San Bernardino Shootings Kill 14
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Props to the the guy who heads the local Muslim CAIR center out there.He was all over the news calling this guy out and denouncing his actions.I think more of that will help with hater types.0
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The wife (second shooter) Tashfeen Malik had Pakistani passport and was in the US on a K-1 visa. She was fully vetted and yet this happened. More evidence that the verification system is broken.0
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Your solution?BS44325 said:The wife (second shooter) Tashfeen Malik had Pakistani passport and was in the US on a K-1 visa. She was fully vetted and yet this happened. More evidence that the verification system is broken.
Perhaps it if were not so easy for potential terrorists to get guns...Post edited by Cliffy6745 on0 -
Agreed. It should not be so easy for them to get here and it should not be so easy for them to get guns.Cliffy6745 said:
Your solution?BS44325 said:The wife (second shooter) Tashfeen Malik had Pakistani passport and was in the US on a K-1 visa. She was fully vetted and yet this happened. More evidence that the verification system is broken.
Perhaps it if were not so easy for potential terrorists to get guns...0 -
So one post in your view makes a movement to take guns away from law abiding citizens? Without a chorus of support or a link or quote from the "anti-gun" crowd advocating for it? Who's coming for the guns after Obama leaves office?
Please enlighten me on what laws Oh Canada has in the books regarding firearms and please don't bring up the long gun registry. What's the difference up there? Is it ideology? Better mental health care? Less guns? Ingrained politeness?BS44325 said:
Here's one post by ident on the thread praising your research:Halifax2TheMax said:
Takes one to know one with your, "take guns away from law abiding citizens" comment. I'm still waiting for a link to just one post that posited what you claim us anti-gunners want.BS44325 said:
There has been no Muslim hate posts or any suggestion to "round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck". That is the kind of straw man tantrum a person throws in order to avoid a discussion of uncomfortable facts. Sad.brianlux said:Nice job with the jumping to conclusions/Muslim hate things in some of the posts here so far. Let's just round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck and be done with it.
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What the fuck.
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You asked for one post so I gave you one post. Keep dodging my question about the sensible laws you are advocating for. It is obvious you have none. Don't rage against the machine if you have no proposals of your own.Halifax2TheMax said:So one post in your view makes a movement to take guns away from law abiding citizens? Without a chorus of support or a link or quote from the "anti-gun" crowd advocating for it? Who's coming for the guns after Obama leaves office?
Please enlighten me on what laws Oh Canada has in the books regarding firearms and please don't bring up the long gun registry. What's the difference up there? Is it ideology? Better mental health care? Less guns? Ingrained politeness?BS44325 said:
Here's one post by ident on the thread praising your research:Halifax2TheMax said:
Takes one to know one with your, "take guns away from law abiding citizens" comment. I'm still waiting for a link to just one post that posited what you claim us anti-gunners want.BS44325 said:
There has been no Muslim hate posts or any suggestion to "round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck". That is the kind of straw man tantrum a person throws in order to avoid a discussion of uncomfortable facts. Sad.brianlux said:Nice job with the jumping to conclusions/Muslim hate things in some of the posts here so far. Let's just round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck and be done with it.
"I've never been made so sad by looking at a thread list as I just have.
What the fuck.
Take the guns away. Take the bullets away. At this point I don't think it matters anymore."
As far as Canada...the concept of "ingrained politeness" was probably sarcasm but it is closer to the mark then you think. Our two countries are the outcome of different responses to our previous British lords. Americans formed a resistance against tyranny where every settler had to be come a soldier. Canadians pledged their loyalty to the King and gave up many right for his majesties protection. This difference has defined our cultures. Americans are independent minded people who rely on themselves. Canadians on the other hand have for the most part relied on government to care of them.Post edited by BS44325 on0 -
Has Obummer made a statement yet now that we know these "gun nuts" were radical Muslims?0
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In due time, in due time. When are you relocating to the US? But why the reluctance to share Canadian law as it relates to firearms with us? Maybe you Oh Canadians have the answer and don't want to share? Not very polite of you.BS44325 said:
You asked for one post so I gave you one post. Keep dodging my question about the sensible laws you are advocating for. It is obvious you have none. Don't rage against the machine if you have no proposals of your own.Halifax2TheMax said:So one post in your view makes a movement to take guns away from law abiding citizens? Without a chorus of support or a link or quote from the "anti-gun" crowd advocating for it? Who's coming for the guns after Obama leaves office?
