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Wtf?!brianlux said:
WTF?mcgruff10 said:
You are a legal adult. What s the issue? Good enough to go to war but can't buy your own ammo?brianlux said:
Anyone over 18 can buy ammo on-line? Oh, that;s just lovely.mcgruff10 said:
It depends on the state. In nj you need a rifle/shotgun firearms identification card to buy handgun ammo. When you order online some places make you fax a copy of your liscense to prove you are over 18.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^^
When you buy ammo in the US do you need to provide anything? (id, etc)
Or can you just walk into a store and buy it?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Well shoot, man, I may be a legal adult but you don't want on old guy like me going to war, trust me!mcgruff10 said:
Wtf?!brianlux said:
WTF?mcgruff10 said:
You are a legal adult. What s the issue? Good enough to go to war but can't buy your own ammo?brianlux said:
Anyone over 18 can buy ammo on-line? Oh, that;s just lovely.mcgruff10 said:
It depends on the state. In nj you need a rifle/shotgun firearms identification card to buy handgun ammo. When you order online some places make you fax a copy of your liscense to prove you are over 18.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^^
When you buy ammo in the US do you need to provide anything? (id, etc)
Or can you just walk into a store and buy it?"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I think mcgruff meant at 18 you are a legal adult.brianlux said:
Well shoot, man, I may be a legal adult but you don't want on old guy like me going to war, trust me!mcgruff10 said:
Wtf?!brianlux said:
WTF?mcgruff10 said:
You are a legal adult. What s the issue? Good enough to go to war but can't buy your own ammo?brianlux said:
Anyone over 18 can buy ammo on-line? Oh, that;s just lovely.mcgruff10 said:
It depends on the state. In nj you need a rifle/shotgun firearms identification card to buy handgun ammo. When you order online some places make you fax a copy of your liscense to prove you are over 18.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^^
When you buy ammo in the US do you need to provide anything? (id, etc)
Or can you just walk into a store and buy it?0 -
That I did.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I think mcgruff meant at 18 you are a legal adult.brianlux said:
Well shoot, man, I may be a legal adult but you don't want on old guy like me going to war, trust me!mcgruff10 said:
Wtf?!brianlux said:
WTF?mcgruff10 said:
You are a legal adult. What s the issue? Good enough to go to war but can't buy your own ammo?brianlux said:
Anyone over 18 can buy ammo on-line? Oh, that;s just lovely.mcgruff10 said:
It depends on the state. In nj you need a rifle/shotgun firearms identification card to buy handgun ammo. When you order online some places make you fax a copy of your liscense to prove you are over 18.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^^
When you buy ammo in the US do you need to provide anything? (id, etc)
Or can you just walk into a store and buy it?
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
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Oh the warm blanket that coddles you in the night. How wonderful. Let's not think of all the death and destruction carried out using this age old trick to get the ones seeking comfort to hate, wage war and kill others that have a different snuggle blanket.hedonist said:Agreed, rr.
We all have different means of coping - or crutches, as PJ_Soul mentioned. Again, without flinging those means at others, insisting everyone else use them, I don't see the harm.
Whatever gets you through the night (and to your own personal light), it's alright.
Cruz trump and others are using this to rile up the troops. Humans such herd animals.
Sooner we put this Idiocracy behind us the better.Post edited by callen on10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
In Ohio You have to be at least 18 years old and click on the payment screen that you are a legal US citizen to buy ammo. That's it. I don't think there's a limit, but I'd hope to think that the store wouldn't let you walk out with full grocery cart or pallet full of ammo.mcgruff10 said:
I m pretty sure the vast majority of states you just need to be of age. Nj is one of the few states that have a separate firearms Id card to purchase a weapon.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Thanks. Wasn't quite sure how that worked.mcgruff10 said:
It depends on the state. In nj you need a rifle/shotgun firearms identification card to buy handgun ammo. When you order online some places make you fax a copy of your liscense to prove you are over 18.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^^
When you buy ammo in the US do you need to provide anything? (id, etc)
Or can you just walk into a store and buy it?
Is there a state that you know of where you need nothing to buy?Post edited by PP193448 on2006 Clev,Pitt; 2008 NY MSGx2; 2010 Columbus; 2012 Missoula; 2013 Phoenix,Vancouver,Seattle; 2014 Cincy; 2016 Lex, Wrigley 1&2; 2018 Wrigley 1&2; 2022 Louisville0 -
Agreed. just like not all Muslims are radical extremists...mcgruff10 said:
Nearly 750,000 hunters went deer hunting last week in Pennsylvania. Think about it, millions of rounds of ammunition and nearly 3/4 of a million firearms and not one mass shooting or murder. The vast vast majority of gun owners are responsible. It s the very small percentage as usual that fuck it up for everyone.Bentleyspop said:
You're right gf guns don't kill peopleGodfather. said:the bitch left a note/comments for isis on Facebook ?
time to wake up and smell the coffee liberals, it's not a gun problem......it is a people problem !
locking down our borders would be a good start.
