Trump

PJfanwillneverleave1 · June 2016

^^^
Because he may be a racist in his eyes and he's ok with that.
Just because you call someone racist doesn't mean they really are.

BS44325 · June 2016

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:
If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.

I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.

And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.

Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.
On the contrary...where is your evidence that this judge had done anything wrong? It could be true but I have not seen that reported anywhere. This should be a claim that you have to prove before tarnishing the reputation of this judge.
You're the one who posted the issue. And I am not claiming or denying anything, as I already said. I am asking you for info showing that the administration did this solely because of her ethnicity because YOU claimed that but showed nothing confirming or even suggesting that. In what YOU posted it actually states that they did it because she had shown some behaviour that caused them to make that decision - that there were "improprieties" - but you're saying that's not the case. Why??

Here's more info on the case:

http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=379550390

Degeneratefk · June 2016

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:
If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.

I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.

And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.

Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.
On the contrary...where is your evidence that this judge had done anything wrong? It could be true but I have not seen that reported anywhere. This should be a claim that you have to prove before tarnishing the reputation of this judge.
If Curiel is biased, why hasn't his counsel filed for recusal? There's a very simple answer: Lack of merit and attorney sanctions. Therefore Trump is trying to litigate the matter a personal matter as part of the campaign. What a fool.
I completely agree with you on this. Where I part ways is on the charges of racism.

So Paul Ryan thinks trumps statements were the textbook definition of racism, but thats not good enough for you?

Degeneratefk · June 2016

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
^^^
Because he may be a racist in his eyes and he's ok with that.
Just because you call someone racist doesn't mean they really are.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

mrussel1 · June 2016

Degeneratefk said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:
If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.

I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.

And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.

Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.
On the contrary...where is your evidence that this judge had done anything wrong? It could be true but I have not seen that reported anywhere. This should be a claim that you have to prove before tarnishing the reputation of this judge.
If Curiel is biased, why hasn't his counsel filed for recusal? There's a very simple answer: Lack of merit and attorney sanctions. Therefore Trump is trying to litigate the matter a personal matter as part of the campaign. What a fool.
I completely agree with you on this. Where I part ways is on the charges of racism.
So Paul Ryan thinks trumps statements were the textbook definition of racism, but thats not good enough for you?

You can throw in McCain, Romney, etc. It ain't just liberals.

dignin · June 2016

mrussel1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:
If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.

I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.

And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.

Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.
On the contrary...where is your evidence that this judge had done anything wrong? It could be true but I have not seen that reported anywhere. This should be a claim that you have to prove before tarnishing the reputation of this judge.
If Curiel is biased, why hasn't his counsel filed for recusal? There's a very simple answer: Lack of merit and attorney sanctions. Therefore Trump is trying to litigate the matter a personal matter as part of the campaign. What a fool.
I completely agree with you on this. Where I part ways is on the charges of racism.
So Paul Ryan thinks trumps statements were the textbook definition of racism, but thats not good enough for you?
You can throw in McCain, Romney, etc. It ain't just liberals.

The thing that I don't get is how some people can say "Well, he says racist things, but that doesn't necessarily mean hes a racist."

Fuck that. That makes it crystal clear to me that he is a racist. People claiming different are either really, really.......really dumb or their pants are on fire.

And if you can even entertain the idea of voting for someone who is openly racist.....well.....that should say a lot about someone.

mrussel1 · June 2016

The major media outlets have filed a motion with the court to release the video depositions of Trump in the 'University' case. Trump's lawyers, of course, plan to oppose the release. I imagine they must not be flattering. I find it interesting that every major network and newspaper has signed on to the motion with the exception of Fox News. Now you might scream 'liberal media', but every journalist that covers the election has the obligation to obtain as much information as possible. Fox will abdicate that responsibility of course.

This issue can do irreparable damage the very core of Trump's message. Swindling the average American is as bad as it gets. We've spent pages screaming about the overt racism, but I'm not sure we (and the media) have spent nearly enough time talking about the fact the U was a total con.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/06/trump-university-media-video-depositions-224213

PJfanwillneverleave1 · June 2016

People felt conned after the fact they didn't become billionaires overnight. Greed.

mrussel1 · June 2016

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
People felt conned after the fact they didn't become billionaires overnight. Greed.

^^ this is very funny.

But it's clear from the playbook that was released, that the goal of the U was not to educate the 'students', but to separate the consumers from their money. Whether the suit has merit is for the courts, but the concept is damning for someone who wants to be President. It's far worse than Romney and his PE business which got lots of bad PR.

Go Beavers · June 2016

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:
Empathy doesn't mean there's going to be bias. I'd say empathy is part of a judge's job.
In sentencing maybe but not in decision making.

In decision making there's listening, and in listening there's empathy.

