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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Who remembers these really nice BDS guys protesting outside Bataclan in 2008

    http://youtu.be/-WBDanqAVLw

    The club and band were not chosen at random.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    It's pretty amazing that when a nutjob with a confederate flag slaughters people the entire south and it's culture is complicit but when a jewish theater and a band who played israel along with its fans are gunned down the BDS movement can just wash it's hands of any responsibility.

  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    BS44325 said:

    Who remembers these really nice BDS guys protesting outside Bataclan in 2008

    http://youtu.be/-WBDanqAVLw

    The club and band were not chosen at random.

    So a small group had a 3 minute peaceful protest in front of the Bataclan 7 years ago therefore this attack is tied to the BDS movement? I'm sorry, I'm going to need to see a little more evidence than this.

    You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to try and link this to the BDS movement. This all looks pretty desperate.

    This was the point I was trying to make about some taking this tragedy to try and push an agenda, without any evidence to back it up.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    Who remembers these really nice BDS guys protesting outside Bataclan in 2008

    http://youtu.be/-WBDanqAVLw

    The club and band were not chosen at random.

    So a small group had a 3 minute peaceful protest in front of the Bataclan 7 years ago therefore this attack is tied to the BDS movement? I'm sorry, I'm going to need to see a little more evidence than this.

    You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to try and link this to the BDS movement. This all looks pretty desperate.

    This was the point I was trying to make about some taking this tragedy to try and push an agenda, without any evidence to back it up.
    The evidence is right in front of your face. This club and band were not chosen at random. Shame on you for suggesting otherwise.
  • Nanou
    Nanou Posts: 191
    "You'll bear the consequences of your actions. This time we came to give a message, next time we won't come to talk." Really peaceful...
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited November 2015
    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    Who remembers these really nice BDS guys protesting outside Bataclan in 2008

    http://youtu.be/-WBDanqAVLw

    The club and band were not chosen at random.

    So a small group had a 3 minute peaceful protest in front of the Bataclan 7 years ago therefore this attack is tied to the BDS movement? I'm sorry, I'm going to need to see a little more evidence than this.

    You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to try and link this to the BDS movement. This all looks pretty desperate.

    This was the point I was trying to make about some taking this tragedy to try and push an agenda, without any evidence to back it up.
    The evidence is right in front of your face. This club and band were not chosen at random. Shame on you for suggesting otherwise.
    Well of course they were not chosen at random, but the connection you are trying to make is vague at best.

    Edit: I needed better translation. I read the post above mine and that gave me pause for thought. Exactly what is their problem and what are they saying about it?
    Post edited by Thirty Bills Unpaid on
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  • Nanou
    Nanou Posts: 191
    The problem was/is that the owner of the Bataclan was giving his club to organise gala events to raise funds for the Israeli borders police. This group came to inform that they wouldn't tolerate this anymore. Also, they said that this Mygdal organisation was constantly insulting Palestinians, Muslims and Arabs, without giving any further details. They needed to hide their faces...
    It is not enough to link the attacks to the BDS directly (although the S stands for sanctions), but we cannot say the Bataclan was randomly chosen.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Nanou said:

    The problem was/is that the owner of the Bataclan was giving his club to organise gala events to raise funds for the Israeli borders police. This group came to inform that they wouldn't tolerate this anymore. Also, they said that this Mygdal organisation was constantly insulting Palestinians, Muslims and Arabs, without giving any further details. They needed to hide their faces...
    It is not enough to link the attacks to the BDS directly (although the S stands for sanctions), but we cannot say the Bataclan was randomly chosen.

    Thank you.

    Interesting. I'd say that.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Nanou said:

    The problem was/is that the owner of the Bataclan was giving his club to organise gala events to raise funds for the Israeli borders police. This group came to inform that they wouldn't tolerate this anymore. Also, they said that this Mygdal organisation was constantly insulting Palestinians, Muslims and Arabs, without giving any further details. They needed to hide their faces...
    It is not enough to link the attacks to the BDS directly (although the S stands for sanctions), but we cannot say the Bataclan was randomly chosen.

