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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    dignin said:

    Man bikes grand piano to attacked Paris concert hall, plays Lennon's Imagine
    'He just pulled up and started playing. Everyone suddenly stopped talking'

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/piano-man-paris-attacks-1.3319269

    Touching for sure.
    But it means fuck all to the people who are planning the next attack.
    That it means fuck all to some means fuck all to me.

    Jesus fucking christ, - Kat and Sea, don't flag me, I'm playing the innocent, passive/aggressive card! - is it possible to try, in the teensiest tiniest way, to chill out a few degrees while others attempt to find some solace amidst this without pulling the "yeah, but" card?

    Save it for later.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,333
    edited November 2015
    http://qz.com/550104/muslims-around-the-world-condemn-terrorism-after-the-paris-attacks/

    Muslims around the world condemn terrorism after the Paris attacks
    Heather Timmons November 14, 2015

    "They don't represent Islam." (Reuters/Tarek Mostafa)
    Update, Nov. 14: In a live address on Saturday morning in France, President Francois Hollande said the Islamic State was responsible for the attacks. ISIL claimed responsibility for the attacks in a statement released on social media, though its lack of specific background information about the attackers suggests the group may not have directly orchestrated them.
    The attacks in Paris that have killed more than 100 people have sparked a cycle of blame and outrage that has become depressingly familiar.
    Not much is known about the terrorists at this point, except for the fact that the ones directly involved are all dead. But early reports that the terrorists were speaking about France’s presence in Syria, that one yelled “Allahu Akbar” before opening fire in a crowded concert hall, and ISIL supporters use of the hashtag #باريس_تشتعل (Paris burns) to spread the news led many to conclude the attackers were Muslim.
    The attacks have started a new round of condemnation of Islam itself from long-time right-wing critics.
    Muslims around the world, from religious leaders and politicians to ordinary people, meanwhile, are condemning the attacks.
    In an official statement, Iranian president Hassan Rouhani called the attacks a “crime against humanity.”
    In the name of the Iranian people, who have themselves been victims of terrorism, I strongly condemn these crimes against humanity and offer my condolences to the grieving French people and government.
    Indonesian president Joko Widodo condemned the “violence that took place in Paris,” and called for more international cooperation to fight terrorism.
    Leaders of Arab states called the attacks immoral and inhumane. Qatar’s foreign minister Khaled al-Attiyah denounced the “heinous attacks,” adding, “these acts, which target stability and security in France are against all human and moral values.” Kuwaiti Emir Sheikh Sabah al-Sabah called the attacks “criminal acts of terrorism which run counter to all teachings of holy faith and humanitarian values.” The Saudi foreign ministry called for global cooperation to “root out this dangerous and destructive plague.”
    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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  • SD48277
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    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    dignin said:

    Man bikes grand piano to attacked Paris concert hall, plays Lennon's Imagine
    'He just pulled up and started playing. Everyone suddenly stopped talking'

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/piano-man-paris-attacks-1.3319269

    Touching for sure.
    But it means fuck all to the people who are planning the next attack.
    My guess is that it wasn't for the people who are planning the next attack, but for those who are trying to find some comfort (however small and however short in duration) in a upsetting situation. Sometimes it is the smallest gestures that affect people most deeply.
    ELITIST FUK
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    edited November 2015
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    dignin said:

    Man bikes grand piano to attacked Paris concert hall, plays Lennon's Imagine
    'He just pulled up and started playing. Everyone suddenly stopped talking'

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/piano-man-paris-attacks-1.3319269

    Touching for sure.
    But it means fuck all to the people who are planning the next attack.
    Fuck it, edited this as I don't even want to attempt a rational discussion in opposition to this kind of attitude
    Post edited by jnimhaoileoin on
  • Enkidu
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    SD48277 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    dignin said:

    Man bikes grand piano to attacked Paris concert hall, plays Lennon's Imagine
    'He just pulled up and started playing. Everyone suddenly stopped talking'

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/piano-man-paris-attacks-1.3319269

    Touching for sure.
    But it means fuck all to the people who are planning the next attack.
    My guess is that it wasn't for the people who are planning the next attack, but for those who are trying to find some comfort (however small and however short in duration) in a upsetting situation. Sometimes it is the smallest gestures that affect people most deeply.
    Yep.

    And this is also for people trying to find comfort. http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/11/14/at-metropolitan-opera-support-for-paris-sounds-out-with-singing-of-frances-national-anthem/?smid=fb-share&_r=0
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,333
    edited November 2015
    the last part of the the link/article I posted above had some ordinary folks commenting on various social media platforms. this is certainly one way to look at a big picture......


    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015
    mickeyrat said:

    the last part of the the link/article I posted above had some ordinary folks commenting on various social media platforms. this is certainly one way to look at a big picture......


    .
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,333
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    the last part of the the link/article I posted above had some ordinary folks commenting on various social media platforms. this is certainly one way to look at a big picture......