Please enlighten me on what laws Oh Canada has in the books regarding firearms and please don't bring up the long gun registry. What's the difference up there? Is it ideology? Better mental health care? Less guns? Ingrained politeness?BS44325 said:
Here's one post by ident on the thread praising your research:Halifax2TheMax said:
Takes one to know one with your, "take guns away from law abiding citizens" comment. I'm still waiting for a link to just one post that posited what you claim us anti-gunners want.BS44325 said:
There has been no Muslim hate posts or any suggestion to "round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck". That is the kind of straw man tantrum a person throws in order to avoid a discussion of uncomfortable facts. Sad.brianlux said:Nice job with the jumping to conclusions/Muslim hate things in some of the posts here so far. Let's just round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck and be done with it.
"I've never been made so sad by looking at a thread list as I just have.
What the fuck.
Take the guns away. Take the bullets away. At this point I don't think it matters anymore."
As far as Canada...the concept of "ingrained politeness" was probably sarcasm but it is closer to the mark then you think. Our two countries are the outcome of different responses to our previous British lords. Americans formed a resistance against tyranny where every settler had to be come a soldier. Canadians pledged their loyalty to the King and gave up many right for his majesties protection. This difference has defined our cultures. Americans are independent minded people who rely on themselves. Canadians on the other hand have for the most part relied on government to care of them.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Or pipesCliffy6745 said:
Your solution?BS44325 said:The wife (second shooter) Tashfeen Malik had Pakistani passport and was in the US on a K-1 visa. She was fully vetted and yet this happened. More evidence that the verification system is broken.
Perhaps it if were not so easy for potential terrorists to get guns...I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
He said he agrees with you and all the muslimhaters they all need to be deported or jailed and that any cops under scrutiny will be pardon ...so your boy who pumped 16 bullets into the 17 yr old will get another desk job with a raise ....muskydan said:Has Obummer made a statement yet now that we know these "gun nuts" were radical Muslims?
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Odds are they would have left the remote control car in the driveway and it would have been run over accidently by their parent...that's usually what happens to those killing devices.0
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BS44325 said:
There has been no Muslim hate posts or any suggestion to "round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck". That is the kind of straw man tantrum a person throws in order to avoid a discussion of uncomfortable facts. Sad.brianlux said:Nice job with the jumping to conclusions/Muslim hate things in some of the posts here so far. Let's just round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck and be done with it.
BS44325 said:
There has been no Muslim hate posts or any suggestion to "round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck". That is the kind of straw man tantrum a person throws in order to avoid a discussion of uncomfortable facts. Sad.brianlux said:Nice job with the jumping to conclusions/Muslim hate things in some of the posts here so far. Let's just round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck and be done with it.
Yes, there has BS. Read between the lines.BS44325 said:
There has been no Muslim hate posts or any suggestion to "round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck". That is the kind of straw man tantrum a person throws in order to avoid a discussion of uncomfortable facts. Sad.brianlux said:Nice job with the jumping to conclusions/Muslim hate things in some of the posts here so far. Let's just round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck and be done with it.
Tantrums don't happen when a post is thought out and "preview" button is hit. Don't like my opinions? Fine, call it a tantrum if you must... but, really? As Kurt Vonnegut used to say, "Hi ho!"
