Republican Convention 2016/ Cleveland

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880
    edited July 2016
    Tiki said:

    I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

    All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

    And said his dad was involved with the JFK assassination and threaten to bring his wife's depression up as a campaign topic. But yeah, I generally agree with you.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,995
    edited July 2016
    Tiki said:

    I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

    All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

    No, there is nothing to respect. The Trump speech was great because it ruffled feathers at the shit show. That's it. Cruz did it for his own sake though, not for anyone else (maybe God is some fucked up way). He didn't gain my respect. He just gave me a speech that I thoroughly enjoyed because it made all the idiots at the RNC look like bigger idiots, basically. Yes, I do get some feelings of glee when Trump supporters get all mad and defensive. It's funny.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    PJ_Soul said:

    Tiki said:

    I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

    All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

    No, there is nothing to respect. The Trump speech was great because it ruffled feathers at the shit show. That's it. Cruz did it for his own sake though, not for anyone else (maybe God is some fucked up way). He didn't gain my respect. He just gave me a speech that I thoroughly enjoyed because it made all the idiots at the RNC look like bigger idiots, basically. Yes, I do get some feelings of glee when Trump supporters get all mad and defensive. It's funny.
    It is funny for sure. Again on the flipside though I wonder if we're all seeing it right. Trump knowingly let's Cruz go on stage and shit talk* him. People who are concerned about Trump being some potential Hitler-like authoritarian now have to come to the grips with the fact that he actively lets people shit talk him on prime time television. Is that authoritarian? Hardly. Next week we are going to compare that to the DNC which will be so scripted and boring and where all competition will be requires to bow down before a Hillary. A Hillary that has shown herself to be completely inaccessible to the media in comparison to the Trump family which has been on tve taking questions every second of everyday. How will the American people assess that difference? I am not sure I know anymore.

    *interesting aside - I wrote "shit talk" and my iOS autocorrect entered "rebuke". I had to go back and re-type it. Weird.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,995
    edited July 2016
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Tiki said:

    I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

    All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

    No, there is nothing to respect. The Trump speech was great because it ruffled feathers at the shit show. That's it. Cruz did it for his own sake though, not for anyone else (maybe God is some fucked up way). He didn't gain my respect. He just gave me a speech that I thoroughly enjoyed because it made all the idiots at the RNC look like bigger idiots, basically. Yes, I do get some feelings of glee when Trump supporters get all mad and defensive. It's funny.
    It is funny for sure. Again on the flipside though I wonder if we're all seeing it right. Trump knowingly let's Cruz go on stage and shit talk* him. People who are concerned about Trump being some potential Hitler-like authoritarian now have to come to the grips with the fact that he actively lets people shit talk him on prime time television. Is that authoritarian? Hardly. Next week we are going to compare that to the DNC which will be so scripted and boring and where all competition will be requires to bow down before a Hillary. A Hillary that has shown herself to be completely inaccessible to the media in comparison to the Trump family which has been on tve taking questions every second of everyday. How will the American people assess that difference? I am not sure I know anymore.

    *interesting aside - I wrote "shit talk" and my iOS autocorrect entered "rebuke". I had to go back and re-type it. Weird.
    Yeah, I did see something about Trump seeing the speech beforehand and letting it happen. I just kind of assumed it's a miscalculation on Trump's part. I feel like Trump is actually starting to overestimate the power of his bullshit now. Now that the real race is on, I don't think he can keep playing the games he's been playing up until now. But to your point about him not appearing authoritarian... I never thought he appeared that way. His ideas are Hitler-esque, and some of his campaign tactics are too, in terms of propaganda, but he's never been one to just tell people to shut up. He can't do that, because he can't shut up himself. He is just constantly out there swinging instead of just shutting down detractors. He's not the least bit shy about confronting his critics and never has been. That in and of itself isn't a bad thing... it's the fact that the critics are usually right and Trump is always just blowing bullshit out of his mouth in response that is the problem, lol. When he defends himself he gets into these bizarre train of thought moments that come off as pretty nutty.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,172
    I'm eagerly waiting for tonight to hear what else I need to be afraid of.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,154
    I can't believe all of you are watching it.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,003
    Jason P said:

    I can't believe all of you are watching it.

    I stopped after the 1st night , if they are not going to lay out their mission for the country and only talk smack about HC for three days it's unwatchable to me !!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,199

    Jason P said:

    I can't believe all of you are watching it.

    I stopped after the 1st night , if they are not going to lay out their mission for the country and only talk smack about HC for three days it's unwatchable to me !!
    ALL of these conventions are unwatchable I can't see what's so entertaining about this false lovest.