    So why does the radical want to increase the amount of muslims in the world?
    1.7 billion is a lot.

    edit - at least hezbollah sympathizeshttp://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/ISIS-Threat/Hezbollah-chief-condemns-Paris-attacks-vows-retaliation-for-Beirut-bombings-433091
    to your first prt.... WHAT? want to increase? there ARE that many right now.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    mickeyrat said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    the last part of the the link/article I posted above had some ordinary folks commenting on various social media platforms. this is certainly one way to look at a big picture......


    So why does the radical want to increase the amount of muslims in the world?
    1.7 billion is a lot.

    edit - at least hezbollah sympathizeshttp://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/ISIS-Threat/Hezbollah-chief-condemns-Paris-attacks-vows-retaliation-for-Beirut-bombings-433091
    to your first prt.... WHAT? want to increase? there ARE that many right now.
    Clearly the radicals want to promote islam.
    Death if you don't convert.
  • jnimhaoileoin
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    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    the last part of the the link/article I posted above had some ordinary folks commenting on various social media platforms. this is certainly one way to look at a big picture......


    So why does the radical want to increase the amount of muslims in the world?
    1.7 billion is a lot.

    edit - at least hezbollah sympathizeshttp://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/ISIS-Threat/Hezbollah-chief-condemns-Paris-attacks-vows-retaliation-for-Beirut-bombings-433091
    to your first prt.... WHAT? want to increase? there ARE that many right now.
    Clearly the radicals want to promote islam.
    Death if you don't convert.
    I've never heard any Muslim propaganda demanding conversion, have you?
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    the last part of the the link/article I posted above had some ordinary folks commenting on various social media platforms. this is certainly one way to look at a big picture......


    So why does the radical want to increase the amount of muslims in the world?
    1.7 billion is a lot.

    edit - at least hezbollah sympathizeshttp://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/ISIS-Threat/Hezbollah-chief-condemns-Paris-attacks-vows-retaliation-for-Beirut-bombings-433091
    to your first prt.... WHAT? want to increase? there ARE that many right now.
    Clearly the radicals want to promote islam.
    Death if you don't convert.
    I've never heard any Muslim propaganda demanding conversion, have you?
    Nope.
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    the last part of the the link/article I posted above had some ordinary folks commenting on various social media platforms. this is certainly one way to look at a big picture......


    So why does the radical want to increase the amount of muslims in the world?
    1.7 billion is a lot.

    edit - at least hezbollah sympathizeshttp://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/ISIS-Threat/Hezbollah-chief-condemns-Paris-attacks-vows-retaliation-for-Beirut-bombings-433091
    to your first prt.... WHAT? want to increase? there ARE that many right now.
    Clearly the radicals want to promote islam.
    Death if you don't convert.
    I've never heard any Muslim propaganda demanding conversion, have you?
    Nope.
    Well then why did you suggest that this is their intention, 'convert or die'?
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    the last part of the the link/article I posted above had some ordinary folks commenting on various social media platforms. this is certainly one way to look at a big picture......


    So why does the radical want to increase the amount of muslims in the world?
    1.7 billion is a lot.

    edit - at least hezbollah sympathizeshttp://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/ISIS-Threat/Hezbollah-chief-condemns-Paris-attacks-vows-retaliation-for-Beirut-bombings-433091
    to your first prt.... WHAT? want to increase? there ARE that many right now.
    Clearly the radicals want to promote islam.
    Death if you don't convert.
    I've never heard any Muslim propaganda demanding conversion, have you?
    Nope.
    Well then why did you suggest that this is their intention, 'convert or die'?
    Apostasy.
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    the last part of the the link/article I posted above had some ordinary folks commenting on various social media platforms. this is certainly one way to look at a big picture......


    So why does the radical want to increase the amount of muslims in the world?
    1.7 billion is a lot.

    edit - at least hezbollah sympathizeshttp://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/ISIS-Threat/Hezbollah-chief-condemns-Paris-attacks-vows-retaliation-for-Beirut-bombings-433091
    to your first prt.... WHAT? want to increase? there ARE that many right now.
    Clearly the radicals want to promote islam.
    Death if you don't convert.
    I've never heard any Muslim propaganda demanding conversion, have you?
    Nope.
    Well then why did you suggest that this is their intention, 'convert or die'?
    Apostasy.
    You've lost me. Apostasy refers to Muslims abandoning Islam, through conversion or otherwise. Your reference above clearly inferred 'radicals' with a 'convert or die' policy with regard to non-Muslims, no? Could you please clarify the meaning of that post?
  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    edited November 2015
    rgambs said:

    Perhaps before we grab pitchforks and form a mob to round up the evil refugees we should wait for a shred of verified Intel...
    Nahhhh bootlegger and dirtyfrank are right, we should jump to conclusions and make broad assumptions, that's the right move. Let's not even wait a few hours, let's use this as an opportunity to push our agenda while the dust is literally still settling.

