European Union vote 2016
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this one caught my attention...Kat said:
Tamara Isted @TamaraIsted1 · 13h13 hours ago
You know what makes me mad? Those who it will affect most were sat in classrooms while the rest of the country got their vote
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The EU was been a failed experiment. I don't blame the UK for voting out of it.
Regardless of whichever opinion you have on it, no one knows if it was the best or worst thing to do. For every reason you look up why they should stay, there is a reason for why they should leave.0 -
Nigel Farage: £350 million pledge to fund the NHS was 'a mistake'
One of the central claims made by supporters of the United Kingdom’s exit from the European Union was that £350 million per week that the nation was sending to the EU would instead be put toward the National Health Service. On Good Morning Britain today, UK Independence Party Leader Nigel Farage said that claim is untrue.
The pledge was central to the official Vote Leave campaign and was controversially emblazoned on the side of the bus which shuttled Boris Johnson and Michael Gove around the country.
Campaigners promised to use the money the UK reportedly sends to the EU to fund the health service instead.
Asked by ITV's Good Morning Britain whether he could guarantee that the £350m that was sent to the EU would now go the NHS, Mr Farage said: “No I can’t, I would never have made that claim.
"That was one of the mistakes made by the Leave campaign.”
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Oops. (FYI: NHS is UK healthcare system)
telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/nigel-farage-350-million-pledge-to-fund-the-nhs-was-a-mistake/Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
I wonder if this will give hope and possible resurgence to the Bloc Quebecois seperatists in Canada once again.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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If they try that again the rest of Canada could just have a referendum to boot them out ourselves, lol.HughFreakingDillon said:I wonder if this will give hope and possible resurgence to the Bloc Quebecois seperatists in Canada once again.
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if this is true, it is incredibly baffling: one of the top searches in UK right now according to Google data is "what is the EU?". you've GOT to be kidding me. And there's reports of people saying that if they could go back, they'd change their vote, as they never thought it would actually happen. what the fuck, did you think this was British Idol??By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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This is what scares me this November. People voting for Trump as a goof or not voting thinking their vote won't make a difference.Kat said:Many articles like this one.)
TIME Magazine
These Brexit Voters Think They Have Made a Horrible Mistake
Tara John @tarajohn 10:16 AM ET
"I didn’t think my vote was going to matter too much"
Some Brexit voters are regretting their choice after U.K.’s momentous decision to leave the E.U. on Thursday, which caused the British pound to hit a 30-year low.
On the BBC, a Brexit voter introduced as Adam said that he was “shocked” that Britain voted to Leave. “I did not think that was going to happen, I didn’t think my vote was going to matter too much because I thought we were just going to remain,” he said, adding that the resignation of U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron has “blown me away,” resulting in a magnified “period of uncertainty.”
From Manchester Airport, another voter, Mandy, told ITV news that she is disappointed with her choice. “This morning I woke up and the reality did actually hit me, if I had the opportunity to vote again it would be to stay,” she told ITV.
Others took to Twitter to air their grievances
The Boy El Pablo @ELIJAH_XVII
Lol starting to regret my vote #EURefResults
6:43 AM - 24 Jun 2016
9 9 Retweets 1 1 like
Tom Walker @thomaswalker93
Urm I think I kinda regret my vote, I had no real reason to pick what I did!!
12:06 AM - 24 Jun 2016
15 15 Retweets 6 6 likes
khembe @rambogiblet
I personally voted leave believing these lies and I regret it more than anything, I feel genuinely robbed of my voteI miss igotid880 -
I feel this board share a lot of the same good values regardless of leave or remain. My view being that ´leave` is the best outcome is considered with acknowledging that there is an element of negativity amongst many voting for leave. I strongly reject the anti immigration sentiment - it really saddens me. However I am very passionate in understanding how can europe be prosperous again. It needs a strong foundation of democracy to start with - one thing sorely lacking in Brussels. Above else people need a voice and to be able to vote in and out lawmakers. My second consideration is the economic state of the european union. This is undoubtedly a factor which has stirred up the nationalism sentiment and people need to blame it on someone or something. So sometimes rightly but much more often wrongfully point to immigration being the cause of their lower standard of living. The EU seemingly works in good times but as the world wide debt supercycle comes to an end, it is extremely toxic to the society for such an organisation like the EU to dictate fiscal and monetary policy against the will of the european nations. It is psychologically crippling and it is the right environment for extreme political group to gain power. I want you all to understand that negative interest rates in nearly a third of the world is a big sign that the central planners have lost control and have no more options.ie helicopter money has failed miserably. We have to be honest and say there is a big problem and there are no easy ways to get back on track. I think an important issue regarding peace going forward is to see countries get their sovereignty back as I think people will be more responsive to knowing they have a vote. Countries like Greece will be able to start from scratch and become competitive again using a currency that is valued on it´s own merits and not shutting them out of opportunity to thrive. As it stands the european union very much is run by cronies and make it difficult for small business, entrepreneurs and innovation. It is that way even if people don´t sense it to be that way. The mess the EU is in is a product of its existence. The intentions of bringing peace to europe were very worthy but times have changed and the EU has evolved into something that I can never by priciple support.mattsl1983 said:The EU was been a failed experiment. I don't blame the UK for voting out of it.