    Peace
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,154
    At least the city of cleveland is keeping all the idiots under control so far.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,199
    Jason P said:

    At least the city of cleveland is keeping all the idiots under control so far.

    What else would you expect the city just won a championship for the first time in umpteen years.

    Peace

    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623

    Jason P said:

    I can't believe all of you are watching it.

    I stopped after the 1st night , if they are not going to lay out their mission for the country and only talk smack about HC for three days it's unwatchable to me !!
    Where are the Rifftrax guys when you need them?
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,055
    wow #steamrollertrump

    illegals committing crimes in Chicago? OFF
    why isn't the guy who intro'd the trumps running?
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,055

    Tiki said:

    I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

    All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

    And said his dad was involved with the JFK assassination and threaten to bring his wife's depression up as a campaign topic. But yeah, I generally agree with you.
    AND that 2. what a tool. #sotrump
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,055
    BUT you know what? #hecouldwin so PAY ATTENTION.......
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Tiki said:

    I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

    All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

    No, there is nothing to respect. The Trump speech was great because it ruffled feathers at the shit show. That's it. Cruz did it for his own sake though, not for anyone else (maybe God is some fucked up way). He didn't gain my respect. He just gave me a speech that I thoroughly enjoyed because it made all the idiots at the RNC look like bigger idiots, basically. Yes, I do get some feelings of glee when Trump supporters get all mad and defensive. It's funny.
    It is funny for sure. Again on the flipside though I wonder if we're all seeing it right. Trump knowingly let's Cruz go on stage and shit talk* him. People who are concerned about Trump being some potential Hitler-like authoritarian now have to come to the grips with the fact that he actively lets people shit talk him on prime time television. Is that authoritarian? Hardly. Next week we are going to compare that to the DNC which will be so scripted and boring and where all competition will be requires to bow down before a Hillary. A Hillary that has shown herself to be completely inaccessible to the media in comparison to the Trump family which has been on tve taking questions every second of everyday. How will the American people assess that difference? I am not sure I know anymore.

    *interesting aside - I wrote "shit talk" and my iOS autocorrect entered "rebuke". I had to go back and re-type it. Weird.
    Yeah, I did see something about Trump seeing the speech beforehand and letting it happen. I just kind of assumed it's a miscalculation on Trump's part..
    No miscalculation at all he let Cruz sink his own ship and let everyone see that calling him "Lying Ted" was no mistake...I cant believe Cruz was pompous enough to fall for Trump setting him up...Cruz's political career is over

  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Cruz needs to finish his term, then open a law practice where he can piss off people in the courtroom for big bucks. Something he's better suited to.
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,920
    pjalive21 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Tiki said:

    I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

    All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

    No, there is nothing to respect. The Trump speech was great because it ruffled feathers at the shit show. That's it. Cruz did it for his own sake though, not for anyone else (maybe God is some fucked up way). He didn't gain my respect. He just gave me a speech that I thoroughly enjoyed because it made all the idiots at the RNC look like bigger idiots, basically. Yes, I do get some feelings of glee when Trump supporters get all mad and defensive. It's funny.
    It is funny for sure. Again on the flipside though I wonder if we're all seeing it right. Trump knowingly let's Cruz go on stage and shit talk* him. People who are concerned about Trump being some potential Hitler-like authoritarian now have to come to the grips with the fact that he actively lets people shit talk him on prime time television. Is that authoritarian? Hardly. Next week we are going to compare that to the DNC which will be so scripted and boring and where all competition will be requires to bow down before a Hillary. A Hillary that has shown herself to be completely inaccessible to the media in comparison to the Trump family which has been on tve taking questions every second of everyday. How will the American people assess that difference? I am not sure I know anymore.

    *interesting aside - I wrote "shit talk" and my iOS autocorrect entered "rebuke". I had to go back and re-type it. Weird.
    Yeah, I did see something about Trump seeing the speech beforehand and letting it happen. I just kind of assumed it's a miscalculation on Trump's part..
    No miscalculation at all he let Cruz sink his own ship and let everyone see that calling him "Lying Ted" was no mistake...I cant believe Cruz was pompous enough to fall for Trump setting him up...Cruz's political career is over

    As is Pence's, Christie's, etc.