Godfather.
Gun owners with legally purchased and registered guns kill people.
But to argue with myself, it is way too easy to get guns and ammo. Laws need to be little bit stricter IMO.2006 Clev,Pitt; 2008 NY MSGx2; 2010 Columbus; 2012 Missoula; 2013 Phoenix,Vancouver,Seattle; 2014 Cincy; 2016 Lex, Wrigley 1&2; 2018 Wrigley 1&2; 2022 Louisville0 -
Particularly in our Ohio.PP193448 said:
Agreed. just like not all Muslims are radical extremists...mcgruff10 said:
Nearly 750,000 hunters went deer hunting last week in Pennsylvania. Think about it, millions of rounds of ammunition and nearly 3/4 of a million firearms and not one mass shooting or murder. The vast vast majority of gun owners are responsible. It s the very small percentage as usual that fuck it up for everyone.Bentleyspop said:
You're right gf guns don't kill peopleGodfather. said:the bitch left a note/comments for isis on Facebook ?
time to wake up and smell the coffee liberals, it's not a gun problem......it is a people problem !
locking down our borders would be a good start.
Godfather.
Gun owners with legally purchased and registered guns kill people.
But to argue with myself, it is way too easy to get guns and ammo. Laws need to be little bit stricter IMO._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Where we supply guns for crimes all across the more civilized regions of this country.mickeyrat said:
Particularly in our Ohio.PP193448 said:
Agreed. just like not all Muslims are radical extremists...mcgruff10 said:
Nearly 750,000 hunters went deer hunting last week in Pennsylvania. Think about it, millions of rounds of ammunition and nearly 3/4 of a million firearms and not one mass shooting or murder. The vast vast majority of gun owners are responsible. It s the very small percentage as usual that fuck it up for everyone.Bentleyspop said:
You're right gf guns don't kill peopleGodfather. said:the bitch left a note/comments for isis on Facebook ?
time to wake up and smell the coffee liberals, it's not a gun problem......it is a people problem !
locking down our borders would be a good start.
Godfather.
Gun owners with legally purchased and registered guns kill people.
But to argue with myself, it is way too easy to get guns and ammo. Laws need to be little bit stricter IMO.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Oops. Sorry. My above comment was to purchase ammo, not firearms. They do background check for that and you must be 18 and US citizen. Sorry if I misquoted. I thought Mcgruff was referring to ammo. Corrected my comment.
But unless you have a criminal background, you can get a gun. You can only get 1 handgun per week, if you get more than the local police get involved. No limit to rifles. Plus you can gift firerms to someone but they are supposed to register it (I doubt it happens much). You cannot buy a firearm for someone else directly from a store. Unless you are licensed you cannot legally sell a firearm to someone else, but you can sell it back to an authorized dealer.
I agree with Obama... Why the hell would you sell a firearm to someone on a no fly list... WTF? But isn't that the fucking half ass US governments job to ensure that shouldn't happen. Why don't people get fired for this shit?? Too many worthless government jobs here in the US.Post edited by PP193448 on2006 Clev,Pitt; 2008 NY MSGx2; 2010 Columbus; 2012 Missoula; 2013 Phoenix,Vancouver,Seattle; 2014 Cincy; 2016 Lex, Wrigley 1&2; 2018 Wrigley 1&2; 2022 Louisville0 -
I get it, I get it. Religion bad. Humans hopeless, mindless.callen said:
Oh the warm blanket that coddles you in the night. How wonderful. Let's not think of all the death and destruction carried out using this age old truck go get the ones seeking comfort to hate, wage war and kill others that have a different snuggle blanket.hedonist said:Agreed, rr.
We all have different means of coping - or crutches, as PJ_Soul mentioned. Again, without flinging those means at others, insisting everyone else use them, I don't see the harm.
Whatever gets you through the night (and to your own personal light), it's alright.
Cruz trump and others are using this to rile up the troops. Humans such herd animals.
Sooner we put this Idiocracy behind us the better.
Fine if that's your view, callen, but that has zero to do with what I was talking about.0 -
Unless you buy via private sale then ALL BETS ARE OFF.PP193448 said:Oops. Sorry. My above comment was to purchase ammo, not firearms. They do background check for that and you must be 18 and US citizen. Sorry if I misquoted. I thought Mcgruff was referring to ammo. Corrected my comment.