    I think that's a fair assessment, at this point.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    I wonder what would happen here if 5 guys covered their faces with ski masks and approached a bouncer in a club to deliver a "message"?


  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Nanou said:

    The problem was/is that the owner of the Bataclan was giving his club to organise gala events to raise funds for the Israeli borders police. This group came to inform that they wouldn't tolerate this anymore. Also, they said that this Mygdal organisation was constantly insulting Palestinians, Muslims and Arabs, without giving any further details. They needed to hide their faces...
    It is not enough to link the attacks to the BDS directly (although the S stands for sanctions), but we cannot say the Bataclan was randomly chosen.

    There was no violence at that protest. Violent words? Maybe. I didn't say that the Bataclan was randomly chosen. It looks to me that they were very well planned in their attacks, so not random at all. But they also attacked, or tried to attack the soccer stadium, and a restaurant. What do they all have in common? They are soft targets with a lot of civilians. That's all we know right now. So unless we see some sort of manifesto or some other evidence clearly indicating these attacks were made in part because of the BDS movement....we have no idea.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015
    dignin said:

    Nanou said:

    The problem was/is that the owner of the Bataclan was giving his club to organise gala events to raise funds for the Israeli borders police. This group came to inform that they wouldn't tolerate this anymore. Also, they said that this Mygdal organisation was constantly insulting Palestinians, Muslims and Arabs, without giving any further details. They needed to hide their faces...
    It is not enough to link the attacks to the BDS directly (although the S stands for sanctions), but we cannot say the Bataclan was randomly chosen.

    That's all we know right now. So unless we see some sort of manifesto or some other evidence clearly indicating these attacks were made in part because of the BDS movement....we have no idea.
    .
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    How ISIS benefits from anti-refugee sentiment

    http://www.cbc.ca/radio/the180/paris-attacks-why-keystone-was-a-powerful-symbol-and-robot-doctors-1.3316988/how-isis-benefits-from-anti-refugee-sentiment-1.3319618
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    I wonder what would happen here if 5 guys covered their faces with ski masks and approached a bouncer in a club to deliver a "message"?


    The bouncer would start laughing and he'd say, " I can still see your eyes ya know."

    Then those 5 guys would kinda look at each other and walk away to huddle. They'd eventually settle on a plan to take all their twoonies to the used sporting goods store and buy ski goggles.

    Recharged... they'd approach again... this time in full awesomeness.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    dignin said:

    Nanou said:

    The problem was/is that the owner of the Bataclan was giving his club to organise gala events to raise funds for the Israeli borders police. This group came to inform that they wouldn't tolerate this anymore. Also, they said that this Mygdal organisation was constantly insulting Palestinians, Muslims and Arabs, without giving any further details. They needed to hide their faces...
    It is not enough to link the attacks to the BDS directly (although the S stands for sanctions), but we cannot say the Bataclan was randomly chosen.

    There was no violence at that protest. Violent words? Maybe. I didn't say that the Bataclan was randomly chosen. It looks to me that they were very well planned in their attacks, so not random at all. But they also attacked, or tried to attack the soccer stadium, and a restaurant. What do they all have in common? They are soft targets with a lot of civilians. That's all we know right now. So unless we see some sort of manifesto or some other evidence clearly indicating these attacks were made in part because of the BDS movement....we have no idea.
    Willful ignorance.
  • Nanou
    Nanou Posts: 191
    dignin said:

    Nanou said:

    The problem was/is that the owner of the Bataclan was giving his club to organise gala events to raise funds for the Israeli borders police. This group came to inform that they wouldn't tolerate this anymore. Also, they said that this Mygdal organisation was constantly insulting Palestinians, Muslims and Arabs, without giving any further details. They needed to hide their faces...
    It is not enough to link the attacks to the BDS directly (although the S stands for sanctions), but we cannot say the Bataclan was randomly chosen.