  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Christie has made a fool of himself for months with no payoff from Trump.
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    eddiec said:

    pjalive21 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Tiki said:

    I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

    All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

    No, there is nothing to respect. The Trump speech was great because it ruffled feathers at the shit show. That's it. Cruz did it for his own sake though, not for anyone else (maybe God is some fucked up way). He didn't gain my respect. He just gave me a speech that I thoroughly enjoyed because it made all the idiots at the RNC look like bigger idiots, basically. Yes, I do get some feelings of glee when Trump supporters get all mad and defensive. It's funny.
    It is funny for sure. Again on the flipside though I wonder if we're all seeing it right. Trump knowingly let's Cruz go on stage and shit talk* him. People who are concerned about Trump being some potential Hitler-like authoritarian now have to come to the grips with the fact that he actively lets people shit talk him on prime time television. Is that authoritarian? Hardly. Next week we are going to compare that to the DNC which will be so scripted and boring and where all competition will be requires to bow down before a Hillary. A Hillary that has shown herself to be completely inaccessible to the media in comparison to the Trump family which has been on tve taking questions every second of everyday. How will the American people assess that difference? I am not sure I know anymore.

    *interesting aside - I wrote "shit talk" and my iOS autocorrect entered "rebuke". I had to go back and re-type it. Weird.
    Yeah, I did see something about Trump seeing the speech beforehand and letting it happen. I just kind of assumed it's a miscalculation on Trump's part..
    No miscalculation at all he let Cruz sink his own ship and let everyone see that calling him "Lying Ted" was no mistake...I cant believe Cruz was pompous enough to fall for Trump setting him up...Cruz's political career is over

    As is Pence's, Christie's, etc.

    I disagree that Ted's political career is over. When trump loses, and loses badly this November, he will be the first one in line to run against Hilary in 2020.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,920

    eddiec said:

    pjalive21 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Tiki said:

    I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

    All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

    No, there is nothing to respect. The Trump speech was great because it ruffled feathers at the shit show. That's it. Cruz did it for his own sake though, not for anyone else (maybe God is some fucked up way). He didn't gain my respect. He just gave me a speech that I thoroughly enjoyed because it made all the idiots at the RNC look like bigger idiots, basically. Yes, I do get some feelings of glee when Trump supporters get all mad and defensive. It's funny.
    It is funny for sure. Again on the flipside though I wonder if we're all seeing it right. Trump knowingly let's Cruz go on stage and shit talk* him. People who are concerned about Trump being some potential Hitler-like authoritarian now have to come to the grips with the fact that he actively lets people shit talk him on prime time television. Is that authoritarian? Hardly. Next week we are going to compare that to the DNC which will be so scripted and boring and where all competition will be requires to bow down before a Hillary. A Hillary that has shown herself to be completely inaccessible to the media in comparison to the Trump family which has been on tve taking questions every second of everyday. How will the American people assess that difference? I am not sure I know anymore.

    *interesting aside - I wrote "shit talk" and my iOS autocorrect entered "rebuke". I had to go back and re-type it. Weird.
    Yeah, I did see something about Trump seeing the speech beforehand and letting it happen. I just kind of assumed it's a miscalculation on Trump's part..
    No miscalculation at all he let Cruz sink his own ship and let everyone see that calling him "Lying Ted" was no mistake...I cant believe Cruz was pompous enough to fall for Trump setting him up...Cruz's political career is over

    As is Pence's, Christie's, etc.

    I disagree that Ted's political career is over. When trump loses, and loses badly this November, he will be the first one in line to run against Hilary in 2020.
    It was definitely an all or nothing gamble. I'll give that to him even though his brain is warped.

  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,003
    pjalive21 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Tiki said:

    I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

    All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

    No, there is nothing to respect. The Trump speech was great because it ruffled feathers at the shit show. That's it. Cruz did it for his own sake though, not for anyone else (maybe God is some fucked up way). He didn't gain my respect. He just gave me a speech that I thoroughly enjoyed because it made all the idiots at the RNC look like bigger idiots, basically. Yes, I do get some feelings of glee when Trump supporters get all mad and defensive. It's funny.
    It is funny for sure. Again on the flipside though I wonder if we're all seeing it right. Trump knowingly let's Cruz go on stage and shit talk* him. People who are concerned about Trump being some potential Hitler-like authoritarian now have to come to the grips with the fact that he actively lets people shit talk him on prime time television. Is that authoritarian? Hardly. Next week we are going to compare that to the DNC which will be so scripted and boring and where all competition will be requires to bow down before a Hillary. A Hillary that has shown herself to be completely inaccessible to the media in comparison to the Trump family which has been on tve taking questions every second of everyday. How will the American people assess that difference? I am not sure I know anymore.

