Trump

PJfanwillneverleave1 · July 2016

^^^
Yes I do perhaps that is why you can't be the self nominated conservative around here.
Do it with conviction so there is no confusion.

g under p · July 2016

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
^^^
Yes he appeals to some people that are racist.
How many voters didn't vote Obama? Are they racist?

In the first election of Obama I didn't vote for the President and I'm far from anything racist.

Peace

mrussel1 · July 2016

g under p said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
^^^
Yes he appeals to some people that are racist.
How many voters didn't vote Obama? Are they racist?
In the first election of Obama I didn't vote for the President and I'm far from anything racist.

Peace

And no one said that, although that's what PJFAN is trying to box me into saying. I don't believe it so no amount of screwy questions will get me there.

g under p · July 2016

mrussel1 said:

g under p said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
^^^
Yes he appeals to some people that are racist.
How many voters didn't vote Obama? Are they racist?
In the first election of Obama I didn't vote for the President and I'm far from anything racist.

Peace

And no one said that, although that's what PJFAN is trying to box me into saying. I don't believe it so no amount of screwy questions will get me there.

I know and I hear ya.

Peace

mrussel1 · July 2016

This is from a Reuters poll of 16000 people (huge sample) measuring the racial attitudes of the supporters of Clinton, Trump, Cruz and Kasich. Oops.. who is the outlier here?? This completely supports my statements above that, although not all Trump supporters are racists, racists are disproportionately drawn to him. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-race-idUSKCN0ZE2SW

Bentleyspop · July 2016

mrussel1 said:
This is from a Reuters poll of 16000 people (huge sample) measuring the racial attitudes of the supporters of Clinton, Trump, Cruz and Kasich. Oops.. who is the outlier here?? This completely supports my statements above that, although not all Trump supporters are racists, racists are disproportionately drawn to him. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-race-idUSKCN0ZE2SW

Donald Trump does really well among white voters without a college degree.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-may-become-the-first-republican-in-60-years-to-lose-white-college-graduates/

eddiec · July 2016

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
^^^
Your opinion is that he appeals to racists.
Am I racist because I sometimes post truths that he says?
A distraction? No. Trump appeals to many not just the uneducated racists.

You don't have to be uneducated to be racist.

mrussel1 · July 2016

Bentleyspop said:

mrussel1 said:
This is from a Reuters poll of 16000 people (huge sample) measuring the racial attitudes of the supporters of Clinton, Trump, Cruz and Kasich. Oops.. who is the outlier here?? This completely supports my statements above that, although not all Trump supporters are racists, racists are disproportionately drawn to him. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-race-idUSKCN0ZE2SW

Donald Trump does really well among white voters without a college degree.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-may-become-the-first-republican-in-60-years-to-lose-white-college-graduates/

Yeah I saw this too. I love 538... best info out there. Anyway, none of this should shock anyone. Everyone I work with is college educated, most are white (proportional to the pop.) and most are traditionally Republican. They all make fun of Trump and think he's an idiot.

Ledbetterman10 · July 2016

The other day I was playing a game of MLB The Show on PS4 and my opponent's team was called "Make 'Merica Great Again" and his jerseys said "I Love The Poorly Educated." After the game (which he won), I sent him a message saying that I couldn't stop laughing at his jersey. He replied "The funniest thing is I get messages from Trump supporters saying things like 'Go Trump!' like I'm not making fun of them."

Gern Blansten · July 2016

mrussel1 said:

Bentleyspop said:

mrussel1 said:
This is from a Reuters poll of 16000 people (huge sample) measuring the racial attitudes of the supporters of Clinton, Trump, Cruz and Kasich. Oops.. who is the outlier here?? This completely supports my statements above that, although not all Trump supporters are racists, racists are disproportionately drawn to him. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-race-idUSKCN0ZE2SW

Donald Trump does really well among white voters without a college degree.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-may-become-the-first-republican-in-60-years-to-lose-white-college-graduates/
Yeah I saw this too. I love 538... best info out there. Anyway, none of this should shock anyone. Everyone I work with is college educated, most are white (proportional to the pop.) and most are traditionally Republican. They all make fun of Trump and think he's an idiot.

But who will they vote for?

