2016 Democratic Presidential Candidates

callen · February 2016

Jason P said:

callen said:

JimmyV said:
The "Sanders can't win!" argument has some merit because the terms "Socialist" and "Democratic Socialist" will scare the hell out of many voters. It will happen.

The problem Democrats and left-leaning independents face is that the Democratic Socialist guy is the only alternative left to a career politician with a history of scandal and who is currently under investigation by the FBI. Not some bogus and partison Congressional committee, but the Federal Bureau of Investigation. President Barack Obama's justice system.

Hard to argue that this current FBI is part of the "Vast Right-wing Conspiracy." That the Democratic Establishment want voters to ignore their hand chosen and longtime presumptive frontrunner being under federal investigation is a bridge too far.

Bernie Sanders can't win. Hillary Clinton shouldn't win. And together they represent our only alternative to Trump, Cruz, Rubio, etc.

Worst election cycle I have ever seen and we have miles to go before anyone sleeps.
Have had these same thoughts.

My biggest fear, Cruz and Bernie left after dust settles.

Then Cruz winning. It's a very real possibility.

Just hope if Hillary is indicted it happens soon. Maybe Bloomberg does enter. Yeah I know many don't like but sure as hell better than "President Cruz".

I shudder as I write this.
I think the GOP going to start backing Rubio as we speak ... or in this case, post. No one likes Cruz. But I do think Cruz is the smartest and most shrewd candidate. He was considered a long shot in the Texas senate race and won. I think he understands the game better then any other candidate.

He's got huge following and will win in many states. He also plays well on anti establishment angle.

rr165892 · February 2016

Cruz will loose the middle road moderates like myself that can't stand the religious grand standing and pandering.
Get used to hearing "President Rubio".
He has some big behind the scene support.

JimmyV · February 2016

Doesn't Rubio have a penchant for religious grandstanding as well? Only watched a few minutes of the last GOP debate but that did stick out.

Gern Blansten · February 2016

Rubio doesn't have a chance. Charging $20K home improvements on a GOP party credit card will come back to haunt him. Plus his horrible personal financial management aside from the credit card issue.

JimmyV · February 2016

We could make an argument that every candidate in this race is doomed by something. Somebody has to win though.

Leezestarr313 · February 2016

I wonder about something. Not that familiar with the American system (yet), so please forgive me if this is a stupid question. So I am reading that people are registered as Republican or Democrat voters. Let's say there is a person who is a teacher and has a tradition of voting Republican. What I wonder is how people like that feel now that there are just these clowns available for election. Do people like that really in their right mind go and vote for someone like Trump or Cruz, even if their programs go completely against the mind set that someone like a teacher might have? How fixed is this whole "registering Democrat or Republican"? Can you change that? And how long does it take?

I also recently read that some people think Bill Clinton might suffer from Parkinson's disease, even though he is denying it. Would that affect a possible election of Hillary?

rgambs · February 2016

Leezestarr313 said:
I wonder about something. Not that familiar with the American system (yet), so please forgive me if this is a stupid question. So I am reading that people are registered as Republican or Democrat voters. Let's say there is a person who is a teacher and has a tradition of voting Republican. What I wonder is how people like that feel now that there are just these clowns available for election. Do people like that really in their right mind go and vote for someone like Trump or Cruz, even if their programs go completely against the mind set that someone like a teacher might have? How fixed is this whole "registering Democrat or Republican"? Can you change that? And how long does it take?

I also recently read that some people think Bill Clinton might suffer from Parkinson's disease, even though he is denying it. Would that affect a possible election of Hillary?

It varies from state to state, but it isn't that hard to change in most cases. In Ohio, at the primary I declare a party affiliation and I can only vote for a candidate from that party. When the general election comes you can vote for whomever you choose.

Leezestarr313 · February 2016

I see. Thanks for explaining

Gern Blansten · February 2016

Leezestarr313 said:
I wonder about something. Not that familiar with the American system (yet), so please forgive me if this is a stupid question. So I am reading that people are registered as Republican or Democrat voters. Let's say there is a person who is a teacher and has a tradition of voting Republican. What I wonder is how people like that feel now that there are just these clowns available for election. Do people like that really in their right mind go and vote for someone like Trump or Cruz, even if their programs go completely against the mind set that someone like a teacher might have? How fixed is this whole "registering Democrat or Republican"? Can you change that? And how long does it take?

I also recently read that some people think Bill Clinton might suffer from Parkinson's disease, even though he is denying it. Would that affect a possible election of Hillary?

Yes Leezestar they most certainly vote against their own self interest.