    *interesting aside - I wrote "shit talk" and my iOS autocorrect entered "rebuke". I had to go back and re-type it. Weird.
    Yeah, I did see something about Trump seeing the speech beforehand and letting it happen. I just kind of assumed it's a miscalculation on Trump's part..
    No miscalculation at all he let Cruz sink his own ship and let everyone see that calling him "Lying Ted" was no mistake...I cant believe Cruz was pompous enough to fall for Trump setting him up...Cruz's political career is over

    Nah he will survive it Christie on the other hand is done he needs Trump to win otherwise he will be selling hot dogs at minor league ball park if that !!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,995

    eddiec said:

    pjalive21 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Tiki said:

    I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

    All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

    No, there is nothing to respect. The Trump speech was great because it ruffled feathers at the shit show. That's it. Cruz did it for his own sake though, not for anyone else (maybe God is some fucked up way). He didn't gain my respect. He just gave me a speech that I thoroughly enjoyed because it made all the idiots at the RNC look like bigger idiots, basically. Yes, I do get some feelings of glee when Trump supporters get all mad and defensive. It's funny.
    It is funny for sure. Again on the flipside though I wonder if we're all seeing it right. Trump knowingly let's Cruz go on stage and shit talk* him. People who are concerned about Trump being some potential Hitler-like authoritarian now have to come to the grips with the fact that he actively lets people shit talk him on prime time television. Is that authoritarian? Hardly. Next week we are going to compare that to the DNC which will be so scripted and boring and where all competition will be requires to bow down before a Hillary. A Hillary that has shown herself to be completely inaccessible to the media in comparison to the Trump family which has been on tve taking questions every second of everyday. How will the American people assess that difference? I am not sure I know anymore.

    *interesting aside - I wrote "shit talk" and my iOS autocorrect entered "rebuke". I had to go back and re-type it. Weird.
    Yeah, I did see something about Trump seeing the speech beforehand and letting it happen. I just kind of assumed it's a miscalculation on Trump's part..
    No miscalculation at all he let Cruz sink his own ship and let everyone see that calling him "Lying Ted" was no mistake...I cant believe Cruz was pompous enough to fall for Trump setting him up...Cruz's political career is over

    As is Pence's, Christie's, etc.

    I disagree that Ted's political career is over. When trump loses, and loses badly this November, he will be the first one in line to run against Hilary in 2020.
    Agreed. He is setting goals himself up pretty well IMO (which is a terrible thing).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303

    pjalive21 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Tiki said:

    I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

    All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

    No, there is nothing to respect. The Trump speech was great because it ruffled feathers at the shit show. That's it. Cruz did it for his own sake though, not for anyone else (maybe God is some fucked up way). He didn't gain my respect. He just gave me a speech that I thoroughly enjoyed because it made all the idiots at the RNC look like bigger idiots, basically. Yes, I do get some feelings of glee when Trump supporters get all mad and defensive. It's funny.
    It is funny for sure. Again on the flipside though I wonder if we're all seeing it right. Trump knowingly let's Cruz go on stage and shit talk* him. People who are concerned about Trump being some potential Hitler-like authoritarian now have to come to the grips with the fact that he actively lets people shit talk him on prime time television. Is that authoritarian? Hardly. Next week we are going to compare that to the DNC which will be so scripted and boring and where all competition will be requires to bow down before a Hillary. A Hillary that has shown herself to be completely inaccessible to the media in comparison to the Trump family which has been on tve taking questions every second of everyday. How will the American people assess that difference? I am not sure I know anymore.

    *interesting aside - I wrote "shit talk" and my iOS autocorrect entered "rebuke". I had to go back and re-type it. Weird.
    Yeah, I did see something about Trump seeing the speech beforehand and letting it happen. I just kind of assumed it's a miscalculation on Trump's part..
    No miscalculation at all he let Cruz sink his own ship and let everyone see that calling him "Lying Ted" was no mistake...I cant believe Cruz was pompous enough to fall for Trump setting him up...Cruz's political career is over

    Nah he will survive it Christie on the other hand is done he needs Trump to win otherwise he will be selling EATING hot dogs at minor league ball park if that !!
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,055
    the media will try to normalize the 2 candidates to get a even fight. resist.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    I wonder if he had an hour in a room alone with Bill and Chelsea Clinton if he could be convinced to endorse hilary?
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880
    edited July 2016
    This pretty much means you should vote for Hillary, or at least not Trump
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,995
    edited July 2016
    You'd think that Shkreli might be smart enough to understand that his support can only hurt, lol. I can't believe he's even still on Twitter.... although apparently almost 3500 idiots still like him.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    PJ_Soul said:

    You'd think that Shkreli might be smart enough to understand that his support can only hurt, lol. I can't beleive he's even still in Twitter.... although apparently almost 3500 idiots still like him.
    There are idiots that still like Cheney, Dubya and Gohmert. All you have to do is do word searches for those who support them on Twitter and Facebook. Disturbing.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623

    This pretty much means you should vote for Hillary, or at least not Trump
    Or write in Bernie and vote Johnson or Stein.
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