Regardless of whichever opinion you have on it, no one knows if it was the best or worst thing to do. For every reason you look up why they should stay, there is a reason for why they should leave.
I welcome constructive positive solutions to the problems of Europe and Britain. Even though many voters for leave voted for anti immigration I want those who voted for democracy to take Britain forward an hopefully inspire other countries to transition into a more respectful and sustainable europe. I also want to thank everyone for the insights on both sides.ie. Spags.
If there is no discussion there is no advancement. CheersPost edited by newy777 on0 -
i see that the older people are blaming the millenials for not being engaged. seems to me the boomers are the ones driving the leave movement.
problem with society today is that everyone is so focused on taking and posting the ultimate selfie of them standing in the voting line that they do not have time to think about the decision they are making in the voting booth.
you get enough people not paying attention and this can happen anywhere.
i saw on the facebook page that some women took a photo of her california primary ballot where she wrote in the name "eddie vedder".
i kid you not."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
This is what scares me about those voting for Sanders and Hillary..even with all the info out there about Hillary people don't care and vote party over facts and common sense and with Sanders he is no revolutionary guy has been in government for decades and is a shilligotid88 said:
This is what scares me this November. People voting for Trump as a goof or not voting thinking their vote won't make a difference.Kat said:Many articles like this one.)
TIME Magazine
These Brexit Voters Think They Have Made a Horrible Mistake
Tara John @tarajohn 10:16 AM ET
"I didn’t think my vote was going to matter too much"
Some Brexit voters are regretting their choice after U.K.’s momentous decision to leave the E.U. on Thursday, which caused the British pound to hit a 30-year low.
On the BBC, a Brexit voter introduced as Adam said that he was “shocked” that Britain voted to Leave. “I did not think that was going to happen, I didn’t think my vote was going to matter too much because I thought we were just going to remain,” he said, adding that the resignation of U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron has “blown me away,” resulting in a magnified “period of uncertainty.”
From Manchester Airport, another voter, Mandy, told ITV news that she is disappointed with her choice. “This morning I woke up and the reality did actually hit me, if I had the opportunity to vote again it would be to stay,” she told ITV.
Others took to Twitter to air their grievances
The Boy El Pablo @ELIJAH_XVII
Lol starting to regret my vote #EURefResults
6:43 AM - 24 Jun 2016
9 9 Retweets 1 1 like
Tom Walker @thomaswalker93
Urm I think I kinda regret my vote, I had no real reason to pick what I did!!
12:06 AM - 24 Jun 2016
15 15 Retweets 6 6 likes
khembe @rambogiblet
I personally voted leave believing these lies and I regret it more than anything, I feel genuinely robbed of my vote
As for those in the UK that Kat listed above if you didn't know what you were voting for then you are plain and simple and ill informed simpleton
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With Trump every single word, action or thought is discussed all over the world. There is no surprise with what you will get if you vote Trump. People will vote for Trump not the party.pjalive21 said:
This is what scares me about those voting for Sanders and Hillary..even with all the info out there about Hillary people don't care and vote party over facts and common sense and with Sanders he is no revolutionary guy has been in government for decades and is a shilligotid88 said:
This is what scares me this November. People voting for Trump as a goof or not voting thinking their vote won't make a difference.Kat said:Many articles like this one.)
TIME Magazine
These Brexit Voters Think They Have Made a Horrible Mistake
Tara John @tarajohn 10:16 AM ET
"I didn’t think my vote was going to matter too much"
Some Brexit voters are regretting their choice after U.K.’s momentous decision to leave the E.U. on Thursday, which caused the British pound to hit a 30-year low.