    There was no violence at that protest. Violent words? Maybe. I didn't say that the Bataclan was randomly chosen. It looks to me that they were very well planned in their attacks, so not random at all. But they also attacked, or tried to attack the soccer stadium, and a restaurant. What do they all have in common? They are soft targets with a lot of civilians. That's all we know right now. So unless we see some sort of manifesto or some other evidence clearly indicating these attacks were made in part because of the BDS movement....we have no idea.
    It wasn't a protest, they came to "talk" to the administration of the club.
    I didn't say they were violent.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,254
    dignin said:

    How ISIS benefits from anti-refugee sentiment

    http://www.cbc.ca/radio/the180/paris-attacks-why-keystone-was-a-powerful-symbol-and-robot-doctors-1.3316988/how-isis-benefits-from-anti-refugee-sentiment-1.3319618

    The author is making some assumptions for sure. He could be right, or he could be wrong. There are plenty of articles talking about the refugees coming to Europe is exactly what ISIS wants as it allows terrorists to easily enter and expands their territory.

    To me it makes more sense to send 100,000 troops to the Middle East rather than take in 10 million refugees and have to have 100,000 more troops in Europe to defend against the terrorists that came as part of the 10 million.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    bootlegger10 said:

    dignin said:

    How ISIS benefits from anti-refugee sentiment

    http://www.cbc.ca/radio/the180/paris-attacks-why-keystone-was-a-powerful-symbol-and-robot-doctors-1.3316988/how-isis-benefits-from-anti-refugee-sentiment-1.3319618

    The author is making some assumptions for sure. He could be right, or he could be wrong. There are plenty of articles talking about the refugees coming to Europe is exactly what ISIS wants as it allows terrorists to easily enter and expands their territory.

    To me it makes more sense to send 100,000 troops to the Middle East rather than take in 10 million refugees and have to have 100,000 more troops in Europe to defend against the terrorists that came as part of the 10 million.
    Agree of it's Arab states troops.

    We should be pressuring rich surrounding nations to act, strongly.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    So sad...

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/eagles-of-death-metal-merch-manager-nick-alexander-killed-in-paris-attack-20151114
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    Nanou said:

    The problem was/is that the owner of the Bataclan was giving his club to organise gala events to raise funds for the Israeli borders police. This group came to inform that they wouldn't tolerate this anymore. Also, they said that this Mygdal organisation was constantly insulting Palestinians, Muslims and Arabs, without giving any further details. They needed to hide their faces...
    It is not enough to link the attacks to the BDS directly (although the S stands for sanctions), but we cannot say the Bataclan was randomly chosen.

    There was no violence at that protest. Violent words? Maybe. I didn't say that the Bataclan was randomly chosen. It looks to me that they were very well planned in their attacks, so not random at all. But they also attacked, or tried to attack the soccer stadium, and a restaurant. What do they all have in common? They are soft targets with a lot of civilians. That's all we know right now. So unless we see some sort of manifesto or some other evidence clearly indicating these attacks were made in part because of the BDS movement....we have no idea.
    Willful ignorance.
    Willful ignorance or due diligence?

    I get it, you don't like the BDS.

    I also get that you are a one trick pony. Come back to me with actual evidence.
    bootlegger10 said:

    dignin said:

    How ISIS benefits from anti-refugee sentiment

    http://www.cbc.ca/radio/the180/paris-attacks-why-keystone-was-a-powerful-symbol-and-robot-doctors-1.3316988/how-isis-benefits-from-anti-refugee-sentiment-1.3319618

    The author is making some assumptions for sure. He could be right, or he could be wrong. There are plenty of articles talking about the refugees coming to Europe is exactly what ISIS wants as it allows terrorists to easily enter and expands their territory.

    To me it makes more sense to send 100,000 troops to the Middle East rather than take in 10 million refugees and have to have 100,000 more troops in Europe to defend against the terrorists that came as part of the 10 million.
    I don't know what the right answer is. But history tells me that sending in troops almost never works in that region. I don't think we can fix the problems there through the barrel of a gun.

    The mess there now is the direct result of the west sending in troops en masse.

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