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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,374

    Yeah I think he does. I think his wall plan is not out of racism but out of his want to focus on those who are here legally and to try to help our economy without having to use federal money to support those who aren't citizens. I think Hillary is just as pampered- she didn't get born with millions from her dad, but she certainly doesn't understand the middle and lower class people either, she accept payments and donations from Wall Street while saying she wants to take politics away from them. Making a living off of them while saying you're going to cut off your bloodline just isn't believable. And trumps point on Muslims even though he says it completely moronically is that we need to treat immigrants from Canada for example completely differently than immigrants from dangerous places like Syria where there are dangerous radical extremist elements.

    I think his attacks on Obama are justified too, and that Hillary ought to show a little fight herself. Obama got angry at trump today in his speech but never once got angry at the terrorist? Trumps just a loudmouth douche but Obama attacks him back instead of verbally attacking Isis showing that we're not going to let this affect us- I think his focus is aimed at the wrong people. He needs to show that he's focused on helping us, not focused on apologizing to the rest of the world for what we've done in the past.
    What federal money goes to illegals?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,437
    dignin said:

    Now you get it.
    Yeah, I struggled with this one. But as soon as a guy with an orange face said it, it clicked. Now I can see why he is the standard bearer of the grand old party.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,525
    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/andrea-mitchell-president-obama-just-eviscerated-donald-trump-in-that-extraordinary-speech/
    “This was a passionate cry from the heart about his vision for America,” Mitchell said. “He has never before taken on Donald Trump, and he just eviscerated Donald Trump in that extraordinary speech. President Obama basically saying, ‘Do you think that using a phrase is a military strategy? Do you think that we sit here saying, well, maybe if we used the phrase radical Islamic terrorists then we could defeat ISIL?'
    Hilarious...Obama just destroyed that combover headed dumbass
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,187

    What federal money goes to illegals?
    Sorry I meant tax paying citizens for illegals schooling and things like hospitals having to provide emergency care for illegals, my bad.
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,525

    Sorry I meant tax paying citizens for illegals schooling and things like hospitals having to provide emergency care for illegals, my bad.
    As a taxpayer I have no problem with my money going to pay for an "illegal" child hit by a car or suffering in any way whatsoever.

    Think it through please.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited June 2016

    As a taxpayer I have no problem with my money going to pay for an "illegal" child hit by a car or suffering in any way whatsoever.

    Think it through please.
    And illegals have no problem not contributing a dime in taxes to that same child.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,743
    PJPOWER said:

    And illegals have no problem not contributing a dime in taxes to that same child.
    so false. if they buy goods they pay taxes. the only things illegals don't pay taxes on is income...or the same as people like Donald Trump.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,698
    pjhawks said:

    so false. if they buy goods they pay taxes. the only things illegals don't pay taxes on is income...or the same as people like Donald Trump.
    Exactly and they get payed less than anyone else who happens to be documented they are not making the same as you or I ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,257

    Exactly and they get payed less than anyone else who happens to be documented they are not making the same as you or I ..
    To add to this, I'll bet they'd gladly trade paying the same income taxes in exchange for having the same working regulations applied to them as American citizens. Of course that won't happen, as what Trump neglects to mention is that a cheap and unregulated workforce, while unethical, helps America's economy. If I'm a business owner without a strong moral compass, would I pay $5 an hour to an employee who appreciates it and works his or her ass off for as many hours as I tell him or her to, and who I can dismiss when I feel like it, or pay twice that for an employee who works half as hard, won't work over a certain amount of hours, and comes with liability to the business? This is a decision that tons of business owners make (probably Trump included), because their primary concern is the bottom line.
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,187

    As a taxpayer I have no problem with my money going to pay for an "illegal" child hit by a car or suffering in any way whatsoever.

    Think it through please.
    Cool, if you have no problem paying for someone else's bills then send me some cash for my savings. Better yet, I need new windows but I don't really want to pay for the install. I'll pm you my paypal.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,743

    Cool, if you have no problem paying for someone else's bills then send me some cash for my savings. Better yet, I need new windows but I don't really want to pay for the install. I'll pm you my paypal.
    just be like Trump. hire contractors, agree to a price, but when done pay whatever you like and let them try to sue you
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,187
    pjhawks said:

    just be like Trump. hire contractors, agree to a price, but when done pay whatever you like and let them try to sue you
    I like that plan! Or be like Hillary and take Gern's money all the while lying through my teeth and acting like I hate him and vowing to fight him and stuff?
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,978
    Someone's polling numbers have fallen fast
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,243
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,340
    PJPOWER said:

    And illegals have no problem not contributing a dime in taxes to that same child.
    yeah they are all takers, soaking up all the resources....

    there are more poor white americans on social programs than undocumented workers.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,340

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    what does it matter if obama doesn't say "radical islamic terrorism"? you conservatives are really really hung up on that. does it make a difference?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,340
    edited June 2016
    PJ_Soul said:

    Self hating? Wtf?
    apparently those of us who oppose fighting a war and are all about moving this country forward in effort to improve it are self hating.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,340
    pjhawks said:

    just be like Trump. hire contractors, agree to a price, but when done pay whatever you like and let them try to sue you
    i like this idea. let's vote for trump and make this the new american way!!
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,648

    I agree with immigration reform that's not what dreams & GF & I guess you want to deport everybody outta here you guys are wrong & so is Trump so go ahead keep on yelling about the immigrants !!
    I don't think it's realistic to deport everyone since we let the problem get so big before fixing it. And part of fixing it is making it easier for some to become citizens. I have no love for trump overall but doesn't mean he is wrong on everything.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117

    Someone's polling numbers have fallen fast

    he is going to sink like a rock...

    because people know this shit isn't a game
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,340
    Trump's policy plan.

    1. Pick any issue.
    2.????????????
    3. america is made great again.


    just like the underpants gnomes.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    PJ_Soul said:

    I object to the deletion. It is within the guidlines.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,340
    Trump Unveils Plan to Crush ISIS: 'I Know How to Bankrupt a Large Organization'

    Andy Borowitz
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  • Trump's policy plan.

    1. Pick any issue.
    2.????????????
    3. america is made great again.

    1. Pick any issue from this list https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
    2. Realize the sense of it.
    3. Enact it and America will be great again.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,340

    1. Pick any issue from this list https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
    2. Realize the sense of it.
    3. Enact it and America will be great again.
    america never was as great as it could have been. and trump will never be president.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • ^^^
    This is like saying when Hillary is president she will not be mine.
    Tell us then, how great could've America been?
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    apparently those of us who oppose fighting a war and are all about moving this country forward in effort to improve it are self hating.
    You think you're moving it forward through your "tolerance" but your inability to confront the radicalism that is slowly penetrating and consuming mainstream Islam is actually moving your country and the world backwards. 11 Islamic countries have laws on the books that state homosexuality is punishable by death. These countries oppress gays. These countries oppress women. These countries oppress christians. These countries oppress jews. Children are raised in these countries to believe these things and for many years they have come to our shores. Some are coming here due to their own persecution but when they come they do not leave their beliefs behind. Those beliefs come here and grow within their communities. Omar Mateen's father holds these views. The Iranian Imam who was welcomed into the Orlando community holds these views. These views are slowly but surely becoming mainstream and our westernized world has become so self hating to the point that we no longer confront these evil views here or overseas as we do not want to offend. We bend over backwards to be tolerant of the intolerant and refuse to impose our views of acceptance onto an islamic culture that is regressing. We will all regress with them.
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