But unless you have a criminal background, you can get a gun. You can only get 1 handgun per week, if you get more than the local police get involved. No limit to rifles. Plus you can gift firerms to someone but they are supposed to register it (I doubt it happens much). You cannot buy a firearm for someone else directly from a store. Unless you are licensed you cannot legally sell a firearm to someone else, but you can sell it back to an authorized dealer.
I agree with Obama... Why the hell would you sell a firearm to someone on a no fly list... WTF? But isn't that the fucking half ass US governments job to ensure that shouldn't happen. Why don't people get fired for this shit?? Too many worthless government jobs here in the US._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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no problem....what's a xenophobe ? fear of what ?PJ_Soul said:
What a sick comment. No acknowledgment of the fact that a man born in America did it and was likely the real influence here. I guess that is somehow secondary to bigots.Godfather. said:the bitch left a note/comments for isis on Facebook ?
time to wake up and smell the coffee liberals, it's not a gun problem......it is a people problem !
locking down our borders would be a good start.
Godfather.
Stop being such a fucking xenophobe GF.
what my only real fear is, is that people like you keep extending excuses for the events that keep happening and blaming these mass murders on all religions as if it's a way...your way to rationalize the actions of foreign attackers, the smell of coffee is in the air and some of you refuse to take notice, excusing these deranged people wont save your ass if they decide to shoot up or blow up a place you might be at the time.
try thinking like a survivor rather than someone who lives day to day with excuses, just say'n.
Godfather.
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Your comment on coping mechanism and choice has everything to do with it. It's all bullshit. The sooner more humans just say, "NO fkn way Noah put all animals on a Boat and all humans weren't descendants of Adam and Eve" the sooner we get past this religious crap. But we dont want to offend. And politicians will continue to play us as fools.hedonist said:
I get it, I get it. Religion bad. Humans hopeless, mindless.callen said:
Oh the warm blanket that coddles you in the night. How wonderful. Let's not think of all the death and destruction carried out using this age old truck go get the ones seeking comfort to hate, wage war and kill others that have a different snuggle blanket.hedonist said:Agreed, rr.
We all have different means of coping - or crutches, as PJ_Soul mentioned. Again, without flinging those means at others, insisting everyone else use them, I don't see the harm.
Whatever gets you through the night (and to your own personal light), it's alright.
Cruz trump and others are using this to rile up the troops. Humans such herd animals.
Sooner we put this Idiocracy behind us the better.
Fine if that's your view, callen, but that has zero to do with what I was talking about.
Oh and life is wonderful. Talk how lucky I am daily with food prepared for me, medical and air conditioning.
Just need to get our belief systems caught up.
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Agreed. I wish more states had background checks like nj. In order for me to buy a rifle/shotgun in this state I had to apply for a firearms identification card. In order to get that I needed to get fingerprinted, two letters of referral from non-relatives, mental background check, criminal background check and my boss was contacted to see if their were any issues. If you pass everything you get something called a firearms identification card which entitles you to buy a rifle/shotgun but you need to do separate paperwork in order to buy a handgun. When you finally go and buy a firearm you have to show your firearms id card, fill out a bunch of paperwork, gun is registered of course, and the state police are called one more time just to make sure that you are still a ok since time obviously lapses from initial date of getting id card. Make sense?PP193448 said:
Agreed. just like not all Muslims are radical extremists...mcgruff10 said:
Nearly 750,000 hunters went deer hunting last week in Pennsylvania. Think about it, millions of rounds of ammunition and nearly 3/4 of a million firearms and not one mass shooting or murder. The vast vast majority of gun owners are responsible. It s the very small percentage as usual that fuck it up for everyone.Bentleyspop said:
You're right gf guns don't kill peopleGodfather. said:the bitch left a note/comments for isis on Facebook ?
time to wake up and smell the coffee liberals, it's not a gun problem......it is a people problem !
locking down our borders would be a good start.
Godfather.
Gun owners with legally purchased and registered guns kill people.
But to argue with myself, it is way too easy to get guns and ammo. Laws need to be little bit stricter IMO.
