Animals in Captivity

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Thankfully Rush can see through all the BS and is asking the question that really matters.

    “Don’t doubt me on this. A lot of people think that all of us used to be gorillas, and they’re looking for the missing link out there. The evolution crowd. They think we were originally apes... If we were the original apes, then how come Harambe is still an ape, and how come he didn’t become one of us?”

    Don't doubt him on this folks.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rush-limbaugh-gorillas-evolution_us_574e5de6e4b0757eaeb10be0
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited June 2016
    dignin said:

    Thankfully Rush can see through all the BS and is asking the question that really matters.

    “Don’t doubt me on this. A lot of people think that all of us used to be gorillas, and they’re looking for the missing link out there. The evolution crowd. They think we were originally apes... If we were the original apes, then how come Harambe is still an ape, and how come he didn’t become one of us?”

    Don't doubt him on this folks.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rush-limbaugh-gorillas-evolution_us_574e5de6e4b0757eaeb10be0

    Holy fuck. :loser::lol: Limbaugh is just an awful moron. I can't believe he has actual fans. None of them could possibly have an IQ over 85.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    Thankfully Rush can see through all the BS and is asking the question that really matters.

    “Don’t doubt me on this. A lot of people think that all of us used to be gorillas, and they’re looking for the missing link out there. The evolution crowd. They think we were originally apes... If we were the original apes, then how come Harambe is still an ape, and how come he didn’t become one of us?”

    Don't doubt him on this folks.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rush-limbaugh-gorillas-evolution_us_574e5de6e4b0757eaeb10be0

    Holy fuck. :loser::lol: Limbaugh is just an awful moron. I can't believe he has actual fans. None of them could possibly have an IQ over 85.
    You want to feel like your living in Idiocracy times? Check this out.

    June Gallup poll: It found 42 percent of Americans believe God created humans “in their present form 10,000 years ago,” disputing scientific consensus that humanity slowly evolved from primates over millions of years.



    That moron is definitely not alone. And we wonder how so many Americans can be supporting Trump. Whelp.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/29/pope-francis-may-believe-in-evolution-but-42-percent-of-americans-do-not/
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    baffling.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,082
    how many hundreds of thousands of kids did NOT go into the enclosure and lead directly to the death of an ape?

    either the parents, or the enclosure have been successful 99.9999999% of the time.

    this is such a sad story.

    i am not a parent so it is easy for me to say "should have been watching your shitty kid", but i work in a children's hospital and i see every single day how easy it is for a parent to lose sight of their kid. i think any parent that says that they have never lost sight of their kid for a single split second is lying.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    Question: same situation but the gorilla is the last known female in the world. Do you still take the shot?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • how many hundreds of thousands of kids did NOT go into the enclosure and lead directly to the death of an ape?

    either the parents, or the enclosure have been successful 99.9999999% of the time.

    this is such a sad story.

    i am not a parent so it is easy for me to say "should have been watching your shitty kid", but i work in a children's hospital and i see every single day how easy it is for a parent to lose sight of their kid. i think any parent that says that they have never lost sight of their kid for a single split second is lying.

    This is true; however, the responsibility for the supervision of the child still rests with the parent.

    We have all lost attention to the road while driving as well. Fortunately, at least for me, nothing bad happened as I did. But if something bad did happen as a result of me not paying as much attention as I should have been paying in that moment... I don't think 'we all have lapses in concentration while we drive' would serve as a valid defence.

    As evidenced... the zoo design was flawed, but the flaw was exposed by a toddler that eluded his mother's supervision. It might have been lightning fast... it might have been absolute neglect... but ultimately, it doesn't matter- we have what we have. I'm glad the kids is unharmed and it's unfortunate for the gorilla.

    People should stop going to zoos and aquariums. In my opinion, the gorilla never should have been there in the first place.
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  • mcgruff10 said:

    Question: same situation but the gorilla is the last known female in the world. Do you still take the shot?

