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BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I guess I am just also intrigued by your lack of concern or even acknowledgement that Trump incites racism and is using it in his campaign. Your denial of something that seems so self-evident I suppose comes off as support, since that level denial usually accompanies blind support for something. So apologies for the misconception.

No worries. I just happen to disagree on "the incites racism" bit. He is aggressively confronting sacred cows (illegal immigration, radical Islam, etc..) which discomforts the progressive and the establishment class. I have been called a racist on these boards for discussing the same. It is simply a label that I find unacceptable and is used by others to try and shut down speech. There is plenty to attack Trump on, lots of which I would agree with, but the political correctness angle will lose me every time.

BS44325 said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I guess I am just also intrigued by your lack of concern or even acknowledgement that Trump incites racism and is using it in his campaign. Your denial of something that seems so self-evident I suppose comes off as support, since that level denial usually accompanies blind support for something. So apologies for the misconception.

No worries. I just happen to disagree on "the incites racism" bit. He is aggressively confronting sacred cows (illegal immigration, radical Islam, etc..) which discomforts the progressive and the establishment class. I have been called a racist on these boards for discussing the same. It is simply a label that I find unacceptable and is used by others to try and shut down speech. There is plenty to attack Trump on, lots of which I would agree with, but the political correctness angle will lose me every time.

Lets have your definition of racism then. Curious to know.

It's not about my definition...it's about the definition:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/racism

As you can see the concept of superiority/inferiority has a lot to do with it...no matter what Paul Ryan says.

BS44325 said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I guess I am just also intrigued by your lack of concern or even acknowledgement that Trump incites racism and is using it in his campaign. Your denial of something that seems so self-evident I suppose comes off as support, since that level denial usually accompanies blind support for something. So apologies for the misconception.

No worries. I just happen to disagree on "the incites racism" bit. He is aggressively confronting sacred cows (illegal immigration, radical Islam, etc..) which discomforts the progressive and the establishment class. I have been called a racist on these boards for discussing the same. It is simply a label that I find unacceptable and is used by others to try and shut down speech. There is plenty to attack Trump on, lots of which I would agree with, but the political correctness angle will lose me every time.

Lets have your definition of racism then. Curious to know.

It's not about my definition...it's about the definition:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/racism

As you can see the concept of superiority/inferiority has a lot to do with it...no matter what Paul Ryan says.

So, if one has to assume that some individuals in a particular race are good people, doesn't that mean that one is assuming the majority are not? Sounds like a belief in superiority to me... and everyone but you lol

I have posed this question to you a number of times and I can't recall you actually addressing it without deflection.

I probably haven't answered it because you keep asking it in a way that is beyond understandable.

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I guess I am just also intrigued by your lack of concern or even acknowledgement that Trump incites racism and is using it in his campaign. Your denial of something that seems so self-evident I suppose comes off as support, since that level denial usually accompanies blind support for something. So apologies for the misconception.

No worries. I just happen to disagree on "the incites racism" bit. He is aggressively confronting sacred cows (illegal immigration, radical Islam, etc..) which discomforts the progressive and the establishment class. I have been called a racist on these boards for discussing the same. It is simply a label that I find unacceptable and is used by others to try and shut down speech. There is plenty to attack Trump on, lots of which I would agree with, but the political correctness angle will lose me every time.

Lets have your definition of racism then. Curious to know.

It's not about my definition...it's about the definition:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/racism

As you can see the concept of superiority/inferiority has a lot to do with it...no matter what Paul Ryan says.

So, if one has to assume that some individuals in a particular race are good people, doesn't that mean that one is assuming the majority are not? Sounds like a belief in superiority to me... and everyone but you lol

I have posed this question to you a number of times and I can't recall you actually addressing it without deflection.

I probably haven't answered it because you keep asking it in a way that is beyond understandable.

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I guess I am just also intrigued by your lack of concern or even acknowledgement that Trump incites racism and is using it in his campaign. Your denial of something that seems so self-evident I suppose comes off as support, since that level denial usually accompanies blind support for something. So apologies for the misconception.

No worries. I just happen to disagree on "the incites racism" bit. He is aggressively confronting sacred cows (illegal immigration, radical Islam, etc..) which discomforts the progressive and the establishment class. I have been called a racist on these boards for discussing the same. It is simply a label that I find unacceptable and is used by others to try and shut down speech. There is plenty to attack Trump on, lots of which I would agree with, but the political correctness angle will lose me every time.

Lets have your definition of racism then. Curious to know.

It's not about my definition...it's about the definition:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/racism

As you can see the concept of superiority/inferiority has a lot to do with it...no matter what Paul Ryan says.

So, if one has to assume that some individuals in a particular race are good people, doesn't that mean that one is assuming the majority are not? Sounds like a belief in superiority to me... and everyone but you lol

I have posed this question to you a number of times and I can't recall you actually addressing it without deflection.