On the BBC, a Brexit voter introduced as Adam said that he was “shocked” that Britain voted to Leave. “I did not think that was going to happen, I didn’t think my vote was going to matter too much because I thought we were just going to remain,” he said, adding that the resignation of U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron has “blown me away,” resulting in a magnified “period of uncertainty.”
From Manchester Airport, another voter, Mandy, told ITV news that she is disappointed with her choice. “This morning I woke up and the reality did actually hit me, if I had the opportunity to vote again it would be to stay,” she told ITV.
Others took to Twitter to air their grievances
The Boy El Pablo @ELIJAH_XVII
Lol starting to regret my vote #EURefResults
6:43 AM - 24 Jun 2016
9 9 Retweets 1 1 like
Tom Walker @thomaswalker93
Urm I think I kinda regret my vote, I had no real reason to pick what I did!!
12:06 AM - 24 Jun 2016
15 15 Retweets 6 6 likes
khembe @rambogiblet
I personally voted leave believing these lies and I regret it more than anything, I feel genuinely robbed of my vote
As for those in the UK that Kat listed above if you didn't know what you were voting for then you are plain and simple and ill informed simpleton0 -
I would beg to disagree with you on that. You simply cannot dismiss anyone that disagrees with you as uninformed or not paying attention. What if they are informed and paying attention but just feel differently than you do? It's politics. There is no right or wrong answer. You can't just dismiss people and label them as uninformed. That is a huge generalization. It's good to disagree in politics. Just don't take an elitist stance that no one is educated if they feel differently than you. That's my thoughts on it anyway.gimmesometruth27 said:i see that the older people are blaming the millenials for not being engaged. seems to me the boomers are the ones driving the leave movement.
problem with society today is that everyone is so focused on taking and posting the ultimate selfie of them standing in the voting line that they do not have time to think about the decision they are making in the voting booth.
you get enough people not paying attention and this can happen anywhere.
i saw on the facebook page that some women took a photo of her california primary ballot where she wrote in the name "eddie vedder".
i kid you not.0 -
Good for the uk.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0
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Keep up man.mattsl1983 said:
I would beg to disagree with you on that. You simply cannot dismiss anyone that disagrees with you as uninformed or not paying attention. What if they are informed and paying attention but just feel differently than you do? It's politics. There is no right or wrong answer. You can't just dismiss people and label them as uninformed. That is a huge generalization. It's good to disagree in politics. Just don't take an elitist stance that no one is educated if they feel differently than you. That's my thoughts on it anyway.gimmesometruth27 said:i see that the older people are blaming the millenials for not being engaged. seems to me the boomers are the ones driving the leave movement.
problem with society today is that everyone is so focused on taking and posting the ultimate selfie of them standing in the voting line that they do not have time to think about the decision they are making in the voting booth.
you get enough people not paying attention and this can happen anywhere.
i saw on the facebook page that some women took a photo of her california primary ballot where she wrote in the name "eddie vedder".
i kid you not.
Unless you agree on the train you are a racist, insensitive bigot.
Now carry on agreeing.0 -
That is absolutely untrue. Anyone that disagrees and has valid points to submit are not only good for discussion, but is encouraged. There are a few people here, however, that add nothing but opinion backed up with no facts.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Keep up man.mattsl1983 said:
I would beg to disagree with you on that. You simply cannot dismiss anyone that disagrees with you as uninformed or not paying attention. What if they are informed and paying attention but just feel differently than you do? It's politics. There is no right or wrong answer. You can't just dismiss people and label them as uninformed. That is a huge generalization. It's good to disagree in politics. Just don't take an elitist stance that no one is educated if they feel differently than you. That's my thoughts on it anyway.gimmesometruth27 said:i see that the older people are blaming the millenials for not being engaged. seems to me the boomers are the ones driving the leave movement.
problem with society today is that everyone is so focused on taking and posting the ultimate selfie of them standing in the voting line that they do not have time to think about the decision they are making in the voting booth.
you get enough people not paying attention and this can happen anywhere.
i saw on the facebook page that some women took a photo of her california primary ballot where she wrote in the name "eddie vedder".
i kid you not.
Unless you agree on the train you are a racist, insensitive bigot.