I was surprised to hear that my rabid right wing sister/brother-in-law didn't think much of Trump. I guess they might see Johnson as the alternative.

mrussel1 · July 2016

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Bentleyspop said:

mrussel1 said:
This is from a Reuters poll of 16000 people (huge sample) measuring the racial attitudes of the supporters of Clinton, Trump, Cruz and Kasich. Oops.. who is the outlier here?? This completely supports my statements above that, although not all Trump supporters are racists, racists are disproportionately drawn to him. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-race-idUSKCN0ZE2SW

Donald Trump does really well among white voters without a college degree.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-may-become-the-first-republican-in-60-years-to-lose-white-college-graduates/
Yeah I saw this too. I love 538... best info out there. Anyway, none of this should shock anyone. Everyone I work with is college educated, most are white (proportional to the pop.) and most are traditionally Republican. They all make fun of Trump and think he's an idiot.
But who will they vote for?

I was surprised to hear that my rabid right wing sister/brother-in-law didn't think much of Trump. I guess they might see Johnson as the alternative.

Well the pro Business people have always been an unusual fit for today's GOP. I say this because they are usually liberal on social issues. But the founder of my company once said something that I thought was really smart... He said he votes Republican because the social issues are always going to go left on their own. You don't necessarily need a Democratic administration to enact those changes.

I think he is mostly right, but not completely right. SCOTUS and all.. but anyway, I digest. The point is, I'm not sure if they will pull the "R" lever when the time comes, go Johnson, or just not vote. My guess is that many of them stay home.

PJPOWER · July 2016

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Bentleyspop said:

mrussel1 said:
This is from a Reuters poll of 16000 people (huge sample) measuring the racial attitudes of the supporters of Clinton, Trump, Cruz and Kasich. Oops.. who is the outlier here?? This completely supports my statements above that, although not all Trump supporters are racists, racists are disproportionately drawn to him. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-race-idUSKCN0ZE2SW

Donald Trump does really well among white voters without a college degree.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-may-become-the-first-republican-in-60-years-to-lose-white-college-graduates/
Yeah I saw this too. I love 538... best info out there. Anyway, none of this should shock anyone. Everyone I work with is college educated, most are white (proportional to the pop.) and most are traditionally Republican. They all make fun of Trump and think he's an idiot.
But who will they vote for?

I was surprised to hear that my rabid right wing sister/brother-in-law didn't think much of Trump. I guess they might see Johnson as the alternative.

Well the pro Business people have always been an unusual fit for today's GOP. I say this because they are usually liberal on social issues. But the founder of my company once said something that I thought was really smart... He said he votes Republican because the social issues are always going to go left on their own. You don't necessarily need a Democratic administration to enact those changes.

I think he is mostly right, but not completely right. SCOTUS and all.. but anyway, I digest. The point is, I'm not sure if they will pull the "R" lever when the time comes, go Johnson, or just not vote. My guess is that many of them stay home.

I think that most will just do what they have always done and just vote R all the way down the ticket, regardless of who the nominee is.

Gern Blansten · July 2016

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Bentleyspop said:

mrussel1 said:
This is from a Reuters poll of 16000 people (huge sample) measuring the racial attitudes of the supporters of Clinton, Trump, Cruz and Kasich. Oops.. who is the outlier here?? This completely supports my statements above that, although not all Trump supporters are racists, racists are disproportionately drawn to him. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-race-idUSKCN0ZE2SW

Donald Trump does really well among white voters without a college degree.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-may-become-the-first-republican-in-60-years-to-lose-white-college-graduates/
Yeah I saw this too. I love 538... best info out there. Anyway, none of this should shock anyone. Everyone I work with is college educated, most are white (proportional to the pop.) and most are traditionally Republican. They all make fun of Trump and think he's an idiot.
But who will they vote for?

I was surprised to hear that my rabid right wing sister/brother-in-law didn't think much of Trump. I guess they might see Johnson as the alternative.

Well the pro Business people have always been an unusual fit for today's GOP. I say this because they are usually liberal on social issues. But the founder of my company once said something that I thought was really smart... He said he votes Republican because the social issues are always going to go left on their own. You don't necessarily need a Democratic administration to enact those changes.

I think he is mostly right, but not completely right. SCOTUS and all.. but anyway, I digest. The point is, I'm not sure if they will pull the "R" lever when the time comes, go Johnson, or just not vote. My guess is that many of them stay home.