I probably haven't answered it because you keep asking it in a way that is beyond understandable.

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I guess I am just also intrigued by your lack of concern or even acknowledgement that Trump incites racism and is using it in his campaign. Your denial of something that seems so self-evident I suppose comes off as support, since that level denial usually accompanies blind support for something. So apologies for the misconception.

No worries. I just happen to disagree on "the incites racism" bit. He is aggressively confronting sacred cows (illegal immigration, radical Islam, etc..) which discomforts the progressive and the establishment class. I have been called a racist on these boards for discussing the same. It is simply a label that I find unacceptable and is used by others to try and shut down speech. There is plenty to attack Trump on, lots of which I would agree with, but the political correctness angle will lose me every time.

Lets have your definition of racism then. Curious to know.

It's not about my definition...it's about the definition:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/racism

As you can see the concept of superiority/inferiority has a lot to do with it...no matter what Paul Ryan says.

So, if one has to assume that some individuals in a particular race are good people, doesn't that mean that one is assuming the majority are not? Sounds like a belief in superiority to me... and everyone but you lol

I have posed this question to you a number of times and I can't recall you actually addressing it without deflection.

I probably haven't answered it because you keep asking it in a way that is beyond understandable.

Haha...mister I don't care what a known chicken hawk has to say. Clearly you care. Once Gambs posts an actual question I will be happy to answer. Then you can reply with your intelligent ad hominem.

I asked a question that is obviously articulate enough for someone of your intelligence to answer. You are known to me as intelligent and honest, and I have backed you on that before, so please don't make me into a liar.

BS44325 said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I guess I am just also intrigued by your lack of concern or even acknowledgement that Trump incites racism and is using it in his campaign. Your denial of something that seems so self-evident I suppose comes off as support, since that level denial usually accompanies blind support for something. So apologies for the misconception.

No worries. I just happen to disagree on "the incites racism" bit. He is aggressively confronting sacred cows (illegal immigration, radical Islam, etc..) which discomforts the progressive and the establishment class. I have been called a racist on these boards for discussing the same. It is simply a label that I find unacceptable and is used by others to try and shut down speech. There is plenty to attack Trump on, lots of which I would agree with, but the political correctness angle will lose me every time.

Lets have your definition of racism then. Curious to know.

It's not about my definition...it's about the definition:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/racism

As you can see the concept of superiority/inferiority has a lot to do with it...no matter what Paul Ryan says.

So, if one has to assume that some individuals in a particular race are good people, doesn't that mean that one is assuming the majority are not? Sounds like a belief in superiority to me... and everyone but you lol

I have posed this question to you a number of times and I can't recall you actually addressing it without deflection.

I probably haven't answered it because you keep asking it in a way that is beyond understandable.

Haha...mister I don't care what a known chicken hawk has to say. Clearly you care. Once Gambs posts an actual question I will be happy to answer. Then you can reply with your intelligent ad hominem.

I asked a question that is obviously articulate enough for someone of your intelligence to answer. You are known to me as intelligent and honest, and I have backed you on that before, so please don't make me into a liar.

I for real do not understand your question as you have just phrased it. Would you care to try again?

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I guess I am just also intrigued by your lack of concern or even acknowledgement that Trump incites racism and is using it in his campaign. Your denial of something that seems so self-evident I suppose comes off as support, since that level denial usually accompanies blind support for something. So apologies for the misconception.

No worries. I just happen to disagree on "the incites racism" bit. He is aggressively confronting sacred cows (illegal immigration, radical Islam, etc..) which discomforts the progressive and the establishment class. I have been called a racist on these boards for discussing the same. It is simply a label that I find unacceptable and is used by others to try and shut down speech. There is plenty to attack Trump on, lots of which I would agree with, but the political correctness angle will lose me every time.

So BS, what about race and discussions of race gets shut down? What do you want to talk about, but can't? What's the difference when someone says something racist vs. just "aggressively confronting" an issue?

Well in politics/academia any discussion of illegal immigration always leads to accusations of racism. It is pretty much inevitable. What Trump is doing is aggressively confronting the sacred cows surrounding the issue. Mentioning crimes that are actually occurring is tough to hear but that in it of itself is not racism.

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I guess I am just also intrigued by your lack of concern or even acknowledgement that Trump incites racism and is using it in his campaign. Your denial of something that seems so self-evident I suppose comes off as support, since that level denial usually accompanies blind support for something. So apologies for the misconception.

No worries. I just happen to disagree on "the incites racism" bit. He is aggressively confronting sacred cows (illegal immigration, radical Islam, etc..) which discomforts the progressive and the establishment class. I have been called a racist on these boards for discussing the same. It is simply a label that I find unacceptable and is used by others to try and shut down speech. There is plenty to attack Trump on, lots of which I would agree with, but the political correctness angle will lose me every time.