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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Meanwhile back in Israel....how nice of them.
    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/01/31/israel-to-create-western-wall-area-for-men-and-women-to-pray-together.html
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    If I ever visit I will use my PJ AIRBNB discount...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/airbnb-slammed-for-offering-rooms-with-a-view-in-jewish-settlements/2016/02/01/fd1717ac-c39f-11e5-b933-31c93021392a_story.html
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663
    I personally don't think that Airbnd should be expected to consider politics. That is up to the renters IMO.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    As was mentioned several times in the failed PJ Play Israel campaign threads - being involved in any way in Israel is being involved in their politics....especially when you are taking a cut of the profits from the squatters / thieves.
    Lame that PJ has aligned with this company in the midst of that controversy. Can only hope it was ignorance and not acceptance.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663
    edited February 2016
    I figure anyone on the face of the planet should be able to list their home on Airbnb, no matter where the place is. How people personally want to react to that is up to them, but I don't think that Airbnb should have such restrictions (FTR, I agree that listing that place in the Jewish settlement is in bad taste, but that is neither here nor there as far as the right to list on Airbnb goes IMO). And FWIW, I'm talking exclusively about Airbnb here. This is not an opinion that somehow bleeds over into, say, my opinions about economic sanctions, etc.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    I understand why you'd feel that way but the problem for me begins and ends with 'their home'. If you steal the land your home sits on, or as in many cases, the home itself, you should not be able to list. And Airbnb should not be taking money from such an arrangement.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663
    edited February 2016
    Drowned Out said:

    I understand why you'd feel that way but the problem for me begins and ends with 'their home'. If you steal the land your home sits on, or as in many cases, the home itself, you should not be able to list. And Airbnb should not be taking money from such an arrangement.

    Hmmm. Well how far does this go down the chain as far as ownership goes? I have no idea what role the home owner has in the process of stealing land. I don't know what the process is to purchase said land, I don't know how much the owner knows about the land, what his political views actually are, how the land purchase was brokered, etc etc etc. This just does not seem like an issue that Airbnb should be involved in at all. It's simply expecting too much from such a company IMO. I understand your thinking here. It's just that these issues are too complicated all over the world on many different levels, not just Israel, and if Airbnb got into this, they'd have to get into it all over the place. I'm not big on the slippery slope theory at all, but this is one case where I actually think it makes sense. Next thing you know people will be calling for Airbnb to get involved where someone is renting out property on land that some Native band is claiming as theirs, some wife who claims that a home is rightly hers and not her husband's, etc etc etc etc. This kind of issue simply is not Airbnb's fight.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,358
    At a minimum, it should be required to list its actual location. Within a disputed(illegal) settlement.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,041
    Drowned Out said:

    I understand why you'd feel that way but the problem for me begins and ends with 'their home'. If you steal the land your home sits on, or as in many cases, the home itself, you should not be able to list. And Airbnb should not be taking money from such an arrangement.

    i agree, but airbnb will do whatever is best for its bottom line.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    rssesq said:

    Drowned Out said:

    Leave it to the New York Times to call this a 'new brand' of jewish terror....settler attacks are as old as the occupation.
    Mondoweiss is dedicated to calling this type of stuff out - one of it's main focuses is scrutinizing articles in the 'paper of record'.

    This is pretty sickening....won't be using airbnb.

    http://972mag.com/airbnb-lets-you-vacation-in-illegal-west-bank-settlements/115666/

    Brian Chesky. I'm shocked.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited February 2016
    Would be remiss of me to not say that I wish these were my words.
    This sums up nicely the problem over there. 4:30 on
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pmArHBW9ns

    edit - refulgence is a new word learned
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,358
    Shining example of democracy.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/02/netanyahu-seeks-suspend-palestinian-politicians-160207132204345.html
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Good article on the current state of play...and it's not a good one.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/hamass-new-leadership-may-return-to-suicide-bombings/article28751340/?service=mobile
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,358
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/02/palestinians-571m-emergency-services-160211055214546.html
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,358
    Yay shining beacon of middle east democracy!!!!

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/02/enemy-duty-netanyahu-160216051431240.html
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Mickey your sure a big fan of Al-Jazeera.
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    sadly, Al-J is more fair and balanced on this issue than any other news outlet as every editor there, is not a dual citizenship holder. jus sayin
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,358
    rr165892 said:

    Mickey your sure a big fan of Al-Jazeera.

    Point me to another source that isnt so blatantly biased toward israel like any american media is.

    Think the fact is, AJ has access that others are denied by israel. They also have the willingness to present other perspective.
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    But are they blatantly biased in opposition of Israel?

  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    niet, lol
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