Making a Murderer (Crime-Docu similar to West Memphis Three case)

dignin · January 2016

If you want to go down a rabbit hole of alternative theories check out some of the links in this article. Reddit is all over this.

http://fusion.net/story/249427/netflix-making-a-murderer-what-happened-theories/

William Wallace · January 2016

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I dont think anything that is being pushed as 'left out' is particularly ground-breaking as far as evidence goes. Especially in light of the foul play that has *probably occurred here.

I absolutely agree.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

These simple idiots are smart enough to thoroughly cleanse a crime scene of any trace remnants that would link them to the murder... but leave the deceased's vehicle on their lot with a couple twigs on top of it to hide it... not to mention the charred remains outside the front door of their trailer?

Things just don't add up. I too question culpability with the circumstantial evidence against them, but it's not near enough to convict them in my mind.

That does not fit at all and makes no sense - you are absolutely right.

Gern Blansten · January 2016

Right but again they had a few days to clean up and the police force wasn't necessarily expert on these type of situations either.

I rewatched a few episodes last night. I will say that after seeing the whole documentary and following up on other articles it does still shock me that Avery might be guilty. His demeanor just doesn't match a killer. The news reporters were interviewing him right out in front of his house and asking about what the police were asking, etc. His responses immediately seemed to jump to the police trying to frame him so you could argue that he was going to use that as a defense from the beginning but it still seems like his demeanor would be shaky.

If he would have refused to talk to the news I would feel stronger that he was the murderer.

Plus...as Strang pointed out yesterday, Halbach knew she was going to the Avery property. If she really had strong fears about Steven she most likely would have said something.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · January 2016

Gern Blansten said:
Right but again they had a few days to clean up and the police force wasn't necessarily expert on these type of situations either.

I rewatched a few episodes last night. I will say that after seeing the whole documentary and following up on other articles it does still shock me that Avery might be guilty. His demeanor just doesn't match a killer. The news reporters were interviewing him right out in front of his house and asking about what the police were asking, etc. His responses immediately seemed to jump to the police trying to frame him so you could argue that he was going to use that as a defense from the beginning but it still seems like his demeanor would be shaky.

If he would have refused to talk to the news I would feel stronger that he was the murderer.

Plus...as Strang pointed out yesterday, Halbach knew she was going to the Avery property. If she really had strong fears about Steven she most likely would have said something.

His defensive instincts against the police might have been as strong as anyone in America's.

Gern Blansten · January 2016

http://www.tmz.com/2016/01/06/steven-avery-brothers-murder-teresa-halbach/

Interesting...

dimitrispearljam · January 2016

Im at 8th episode..wow!!

Thirty Bills Unpaid · January 2016

Gern Blansten said:
http://www.tmz.com/2016/01/06/steven-avery-brothers-murder-teresa-halbach/

Interesting...

Interesting for sure.

Indifference71 · January 2016

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Gern Blansten said:
http://www.tmz.com/2016/01/06/steven-avery-brothers-murder-teresa-halbach/

Interesting...
Interesting for sure.

Very interesting. More potential suspects that they should have looked into.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · January 2016

Indifference71 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Gern Blansten said:
http://www.tmz.com/2016/01/06/steven-avery-brothers-murder-teresa-halbach/

Interesting...
Interesting for sure.
Very interesting. More potential suspects that they should have looked into.

But so hellbent on making their case given the indignity they were suffering for their previous work which saw them wrongfully convict an innocent man.

dimitrispearljam · January 2016

I was convinced he is.innocent after saw the lady saying how she found the car and by the phonecall of the officer asking if the plate number was correct while is clear he was reading the plate like he had the car infront of him
Those 2 was lying..

JWPearl · January 2016

no one is lying the other is just following like a true dishonest bad smell
im certain.....!!!

dimitrispearljam · January 2016

And something about the documantary
For me is so clear that from the moment they didnt left not even a single suspition for the guy-s who might do.it..that tells me they have already someone in mind and either cant find evidence against him/them or they keep secret for a new trial and use them

Thirty Bills Unpaid · January 2016

dimitrispearljam said:
I was convinced he is.innocent after saw the lady saying how she found the car and by the phonecall of the officer asking if the plate number was correct while is clear he was reading the plate like he had the car infront of him
Those 2 was lying..

Yes. These items were troubling for sure.

So much stinkiness.

MayDay10 · January 2016

Gern Blansten said:
http://www.tmz.com/2016/01/06/steven-avery-brothers-murder-teresa-halbach/

Interesting...

I think the 'easiest' reasonable doubt case would put the brother(s) on the crime. You can probably build a pretty plausible timeline surrounding them... at least just as plausible as the Steve Avery timeline

Thirty Bills Unpaid · January 2016

I'm not saying I think it was the brothers, but for the most part... they have been ignored. Even the film glossed over them at best as it shed light on the character of the family- it's like they lurked in the background almost avoiding the camera.

Were they ever at the trial in attendance from the camera's vantage?

Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh · January 2016

dimitrispearljam said:
I was convinced he is.innocent after saw the lady saying how she found the car and by the phonecall of the officer asking if the plate number was correct while is clear he was reading the plate like he had the car infront of him
Those 2 was lying..

Yes this was the biggest thing for me too. A cop calls in a plate, it ends up being her car and nothing is done! How does that get by?

Gern Blansten · January 2016

I'm rewatching a l

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I'm not saying I think it was the brothers, but for the most part... they have been ignored. Even the film glossed over them at best as it shed light on the character of the family- it's like they lurked in the background almost avoiding the camera.

Were they ever at the trial in attendance from the camera's vantage?

It was actually Earl that gave permission for the search party to search the junkyard on the day they found the vehicle. Steven was out when the Sheriff came by to see if they would give them permission.

Gern Blansten · January 2016

I'm rewatching the episode where they question Colburn about calling in the license plate

To me it seems that he was informed that there was a missing person and was most likely given her name, vehicle description and license plate #. He called into his office to have the plate # run to make sure it matched the information that he was given

I don't see foul play there

dimitrispearljam · January 2016

Gern Blansten said:
I'm rewatching the episode where they question Colburn about calling in the license plate

To me it seems that he was informed that there was a missing person and was most likely given her name, vehicle description and license plate #. He called into his office to have the plate # run to make sure it matched the information that he was given

I don't see foul play there

Man..the guy is lying..its crystal..he even lied that he didnt tell the numbers but the girl.in police center told them to him.firat..and they replay the recording
and he was clearly said the number like he read them.in front of him..as always cops do..stop or see a car call center say the numbers of plate and center gives them information

Gern Blansten · January 2016

dimitrispearljam said:

Gern Blansten said:
I'm rewatching the episode where they question Colburn about calling in the license plate

To me it seems that he was informed that there was a missing person and was most likely given her name, vehicle description and license plate #. He called into his office to have the plate # run to make sure it matched the information that he was given

I don't see foul play there
Man..the guy is lying..its crystal..he even lied that he didnt tell the numbers but the girl.in police center told them to him.firat..and they replay the recording
and he was clearly said the number like he read them.in front of him..as always cops do..stop or see a car call center say the numbers of plate and center gives them information

Right....but it's also possible that he was given her information (name, make of car, license #) and then called in to verify the license # that he was given. That's why he said "99 Toyota?" when the operator confirmed the plate.

Making a Murderer (Crime-Docu similar to West Memphis Three case)

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