Now carry on agreeing.will myself to find a home, a home within myself
we will find a way, we will find our place0 -
Well anything that even hints at supporting Trump is frowned upon the train no?Degeneratefk said:
That is absolutely untrue. Anyone that disagrees and has valid points to submit are not only good for discussion, but is encouraged. There are a few people here, however, that add nothing but opinion backed up with no facts.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Keep up man.mattsl1983 said:
I would beg to disagree with you on that. You simply cannot dismiss anyone that disagrees with you as uninformed or not paying attention. What if they are informed and paying attention but just feel differently than you do? It's politics. There is no right or wrong answer. You can't just dismiss people and label them as uninformed. That is a huge generalization. It's good to disagree in politics. Just don't take an elitist stance that no one is educated if they feel differently than you. That's my thoughts on it anyway.gimmesometruth27 said:i see that the older people are blaming the millenials for not being engaged. seems to me the boomers are the ones driving the leave movement.
problem with society today is that everyone is so focused on taking and posting the ultimate selfie of them standing in the voting line that they do not have time to think about the decision they are making in the voting booth.
you get enough people not paying attention and this can happen anywhere.
i saw on the facebook page that some women took a photo of her california primary ballot where she wrote in the name "eddie vedder".
i kid you not.
Unless you agree on the train you are a racist, insensitive bigot.
Now carry on agreeing.0 -
I haven't seen anyone that backs their endorsement of trump get a hard time if they back their points up with facts. The problem with most trump support is that there is no fact backing up trump. He's got no political experience. So to say he can accomplish anything he has campaigned for can't be backed up by any fact.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Well anything that even hints at supporting Trump is frowned upon the train no?Degeneratefk said:
That is absolutely untrue. Anyone that disagrees and has valid points to submit are not only good for discussion, but is encouraged. There are a few people here, however, that add nothing but opinion backed up with no facts.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Keep up man.mattsl1983 said:
I would beg to disagree with you on that. You simply cannot dismiss anyone that disagrees with you as uninformed or not paying attention. What if they are informed and paying attention but just feel differently than you do? It's politics. There is no right or wrong answer. You can't just dismiss people and label them as uninformed. That is a huge generalization. It's good to disagree in politics. Just don't take an elitist stance that no one is educated if they feel differently than you. That's my thoughts on it anyway.gimmesometruth27 said:i see that the older people are blaming the millenials for not being engaged. seems to me the boomers are the ones driving the leave movement.
problem with society today is that everyone is so focused on taking and posting the ultimate selfie of them standing in the voting line that they do not have time to think about the decision they are making in the voting booth.
you get enough people not paying attention and this can happen anywhere.
i saw on the facebook page that some women took a photo of her california primary ballot where she wrote in the name "eddie vedder".
i kid you not.
Unless you agree on the train you are a racist, insensitive bigot.
Now carry on agreeing.will myself to find a home, a home within myself
we will find a way, we will find our place0 -
He has campaigned on his beliefs.Degeneratefk said:
I haven't seen anyone that backs their endorsement of trump get a hard time if they back their points up with facts. The problem with most trump support is that there is no fact backing up trump. He's got no political experience. So to say he can accomplish anything he has campaigned for can't be backed up by any fact.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Well anything that even hints at supporting Trump is frowned upon the train no?Degeneratefk said:
That is absolutely untrue. Anyone that disagrees and has valid points to submit are not only good for discussion, but is encouraged. There are a few people here, however, that add nothing but opinion backed up with no facts.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Keep up man.mattsl1983 said:
I would beg to disagree with you on that. You simply cannot dismiss anyone that disagrees with you as uninformed or not paying attention. What if they are informed and paying attention but just feel differently than you do? It's politics. There is no right or wrong answer. You can't just dismiss people and label them as uninformed. That is a huge generalization. It's good to disagree in politics. Just don't take an elitist stance that no one is educated if they feel differently than you. That's my thoughts on it anyway.gimmesometruth27 said:i see that the older people are blaming the millenials for not being engaged. seems to me the boomers are the ones driving the leave movement.
problem with society today is that everyone is so focused on taking and posting the ultimate selfie of them standing in the voting line that they do not have time to think about the decision they are making in the voting booth.
you get enough people not paying attention and this can happen anywhere.
i saw on the facebook page that some women took a photo of her california primary ballot where she wrote in the name "eddie vedder".
i kid you not.
Unless you agree on the train you are a racist, insensitive bigot.
Now carry on agreeing.
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