Trump

1…107108110112113…623

Comments

  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    mrussel1 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/6/13/11924134/donald-trump-orlando-shooter-afghan

    How stupid is this guy? It's been in the news for a full day that the gunman was born and raised in the USA.

    He knows that. He's speaking to the least common denominator. See how carefully he parsed his words? Because his parents immigrated, he was born an Afghan. More dog whistling.
    Trumps mother was an immigrant... so is his wife.. Pot meet Kettle
    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    myoung321 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Does someone agree with this statement?
    A radical Islamic terrorist targeted the nightclub not only because he wanted to kill Americans, but in order to execute gay and lesbian citizens because of their sexual orientation,” Mr. Trump said. “It’s a strike at the heart and soul of who we are as a nation. It’s an assault on the ability of free people to live their lives, love who they want and express their identity.”

    If we're defining terrorism as a fundamentalist who murders people, let's be sure we use the term consistently.

    Timothy McVie killed 168 in OKC... was he a Christian Terrorist or just a whack job? Be consistant
    I refer to him as a Christian terrorist, so I am consistent.
  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    mrussel1 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    This has nothing to do with Trump.
    We have to stop giving a platform for the religious.
    So as was stated earlier, Trump wants to build a wall against the crazies.

    He wants to build a wall against crazies? Is he walling in Westboro Baptist? How about much of the state of Florida, will that be walled off? I think you got confused. Mexico isn't Arkham Asylum.

    now that was funny!

    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    myoung321 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    This has nothing to do with Trump.
    We have to stop giving a platform for the religious.
    So as was stated earlier, Trump wants to build a wall against the crazies.


    Are you drunk posting?
    It was a response to mrrussel when he posted this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/los-angeles-gay-pride-arrest_us_575da27fe4b0ced23ca85716

    It was an attempt to get the thread back on track as it was showing signs of a religion battle.

    Not what the Trump thread is for.
  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    edited June 2016
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:


    mrussel1 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Enkidu said:

    josevolution said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Trump called it once again. He tweeted this out before it was "confirmed" by the press.
    Was there any doubt who it was?
    Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!

    Fuck him his the last person this country needs to hear from in time of such tragedy fuck you Trump !!!
    What Jose said. "Appreciate the congrats." There are 50 dead people - what an asshat.
    When will people ever wake up. http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/politics/orlando-shooting-obama-political-reaction/
    Trump is being proved right with every incident like this happening. You guys live for the mourning it seems.
    Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn't he should immediately resign in disgrace!
    Reporting that Orlando killer shouted "Allah hu Akbar!" as he slaughtered clubgoers. 2nd man arrested in LA with rifles near Gay parade,"

    Every tragedy people want to drop politics while we let people mourn, well guess what, those aluha chocolate bar guys are planning the next place to hit. It is on your soil now and Trump is right about a temporary ban on people of the islamic faith entering the country to figure this shit out.
    How many more suicide bombers will it take before you admit that these radical islamists need to be exterminated. You guys are the ones they are after, each and every single non-aluha chocolate bar believer.
    Okay, so which political issue would have been more effective at eliminating or reducing this tragedy? We have two choices:

    1. Stop Muslims from entering the country
    2. Ban assault weapons

    Hmmmm. let me see... Considering this guy was an American citizen... I think that answer is pretty easy Mr Trump and his minions (in the states and Canada).
    I think the Iranian Imam who preached death to gays at the Orlando Mosque should have been stopped from entering the country. Stopping that incitement might have actually helped. It is unfortunate that you are more concerned with Trump's theoretical incitement over the actual Radical Islamic teachings that led to these murders. If you don't confront these Islamic thought leaders then all the gun bans in the world will not save you. An assault weapons ban certainly didn't prevent the Paris attacks.
    You brought up Trumps tweet, not me.
    I don't believe I did.
    Perhaps it was PJ.
    I think it was. That being said I hope you can agree with me that banning that Iranian Imam from entering the US would be acceptable?
    I don't know the circumstances of him, when he entered, or what he said. But I'm going to judge from the gist of the comments that he was speaking death to gays or something. If we have that knowledge before he enters, then no, of course not. He should not be allowed in.

    I would doubt that any of the liberals here (or most anywhere) believe that we should all anyone, Muslim or not, to gain residency without full investigation or background research. IMO, people who could be considered a 'risk' should have additional scrutiny based on risk factors. Young males, Irish hooligans, soccer fans, etc.
    Good. How about those who embrace sharia?

    We need to recognize that it's not ISIS that inspires hatred towards gays but actually a significant component of Islamic teachings.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436505/mass-shooting-florida-anti-gay-violence-rooted-muslim-law

    It is that kind of thought that must be confronted and rejected in total.
    And as we all know, All Christian groups are all overwhelming pro gay rights ;).....haha
    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2016
    myoung321 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    josevolution said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Revoking the Washington Post's press credentials because he doesn't like their reporting. This is what North Korea looks like, folks...

    The dude is a full blown idiot & dangerous !
    If Fox news got their credentials revoked would you guys be saying the same thing?
    I mean freedom of the press and all that stuff right...

    Yes,,, and any real Progressive will agree. This is exactly what this discussion is about. In a free society you don't run around banning people, ideas, religions..etc.. just because you don't agree with them..
    Yes you can because you have the freedom of doing that.

    one could say that things get banned here on this forum no?
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,052
    the shooter was born in new york. he was an american citizen.

    he was not "born in aghan" like dumbfuck trump would have us all believe.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited June 2016


    Trumps mother was an immigrant... so is his wife.. Pot meet Kettle


    Two wives, in fact.
    Post edited by mrussel1 on
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    myoung321 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    josevolution said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Revoking the Washington Post's press credentials because he doesn't like their reporting. This is what North Korea looks like, folks...

    The dude is a full blown idiot & dangerous !
    If Fox news got their credentials revoked would you guys be saying the same thing?
    I mean freedom of the press and all that stuff right...

    Yes,,, and any real Progressive will agree. This is exactly what this discussion is about. In a free society you don't run around banning people, ideas, religions..etc.. just because you don't agree with them..
    Yes you can because you have the freedom of doing that.

    one could say that things get banned here on this forum no?
    This is a private server. People and words may be banned on private property.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    Is a country with a border not private property and decides who comes and goes?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Is a country with a border not private property and decides who comes and goes?

    Uh. Is this really a discussion? Yes of course the US has the power under the Constitution to ban immigration. It absolutely does not have teh power to revoke citizenship as Godfather suggested earlier today though.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    Deporting illegals, not citizens is what Trump will do.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Deporting illegals, not citizens is what Trump will do.

    What do you do with illegals who have had children on American soil and they are minors?
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    Apparently that is the current issue.
    Trump wants to stop this situation from happening again and again for now.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Apparently that is the current issue.
    Trump wants to stop this situation from happening again and again for now.

    That's not an answer. There isn't one. That's why there had to be a pathway to citizenship.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    Well not really,
    What did people illegally entering a country expect?
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Apparently that is the current issue.
    Trump wants to stop this situation from happening again and again for now.

    Will Trump be able to deport more than Obama has?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Well not really,
    What did people illegally entering a country expect?

    Can you expand on this?
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    I don't have the numbers on that one.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    mrussel1 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Well not really,
    What did people illegally entering a country expect?

    Can you expand on this?
    Brass tacks - You know if you're illegal and it will be a matter of time until that issue is addressed.
    Trump welcomes all as long as they are legal.
This discussion has been closed.

Categories