    Where did I make broad assumptions. If I wanted to infiltrate an area and there were hundreds of thousands of people going to Europe, I would pack my shit and blend in with the refugees. Does that make me believe that all refugees are members of ISIL? Of course not but there is a risk of admitting hundreds of thousands of refugees. If you cannot admit that the conversation is over.
    Post edited by Dirtie_Frank on
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    the last part of the the link/article I posted above had some ordinary folks commenting on various social media platforms. this is certainly one way to look at a big picture......


    So why does the radical want to increase the amount of muslims in the world?
    1.7 billion is a lot.

    edit - at least hezbollah sympathizeshttp://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/ISIS-Threat/Hezbollah-chief-condemns-Paris-attacks-vows-retaliation-for-Beirut-bombings-433091
    to your first prt.... WHAT? want to increase? there ARE that many right now.
    Clearly the radicals want to promote islam.
    Death if you don't convert.
    I've never heard any Muslim propaganda demanding conversion, have you?
    Nope.
    Well then why did you suggest that this is their intention, 'convert or die'?
    Apostasy.
    You've lost me. Apostasy refers to Muslims abandoning Islam, through conversion or otherwise. Your reference above clearly inferred 'radicals' with a 'convert or die' policy with regard to non-Muslims, no? Could you please clarify the meaning of that post?
    The radicals think that infidels/crusaders - insert non-muslim faith here are against islam simply by not being part of it.
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    the last part of the the link/article I posted above had some ordinary folks commenting on various social media platforms. this is certainly one way to look at a big picture......


    So why does the radical want to increase the amount of muslims in the world?
    1.7 billion is a lot.

    edit - at least hezbollah sympathizeshttp://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/ISIS-Threat/Hezbollah-chief-condemns-Paris-attacks-vows-retaliation-for-Beirut-bombings-433091
    to your first prt.... WHAT? want to increase? there ARE that many right now.
    Clearly the radicals want to promote islam.
    Death if you don't convert.
    I've never heard any Muslim propaganda demanding conversion, have you?
    Nope.
    Well then why did you suggest that this is their intention, 'convert or die'?
    Apostasy.
    You've lost me. Apostasy refers to Muslims abandoning Islam, through conversion or otherwise. Your reference above clearly inferred 'radicals' with a 'convert or die' policy with regard to non-Muslims, no? Could you please clarify the meaning of that post?
    The radicals think that infidels/crusaders - insert non-muslim faith here are against islam simply by not being part of it.
    Well it's a big leap from thinking people are against them to wanting to murder all those people. I'd say a lot of Christians and Jews think that those who don't share their faith oppose it, doesn't mean they want to kill those of other faiths either.

    More to the point, your very use of the word 'radicals' implies a specific kind of excessively devout and irrational Muslim i.e. a teeny tiny proportion of Muslims
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015
    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    jnimhaoileoin said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    the last part of the the link/article I posted above had some ordinary folks commenting on various social media platforms. this is certainly one way to look at a big picture......


    So why does the radical want to increase the amount of muslims in the world?
    1.7 billion is a lot.

    edit - at least hezbollah sympathizeshttp://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/ISIS-Threat/Hezbollah-chief-condemns-Paris-attacks-vows-retaliation-for-Beirut-bombings-433091
    to your first prt.... WHAT? want to increase? there ARE that many right now.
    Clearly the radicals want to promote islam.
    Death if you don't convert.
    I've never heard any Muslim propaganda demanding conversion, have you?
    Nope.
    Well then why did you suggest that this is their intention, 'convert or die'?
    Apostasy.
    You've lost me. Apostasy refers to Muslims abandoning Islam, through conversion or otherwise. Your reference above clearly inferred 'radicals' with a 'convert or die' policy with regard to non-Muslims, no? Could you please clarify the meaning of that post?
    The radicals think that infidels/crusaders - insert non-muslim faith here are against islam simply by not being part of it.
    More to the point, your very use of the word 'radicals' implies a specific kind of excessively devout and irrational Muslim i.e. a teeny tiny proportion of Muslims
    .
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Humans have made the garden of eden into a toxic dump

    And we're just getting started... glad I don't have kids
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited November 2015
    Root cause analysis. That's what we need. Look at the human mind to find out what causes us to pick sides then some giving their lives for this side. Others scream how the other side is wrong. Not just religion but nationality, race, region. Look at fans at sporting events fighting each other. Over a mascot. Fkn college football. Flags. USA USA (added for you Rr :) ) Liberals. Protestants/ Catholics. Nirvana vs PJ.

    Watched a great series in net flix called monkey thieves. National geographic.

    Followed troop of monkeys and showed how the troops(?) fought and even broke apart when they got too big. Brothers that played together fighting each other to the death.

    Think we've just not evolved as much as we think.

    leaders know this and use our instincts to further their causes.

    So how monkey are you?

    Peace.

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