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
its crazy..i post this down about this shooting..in another shooting thread,,
its crazy to think how many are ther last years,,,
"there is no cure in this anymore..
life doesnt mean anything and insstead something to change with that fuckin guns,people lifes become statistics at the news..""...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”0 -
Holy crap!!! I sure hope you don't own any guns. If you are going to throw shots at me personally , atleast know what you are talking about.josevolution said:
He said he agrees with you and all the muslimhaters they all need to be deported or jailed and that any cops under scrutiny will be pardon ...so your boy who pumped 16 bullets into the 17 yr old will get another desk job with a raise ....muskydan said:Has Obummer made a statement yet now that we know these "gun nuts" were radical Muslims?
If he has said something, I must have missed it being at work all day. I look forward to hearing how Obummer is going 2 spin this one.0 -
How am i taking shots at you ? and no i don't own a gun or any weapon unless the kitchen knives count ....Oh wait i must of mistaking you for someone else who hates the muslims , spanish, blacks , gays , liberals am i forgetting any groups .....muskydan said:
Holy crap!!! I sure hope you don't own any guns. If you are going to throw shots at me personally , atleast know what you are talking about.josevolution said:
He said he agrees with you and all the muslimhaters they all need to be deported or jailed and that any cops under scrutiny will be pardon ...so your boy who pumped 16 bullets into the 17 yr old will get another desk job with a raise ....muskydan said:Has Obummer made a statement yet now that we know these "gun nuts" were radical Muslims?
If he has said something, I must have missed it being at work all day. I look forward to hearing how Obummer is going 2 spin this one.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
I see so there are no actual Muslim hate posts but they are there if we just read between the lines. Gotcha. My apologies.brianlux said:BS44325 said:
There has been no Muslim hate posts or any suggestion to "round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck". That is the kind of straw man tantrum a person throws in order to avoid a discussion of uncomfortable facts. Sad.brianlux said:Nice job with the jumping to conclusions/Muslim hate things in some of the posts here so far. Let's just round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck and be done with it.
BS44325 said:
There has been no Muslim hate posts or any suggestion to "round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck". That is the kind of straw man tantrum a person throws in order to avoid a discussion of uncomfortable facts. Sad.brianlux said:Nice job with the jumping to conclusions/Muslim hate things in some of the posts here so far. Let's just round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck and be done with it.
Yes, there has BS. Read between the lines.BS44325 said:
There has been no Muslim hate posts or any suggestion to "round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck". That is the kind of straw man tantrum a person throws in order to avoid a discussion of uncomfortable facts. Sad.brianlux said:Nice job with the jumping to conclusions/Muslim hate things in some of the posts here so far. Let's just round all them fuckers up and hang 'em by the neck and be done with it.
Tantrums don't happen when a post is thought out and "preview" button is hit. Don't like my opinions? Fine, call it a tantrum if you must... but, really? As Kurt Vonnegut used to say, "Hi ho!"0 -
And she probably never would have done it if it hadn't been for her American-born husband. She was probably totally normal before she came to America and got all fucked up!BS44325 said:The wife (second shooter) Tashfeen Malik had Pakistani passport and was in the US on a K-1 visa. She was fully vetted and yet this happened. More evidence that the verification system is broken.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
It is inevitable that in any system that a few criminals will pass through. Pretending that this is a common event is absurd. Of the tens of thousands of gun related homicides that occur in the US each year, how many of them are actually tied to Islamic fundamentalism? Personally I'd be far more fearful of the everyday gun owner than of the ISIS terrorist whom I'm far less likely to ever encounter. Whether you choose to believe it or not, you're more likely to be killed by a gun toting neighbour than dying in a random terrorist attack.BS44325 said:The wife (second shooter) Tashfeen Malik had Pakistani passport and was in the US on a K-1 visa. She was fully vetted and yet this happened. More evidence that the verification system is broken.
cnn.com/2015/10/02/us/oregon-shooting-terrorism-gun-violence/
When you are over 100 times more likely to be killed by a random act of gun violence than by a terrorist you have to ask yourself. 'what are you really afraid of'?0 -
http://www.vox.com/2015/12/3/9845166/islamophobia-san-bernardino-shooting
The ugly Islamophobia in the media coverage of the San Bernardino shooting0
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