Small businesses (including mine) have done very well the last few years. This might be more of where I am geographically but there is pretty good data that shows how much better the economy does under Dems.

mrussel1 · July 2016

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Bentleyspop said:

mrussel1 said:
This is from a Reuters poll of 16000 people (huge sample) measuring the racial attitudes of the supporters of Clinton, Trump, Cruz and Kasich. Oops.. who is the outlier here?? This completely supports my statements above that, although not all Trump supporters are racists, racists are disproportionately drawn to him. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-race-idUSKCN0ZE2SW

Donald Trump does really well among white voters without a college degree.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-may-become-the-first-republican-in-60-years-to-lose-white-college-graduates/
Yeah I saw this too. I love 538... best info out there. Anyway, none of this should shock anyone. Everyone I work with is college educated, most are white (proportional to the pop.) and most are traditionally Republican. They all make fun of Trump and think he's an idiot.
But who will they vote for?

I was surprised to hear that my rabid right wing sister/brother-in-law didn't think much of Trump. I guess they might see Johnson as the alternative.

Well the pro Business people have always been an unusual fit for today's GOP. I say this because they are usually liberal on social issues. But the founder of my company once said something that I thought was really smart... He said he votes Republican because the social issues are always going to go left on their own. You don't necessarily need a Democratic administration to enact those changes.

I think he is mostly right, but not completely right. SCOTUS and all.. but anyway, I digest. The point is, I'm not sure if they will pull the "R" lever when the time comes, go Johnson, or just not vote. My guess is that many of them stay home.
Small businesses (including mine) have done very well the last few years. This might be more of where I am geographically but there is pretty good data that shows how much better the economy does under Dems.

My business has suffered a bit under the yoke of regulation since Obama took office. The CFPB has created an environment that means, for example, we added 20% to our workforce but in all non-revenue producing roles. It's all regulatory compliance. So my company is not a fan of Obama (as a rule) but I'm the resident Democrat. Many believe (with reason) that the economy is basically cyclical, with events driving short term gains/losses in the market (Brexit, 9/11, and the like). Again, these are rational beliefs and I generally believe in a cyclical economy which is why I vote D.

PJ_Soul · July 2016

eddiec said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
^^^
Your opinion is that he appeals to racists.
Am I racist because I sometimes post truths that he says?
A distraction? No. Trump appeals to many not just the uneducated racists.
You don't have to be uneducated to be racist.

No, you don't. But it does seem like there are a lot more uneducated racists than educated ones.

Gern Blansten · July 2016

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/nypd-commish-says-trump-wanted-a-photo-op-with-nyc-cops-in-the-wake-of-dallas-shooting/

The New York Daily News reports that Trump on Friday morning called up the New York Police Department and asked if he could speak to officers at a 3 p.m. roll call at the NYPD Midtown North Precinct.

Police Commissioner Bill Bratton, however, quickly nixed the idea.

“Our interest is staying out of the politics of the moment, and not to provide photo ops,” Bratton told reporters. “If Mr. Trump wants to speak to me, I would be happy to brief him on what we’re doing. If Sen. Clinton wants to speak to me, I would very happy to brief her on what we’re doing. But we are not in the business of providing photo ops for our candidates.”

What an absolute piece of shit

The Juggler · July 2016

Gern Blansten said:
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/nypd-commish-says-trump-wanted-a-photo-op-with-nyc-cops-in-the-wake-of-dallas-shooting/

The New York Daily News reports that Trump on Friday morning called up the New York Police Department and asked if he could speak to officers at a 3 p.m. roll call at the NYPD Midtown North Precinct.

Police Commissioner Bill Bratton, however, quickly nixed the idea.

“Our interest is staying out of the politics of the moment, and not to provide photo ops,” Bratton told reporters. “If Mr. Trump wants to speak to me, I would be happy to brief him on what we’re doing. If Sen. Clinton wants to speak to me, I would very happy to brief her on what we’re doing. But we are not in the business of providing photo ops for our candidates.”

What an absolute piece of shit

Good for Bratton

PJfanwillneverleave1 · July 2016

^^^
Why does this make him a piece of shit? He asked for a chance to address them big deal.
He supports the police and the NY vets support him.

Bentleyspop · July 2016

Clearly qualified......

Mark Sanford: Trump defended articles of the Constitution that don't exist
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/08/politics/sanford-questions-trump-constitution-gaffe/

josevolution · July 2016

Bentleyspop said:
Clearly qualified......

Mark Sanford: Trump defended articles of the Constitution that don't exist
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/08/politics/sanford-questions-trump-constitution-gaffe/

No matter what at the end of campaign on Election Day all the Republicans will fall in line with him and vote for him republican stablishement are a bunch of weak no balls group , they will never ever stand against the NRA hence they will have to vote for Trump ..

Trump

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