    A good question. My answer is 'yes'.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    "It was amazing because there were moments with the gorilla, the way he held that child, it was almost like a mother holding a baby. Looked so beautiful and calm and there were moments where it looked pretty dangerous," Trump went on to say. "I don't think they had a choice. I mean, probably they didn't have a choice. You have a child, a young child who is at stake, and, you know, it's too bad there wasn't another way. I thought it was so beautiful to watch that, you know, powerful, almost 500-pound gorilla, the way he dealt with that little boy, but it just takes one second. It's one second. It's not like it takes place over, well, he's going to do it in 30 seconds from now. It just takes one little flick of his finger, and I will tell you they probably had no choice."
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Rescue Mission Launched As Thousands Stranded On Higher Moral Ground

    A WORLDWIDE rescue mission has been launched today after thousands of internet commentators were left stranded on higher moral ground in dangerously ignorant conditions, following an incident in a Cincinnati zoo where a gorilla was shot in a bid to protect a young boy.

    Internet rescue service personnel have been inundated with emergency calls from people trapped in comment sections, many of whom are incredibly passionate about news stories they can jump to conclusions on without reading the facts.

    “It’s very hard to gain access to the higher moral ground. It’s tough for rescuers to get past the raging statements made without even a cursory look at the information, and conditions overhead aren’t great as we’ve to weather a torrent of mindless abuse,” explained lead rescuer Don Franklin.

    In fact, several panicked victims resorted to lambasting the parents of the child in question in a bid to survive the gushing stream of opinions engulfing social media.

    “Could I wait until the information is gathered before forming an opinion? Of course, but where’s the fun in that, plus they’re African American and the father also has a criminal record: I read in the Mail Online,” said one man who has been trapped on the moral high ground since Saturday. “What kind of neglectful parent brings their kids to the zoo like that anyway? Surely there’s a law against people who have spent time in cages, visiting animals in cages?”

    Many experts in the field of ape psychology have since come forward to point out how the child was obviously safer being dragged underwater by 800 pound gorilla, who has spent most of its incarcerated life in cramped conditions while being stared at by noisy humans with flashing camera phones.

    “Split second decisions which are made in high pressure situations all in the name of protecting a child are my bread and butter, so trust me when I say I knew exactly what they should have done in that moment. I’m actually livid the Zoo didn’t contact me,” shared Alan Boland from Waterford, a father of none and avid nature program fan.

    “That poor animal should have been talked down using bananas and sign language. All gorillas know sign language and they should have coaxed him away from the child with bananas. Simple” he concluded.

    If you have been affected by a gorilla tragedy, please leave your comment below. If you have not been affected by a gorilla tragedy, do not let that stop you.

    http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2016/06/01/rescue-mission-launched-as-thousands-stranded-on-higher-moral-ground/
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    CH156378 said:

    "It was amazing because there were moments with the gorilla, the way he held that child, it was almost like a mother holding a baby. Looked so beautiful and calm and there were moments where it looked pretty dangerous," Trump went on to say. "I don't think they had a choice. I mean, probably they didn't have a choice. You have a child, a young child who is at stake, and, you know, it's too bad there wasn't another way. I thought it was so beautiful to watch that, you know, powerful, almost 500-pound gorilla, the way he dealt with that little boy, but it just takes one second. It's one second. It's not like it takes place over, well, he's going to do it in 30 seconds from now. It just takes one little flick of his finger, and I will tell you they probably had no choice."

    I'm not sure why you put this in here, but if you're saying he said something wrong, I'm not sure what it is.

    If you're saying he said something right, I don't see what the big deal is.....what he said seems pretty regular and is likely a commonly-held opinion.....unless I'm not seeing something or have missed something. >?
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    edited June 2016
    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    Thankfully Rush can see through all the BS and is asking the question that really matters.

    “Don’t doubt me on this. A lot of people think that all of us used to be gorillas, and they’re looking for the missing link out there. The evolution crowd. They think we were originally apes... If we were the original apes, then how come Harambe is still an ape, and how come he didn’t become one of us?”

