claimed to have pretty much written the speech herself, lol. So they can certainly blame some incompetent, stupid, idiotic speech writers, but doing so makes her a liar. So what's better? Being a thief or a liar who claims the work of others as her own?
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Shawshank said:

    Yeah, who the fuck plagiarizes a speech?!? But she seems to be in good company...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgctsioisJg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqutz5ASDSA

    This is all true but I'm not ok with the "everybody does it" line of argument. It is a reason why I hated the Obama love fest. They were plaigirist phonies running on "yes we can" and a cult of personality. While I think Trump can win by doing the same I personally don't like it.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    Shawshank said:

    I think there should be a new law/requirement. If you are running for President, or you are the President, you cannot have a speech writer. If you can't sit down and put your own thoughts down on paper, you should automatically be eliminated from contention or impeached lol. I mean for the love of God, Abraham Lincoln grew up in a log cabin with dirt floors and grew to become one of the great speech writers of all time. It can be done, unfortunately over the last 60 years or so, the "great words" of our Presidents, are typically created by someone else working behind the scenes.

    I agree. I think all this speech writer business is ridiculous. Why in the fuck do any of us want to hear someone say a speech that was written by random people behind the scenes? We all know they do it, and for some reason we still listen to these speeches as though they really reflect the candidates' beliefs and their ability to communicate well and all the other things that we feel when we hear a good speech from someone. Why are we even listening when speech writers are coming with it?? It makes no sense unless we think that public speaking skills are the most important issue in politics.
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  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    Smellyman said:

    InHiding80 said:

    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/steve-king-white-people-live-tv

    Let's see, without Robert Johnson, Little Richard and Chuck Berry we wouldn't have had rock music and thus no PJ. FU SK.

    And they just bail him out instead of questioning him
    The "Bitch, please!" look on her face says otherwise. Priceless. :lol:

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