Ledbetterman10 · June 2016

lol at Trump suggesting Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger and Dana White give speeches on his behalf on at the RNC. Roethlisberger has already declined. And I'm sure Brady will too. But just the thought is hilarious.

BS44325 · June 2016

Degeneratefk said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:
If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.

I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.

And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.

Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.
On the contrary...where is your evidence that this judge had done anything wrong? It could be true but I have not seen that reported anywhere. This should be a claim that you have to prove before tarnishing the reputation of this judge.
If Curiel is biased, why hasn't his counsel filed for recusal? There's a very simple answer: Lack of merit and attorney sanctions. Therefore Trump is trying to litigate the matter a personal matter as part of the campaign. What a fool.
I completely agree with you on this. Where I part ways is on the charges of racism.
So Paul Ryan thinks trumps statements were the textbook definition of racism, but thats not good enough for you?

Nope

mrussel1 · June 2016

BS44325 said:

Degeneratefk said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:
If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.

I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.

And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.

Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.
On the contrary...where is your evidence that this judge had done anything wrong? It could be true but I have not seen that reported anywhere. This should be a claim that you have to prove before tarnishing the reputation of this judge.
If Curiel is biased, why hasn't his counsel filed for recusal? There's a very simple answer: Lack of merit and attorney sanctions. Therefore Trump is trying to litigate the matter a personal matter as part of the campaign. What a fool.
I completely agree with you on this. Where I part ways is on the charges of racism.
So Paul Ryan thinks trumps statements were the textbook definition of racism, but thats not good enough for you?
Nope

Do you need an old fashioned lynching as evidence?'

Either way, it's a distraction from the main point. We all know Trump is a racist or... intentionally uses racial language. However, Trump U. is a wonderful example of how he is a con artist. Part of me thinks this is media manipulation from the true story. If those video depos are released, I'm guessing that's gonna hurt.

BS44325 · June 2016

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

Degeneratefk said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:
If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.

I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.

And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.

Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.
On the contrary...where is your evidence that this judge had done anything wrong? It could be true but I have not seen that reported anywhere. This should be a claim that you have to prove before tarnishing the reputation of this judge.
If Curiel is biased, why hasn't his counsel filed for recusal? There's a very simple answer: Lack of merit and attorney sanctions. Therefore Trump is trying to litigate the matter a personal matter as part of the campaign. What a fool.
I completely agree with you on this. Where I part ways is on the charges of racism.
So Paul Ryan thinks trumps statements were the textbook definition of racism, but thats not good enough for you?
Nope
Do you need an old fashioned lynching as evidence?'

Either way, it's a distraction from the main point. We all know Trump is a racist or... intentionally uses racial language. However, Trump U. is a wonderful example of how he is a con artist. Part of me thinks this is media manipulation from the true story. If those video depos are released, I'm guessing that's gonna hurt.

Ha...and there it is! "An old fashion lynching"! That is the exact idiocy I'm talking about. It really is so silly and demeans the whole history of people who were subjugated to actual racism in your country.

Now as far as Trump University is concerned you could be absolutely right. I have no idea which way that case will go but if you think it is disqualifying to Trump I wonder what your thoughts would be with repsect to Clinton University...

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/youve-heard-of-trump-university-but-what-about-clinton-university/article/2593571

It looks like Hillary was giving grants to Laureate University, Bill was taking kickbacks, and all the while it was the students who were getting screwed!

Let's see you defend Crooked Hillary now!

PJ_Soul · June 2016

That is very damning; one must wonder why the Trump campaign isn't all over it.... I guess because bringing it up will just further highlight Trump's own ponzi scheme, eh?
I wouod like to know if Hillary was even aware of the lack of investment in academic in this case. That they worked so hard to get Bill in there earning $16 million in 5 years is not surprising in the least. So BS.... how does this story make Hillary worse than Trump? Just curious to know what makes Trump more worthy of your admiration or whatever the fuck it is you're feeling about him. Better than Clinton for you, I'm gathering.

BS44325 · June 2016

PJ_Soul said:
That is very damning; one must wonder why the Trump campaign isn't all over it.... I guess because bringing it up will just further highlight Trump's own ponzi scheme, eh?

You could be right. The actions of the Trump campaign (if there even is one) never makes sense to me. That being said there could be a little rope-a-dope going on.

PJ_Soul · June 2016

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:
That is very damning; one must wonder why the Trump campaign isn't all over it.... I guess because bringing it up will just further highlight Trump's own ponzi scheme, eh?
You could be right. The actions of the Trump campaign (if there even is one) never makes sense to me. That being said there could be a little rope-a-dope going on.

I added a question to my post... why choose Trump over Clinton, as you have appeared to do?

mrussel1 · June 2016

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

Degeneratefk said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:
If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.

I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.

And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.

Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.
On the contrary...where is your evidence that this judge had done anything wrong? It could be true but I have not seen that reported anywhere. This should be a claim that you have to prove before tarnishing the reputation of this judge.
If Curiel is biased, why hasn't his counsel filed for recusal? There's a very simple answer: Lack of merit and attorney sanctions. Therefore Trump is trying to litigate the matter a personal matter as part of the campaign. What a fool.
I completely agree with you on this. Where I part ways is on the charges of racism.
So Paul Ryan thinks trumps statements were the textbook definition of racism, but thats not good enough for you?
Nope
Do you need an old fashioned lynching as evidence?'

Either way, it's a distraction from the main point. We all know Trump is a racist or... intentionally uses racial language. However, Trump U. is a wonderful example of how he is a con artist. Part of me thinks this is media manipulation from the true story. If those video depos are released, I'm guessing that's gonna hurt.
Ha...and there it is! "An old fashion lynching"! That is the exact idiocy I'm talking about. It really is so silly and demeans the whole history of people who were subjugated to actual racism in your country.

Now as far as Trump University is concerned you could be absolutely right. I have no idea which way that case will go but if you think it is disqualifying to Trump I wonder what your thoughts would be with repsect to Clinton University...

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/youve-heard-of-trump-university-but-what-about-clinton-university/article/2593571

It looks like Hillary was giving grants to Laureate University, Bill was taking kickbacks, and all the while it was the students who were getting screwed!

Let's see you defend Crooked Hillary now!

Really? Walden University? You mean the fully accredited institution that was started in 1970? Or do you mean Laureate, which was started by the guy that started Sylvan Learning Center which is highly respected in the States. Laureate is exporting US style liberal education around the world. Are you against that? This is completely inline with what the Clinton Foundation does.

So let's point out the differences:

1. Only one of these is part of a class action law suit in the US
2. Only one has the name of the presumptive nominee on the door
3. Only one has the presumptive nominee on film in the deposition
3. Only one had a 'playbook' that specifically described how to separate consumers from their money, by encouraging them to run up their credit cards "We don't take excuses and neither does Mr. ~~Clinton~~ Trump."

Edit - and I love this statement by the Examiner And like other Clinton scandals, it appears Laureate Education was above the law, skirting "gainful employment" regulations by having a large number of schools outside the U.S. with students that did not receive federal aid

The whole fucking point of the program is to export US education around the world. However, the Examiner decided their business model was enacted to skirt gainful employment regs. Are they also pissed that the students in Spain did not receive federal student aid?

mrussel1 · June 2016

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

Degeneratefk said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:
If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.

I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.

And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.

Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.
On the contrary...where is your evidence that this judge had done anything wrong? It could be true but I have not seen that reported anywhere. This should be a claim that you have to prove before tarnishing the reputation of this judge.
If Curiel is biased, why hasn't his counsel filed for recusal? There's a very simple answer: Lack of merit and attorney sanctions. Therefore Trump is trying to litigate the matter a personal matter as part of the campaign. What a fool.
I completely agree with you on this. Where I part ways is on the charges of racism.
So Paul Ryan thinks trumps statements were the textbook definition of racism, but thats not good enough for you?
Nope
Do you need an old fashioned lynching as evidence?'

Either way, it's a distraction from the main point. We all know Trump is a racist or... intentionally uses racial language. However, Trump U. is a wonderful example of how he is a con artist. Part of me thinks this is media manipulation from the true story. If those video depos are released, I'm guessing that's gonna hurt.
Ha...and there it is! "An old fashion lynching"! That is the exact idiocy I'm talking about. It really is so silly and demeans the whole history of people who were subjugated to actual racism in your country.

Now as far as Trump University is concerned you could be absolutely right. I have no idea which way that case will go but if you think it is disqualifying to Trump I wonder what your thoughts would be with repsect to Clinton University...

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/youve-heard-of-trump-university-but-what-about-clinton-university/article/2593571

It looks like Hillary was giving grants to Laureate University, Bill was taking kickbacks, and all the while it was the students who were getting screwed!

Let's see you defend Crooked Hillary now!

And this statement makes no sense. I'm just asking what YOU need to see in order to call something racism, since Trump's statements obviously don't meet your standard of excellence.

BS44325 · June 2016

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:
That is very damning; one must wonder why the Trump campaign isn't all over it.... I guess because bringing it up will just further highlight Trump's own ponzi scheme, eh?
You could be right. The actions of the Trump campaign (if there even is one) never makes sense to me. That being said there could be a little rope-a-dope going on.
I added a question to my post... why choose Trump over Clinton, as you have appeared to do?

I've stated before that I'm not a Trump supporter. That probably gets lost in the weeds with my dislike for the Clintons and my arguments against labeling Trump as a racist. Truthfully I do not like either but I haven't actually decided yet who would be worse.

Trump

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