    Don't doubt him on this folks.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rush-limbaugh-gorillas-evolution_us_574e5de6e4b0757eaeb10be0

    Holy fuck. :loser::lol: Limbaugh is just an awful moron. I can't believe he has actual fans. None of them could possibly have an IQ over 85.
    Do you personally know the answer to that offhand though?

    Do you right now know why there are still apes if they were supposed to have evolved into humans?

    Not to be argumentative, I mean I was lucky enough to watch a show specifically about this and how evolution happened for some apes but not others, but to tell you the truth, had I not seen this TV show, I honestly don't know if I can answer the question as to why there are still apes, so I'm curious what knowing this has to do with IQ.

    Again, just curious if you have a quick answer, I'd appreciate it, Thanks!

    Edit, P>S. If you have to now research it on the internet, does it mean you have an IQ of 85, but are suddenly not a fucking moron immediately after you know the answer? Just curious about that too, thanks :)



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  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    chadwick said:

    what if the boy was wearing a fashionable fresh bologna vest made up at the butcher shop earlier that morning.....

    image

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    rollings said:


    Edit, P>S. If you have to now research it on the internet, does it mean you have an IQ of 85, but are suddenly not a fucking moron immediately after you know the answer? Just curious about that too, thanks :)



    Love how your mind works, rollings.

    One of these days, I hope to have a good long visit with you and the chadwick.

  • hedonist said:

    rollings said:


    Edit, P>S. If you have to now research it on the internet, does it mean you have an IQ of 85, but are suddenly not a fucking moron immediately after you know the answer? Just curious about that too, thanks :)



    Love how your mind works, rollings.

    One of these days, I hope to have a good long visit with you and the chadwick.

    He can join Team Slap for all our follies! He'd fit in for sure.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    rollings is a lovely chica, Thirty :)

    (and she'd hang with - possibly rule - the slappers!)
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Glad to see that the rescue mission worked and we have a few of you safely back in this thread!

    ;)
  • hedonist said:

    rollings is a lovely chica, Thirty :)

    (and she'd hang with - possibly rule - the slappers!)

    Sooo...

    We're essentially shaping up like the Scooby Doo/ Mystery Machine outfit?

    If people start taking us not very serious... we'll have to reevaluate.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    rollings said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    Thankfully Rush can see through all the BS and is asking the question that really matters.

    “Don’t doubt me on this. A lot of people think that all of us used to be gorillas, and they’re looking for the missing link out there. The evolution crowd. They think we were originally apes... If we were the original apes, then how come Harambe is still an ape, and how come he didn’t become one of us?”

    Don't doubt him on this folks.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rush-limbaugh-gorillas-evolution_us_574e5de6e4b0757eaeb10be0

    Holy fuck. :loser::lol: Limbaugh is just an awful moron. I can't believe he has actual fans. None of them could possibly have an IQ over 85.
    Do you personally know the answer to that offhand though?

    Do you right now know why there are still apes if they were supposed to have evolved into humans?

    Not to be argumentative, I mean I was lucky enough to watch a show specifically about this and how evolution happened for some apes but not others, but to tell you the truth, had I not seen this TV show, I honestly don't know if I can answer the question as to why there are still apes, so I'm curious what knowing this has to do with IQ.

    Again, just curious if you have a quick answer, I'd appreciate it, Thanks!

    Edit, P>S. If you have to now research it on the internet, does it mean you have an IQ of 85, but are suddenly not a fucking moron immediately after you know the answer? Just curious about that too, thanks :)



    honestly, I can't personally give a detailed description of the hows or whys. I know that I knew and that it made sense at one point, but can I explain it at the moment? no. but we all know that pretty much any adult who has to ask this question is woefully ignorant.

    it's like, do I know the science behind gravity? I did once, in science class. I understood its fundamentals, and I know it was the prevailing theory. but not being able to scientifically explain its properties is not the same as believing it's God hands holding me in place.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited June 2016
    Not all animals evolve the same was and rate.

    A polar bear has adapted and evolved to its environment differently than a black bear.

    Some apes didn't need tree climbing skills as much as they needed to walk and evolved accordingly.
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