I blame the internet. Low information voters feel like they are informed when they aren't.

brianlux · February 2016

Gern Blansten said:

Leezestarr313 said:
I wonder about something. Not that familiar with the American system (yet), so please forgive me if this is a stupid question. So I am reading that people are registered as Republican or Democrat voters. Let's say there is a person who is a teacher and has a tradition of voting Republican. What I wonder is how people like that feel now that there are just these clowns available for election. Do people like that really in their right mind go and vote for someone like Trump or Cruz, even if their programs go completely against the mind set that someone like a teacher might have? How fixed is this whole "registering Democrat or Republican"? Can you change that? And how long does it take?

I also recently read that some people think Bill Clinton might suffer from Parkinson's disease, even though he is denying it. Would that affect a possible election of Hillary?
Yes Leezestar they most certainly vote against their own self interest.

I blame the internet. Low information voters feel like they are informed when they aren't.

Good point Gern but I also think people have tended generally to vote party line well before the internet.

And before the internet came along, most people got their information from whatever biased news source they subscribed to. I remember back in the 70's when a friend told be about the British (then print) newspaper, The Guardian. When I started reading that paper it was like looking at a different world than what I'd previously been shown.

Free · February 2016

I don't know abut you guys, but in my area which is relatively conservative, there is more hate for Hillary then there is favoritism for trumpet or Cruz. Thinking that Hillary is a for sure deal, makes no sense when so many people hate her. I don't know how people think that she was ever a for sure thing.

JimmyV · February 2016

Free said:
I don't know abut you guys, but in my area which is relatively conservative, there is more hate for Hillary then there is favoritism for trumpet or Cruz. Thinking that Hillary is a for sure deal, makes no sense when so many people hate her. I don't know how people think that she was ever a for sure thing.

I 100% agree. Democrats believe they have this unbeatable national coalition but a Hillary Clinton candidacy likely undoes that because she will drive GOP voter turnout to previously unseen heights. Plus, we are already seeing an enthusiasm gap between her and Sanders.

Bernie has his own problems as a national candidate but the idea that Hillary will be unbeatable in November is wishful thinking.

Free · February 2016

And the reasons so many hate her aren't even really spelled out from what I can tell. It's like a pimple on one's ass.
No explanation.

In a govt system where corporations and corrupt Wall Street prevail, it's a no brainier to want a guy like Sanders in.

brianlux · February 2016

It seems to me many or maybe even most of those who hate Hillary do so either because she is a Dem and/or because she is a woman. Yet despite the fact that neither of those biases are a good reason by themselves to not like her, I don't think those factors alone or even combined are what might go against her being elected. I think what may impede her that way is that many people who, given the right candidate, would be excited by the idea of a female Democrat elected as president but will not vote for Hillary simple because she is Hillary. These are people who are tired of the same old b.s. and don't want more of the same b.s. whether that person be male or female. Let's wait and give the honor of first Lady President to someone more worthy like Elizabeth Warren and go with Bernie in the meantime.

JonnyPistachio · February 2016

I just realized i'm not registered to a particular party (Florida). I've got to find the time to send in my updated status so i might vote in the primaries. I think im more interested in the primaries than the general election! haha

PJ_Soul · February 2016

JonnyPistachio said:
I just realized i'm not registered to a particular party (Florida). I've got to find the time to send in my updated status so i might vote in the primaries. I think im more interested in the primaries than the general election! haha

Hey, look who came to visit!

F Me In The Brain · February 2016

JonnyPistachio said:
I just realized i'm not registered to a particular party (Florida). I've got to find the time to send in my updated status so i might vote in the primaries. I think im more interested in the primaries than the general election! haha

The Glassmanimal!

The media tells everyone what to believe and the worst thing that happened to this process in my opinion was when they started publishing polls. People think that they need to pick Trump, Cruz, Sanders, or Clinton because that is who other people like in a poll. Sorta kills the idea of the debates or learning about each liar to determine which one lies the least, or lies in favor of how you lean politically.

brianlux · February 2016

Welcome back to the train, Jon! I know you've been busy with all kinds of baby terrain!

F Me In The Brain said:

JonnyPistachio said:
I just realized i'm not registered to a particular party (Florida). I've got to find the time to send in my updated status so i might vote in the primaries. I think im more interested in the primaries than the general election! haha
The Glassmanimal!

The media tells everyone what to believe and the worst thing that happened to this process in my opinion was when they started publishing polls. People think that they need to pick Trump, Cruz, Sanders, or Clinton because that is who other people like in a poll. Sorta kills the idea of the debates or learning about each liar to determine which one lies the least, or lies in favor of how you lean politically.

Yeah, without the ability or desire to think critically, polls are just flat out harmful.

Free · February 2016

Another thing about Hillary, although I am not one of them, Americans are nuts about guns, Just nuts. She is on a strict anti-gun mission, something I personally don't mind. But if she's looking for votes, which of course she is, going completely anti-gun is not going to get you a lot of votes.

Free · February 2016

Polls are the media's best friend, and They mean absolutely nothing. Talk about manipulation, they are done purely to manipulate the public.

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