I feel that if other states followed this lead then more people that shouldn't have a gun would be denied. Just my .02 cents.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Fuckin A . Maybe Christie can plant THAT bug in Kasich's ear as well as both our state chambers.mcgruff10 said:
Agreed. I wish more states had background checks like nj. In order for me to buy a rifle/shotgun in this state I had to apply for a firearms identification card. In order to get that I needed to get fingerprinted, two letters of referral from non-relatives, mental background check, criminal background check and my boss was contacted to see if their were any issues. If you pass everything you get something called a firearms identification card which entitles you to buy a rifle/shotgun but you need to do separate paperwork in order to buy a handgun. When you finally go and buy a firearm you have to show your firearms id card, fill out a bunch of paperwork, gun is registered of course, and the state police are called one more time just to make sure that you are still a ok since time obviously lapses from initial date of getting id card. Make sense?PP193448 said:
Agreed. just like not all Muslims are radical extremists...mcgruff10 said:
Nearly 750,000 hunters went deer hunting last week in Pennsylvania. Think about it, millions of rounds of ammunition and nearly 3/4 of a million firearms and not one mass shooting or murder. The vast vast majority of gun owners are responsible. It s the very small percentage as usual that fuck it up for everyone.Bentleyspop said:
You're right gf guns don't kill peopleGodfather. said:the bitch left a note/comments for isis on Facebook ?
time to wake up and smell the coffee liberals, it's not a gun problem......it is a people problem !
locking down our borders would be a good start.
Godfather.
Gun owners with legally purchased and registered guns kill people.
But to argue with myself, it is way too easy to get guns and ammo. Laws need to be little bit stricter IMO.
I feel that if other states followed this lead then more people that shouldn't have a gun would be denied. Just my .02 cents._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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I think it actually works really well. Unless you really want to buy a gun you aren't going to go through all of that. The problem is most (i think upwards of 85%) of the guns used in crimes in New Jersey are brought in from other states.mickeyrat said:
Fuckin A . Maybe Christie can plant THAT bug in Kasich's ear as well as both our state chambers.mcgruff10 said:
Agreed. I wish more states had background checks like nj. In order for me to buy a rifle/shotgun in this state I had to apply for a firearms identification card. In order to get that I needed to get fingerprinted, two letters of referral from non-relatives, mental background check, criminal background check and my boss was contacted to see if their were any issues. If you pass everything you get something called a firearms identification card which entitles you to buy a rifle/shotgun but you need to do separate paperwork in order to buy a handgun. When you finally go and buy a firearm you have to show your firearms id card, fill out a bunch of paperwork, gun is registered of course, and the state police are called one more time just to make sure that you are still a ok since time obviously lapses from initial date of getting id card. Make sense?PP193448 said:
Agreed. just like not all Muslims are radical extremists...mcgruff10 said:
Nearly 750,000 hunters went deer hunting last week in Pennsylvania. Think about it, millions of rounds of ammunition and nearly 3/4 of a million firearms and not one mass shooting or murder. The vast vast majority of gun owners are responsible. It s the very small percentage as usual that fuck it up for everyone.Bentleyspop said:
You're right gf guns don't kill peopleGodfather. said:the bitch left a note/comments for isis on Facebook ?
time to wake up and smell the coffee liberals, it's not a gun problem......it is a people problem !
locking down our borders would be a good start.
Godfather.
Gun owners with legally purchased and registered guns kill people.
But to argue with myself, it is way too easy to get guns and ammo. Laws need to be little bit stricter IMO.
I feel that if other states followed this lead then more people that shouldn't have a gun would be denied. Just my .02 cents.
It would be nice if Christie tried to sell this but he's running republican.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Agreed....at a minimum this should be the process. There will still be shootings but we at least have to make it as difficult as possible to obtain a weapon when your goal is to kill people.mcgruff10 said:
Agreed. I wish more states had background checks like nj. In order for me to buy a rifle/shotgun in this state I had to apply for a firearms identification card. In order to get that I needed to get fingerprinted, two letters of referral from non-relatives, mental background check, criminal background check and my boss was contacted to see if their were any issues. If you pass everything you get something called a firearms identification card which entitles you to buy a rifle/shotgun but you need to do separate paperwork in order to buy a handgun. When you finally go and buy a firearm you have to show your firearms id card, fill out a bunch of paperwork, gun is registered of course, and the state police are called one more time just to make sure that you are still a ok since time obviously lapses from initial date of getting id card. Make sense?PP193448 said:
Agreed. just like not all Muslims are radical extremists...mcgruff10 said:
Nearly 750,000 hunters went deer hunting last week in Pennsylvania. Think about it, millions of rounds of ammunition and nearly 3/4 of a million firearms and not one mass shooting or murder. The vast vast majority of gun owners are responsible. It s the very small percentage as usual that fuck it up for everyone.Bentleyspop said:
You're right gf guns don't kill peopleGodfather. said:the bitch left a note/comments for isis on Facebook ?
time to wake up and smell the coffee liberals, it's not a gun problem......it is a people problem !
locking down our borders would be a good start.
Godfather.
Gun owners with legally purchased and registered guns kill people.
But to argue with myself, it is way too easy to get guns and ammo. Laws need to be little bit stricter IMO.
I feel that if other states followed this lead then more people that shouldn't have a gun would be denied. Just my .02 cents.
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