Need prayers....thoughts, vibes, anything....

ldent42 · November 2015

Can you request a CPS case worker be appointed to supervise visits?

PJSiren · November 2015

We can, after the case has been transferred to Oregon.

deadendp · November 2015

PJSiren said:
OMG my aunt and uncle are being ridiculous today...they started at 9am this morning by calling ME while I was walking the dogs, and my aunt left a message to text her, so I did, and told her that if they want to see Keyton they go through Jason, not me...and it took umpteen messages but I finally got that through to them and gave them his number so she calls Jason and doesn't like what he has to say, thinks he's being unreasonable, and so after that texts me again even though I told them I was going to work and couldn't talk anymore, and tells me they called CPS and CPS said my grandma could supervise the visits, um, no they didn't, we spoke to our CPS contact who agrees that Jason and I supervise, AND said if they keep up the harassment and threats that we should call the police and have them put in a mental health facility. But they blew up my phone for like 4 hours, and they think that because I said I agree with my husband and am backing him up on this, that he controls everything I say and do and is mentally abusing me. It's laughable, if I don't laugh, I will have a melt down. We don't trust them, if given the chance they would take him and go on the run kidnapping him. And my grandma couldn't stop them, that's why we need to supervise and have security measures in place. And they are all kinds of butthurt over this.

They have it in their heads that we're all conspiring against them, that my grandma and I have been conspiring for a year to take Keyton away from them even before his mother went to jail. My aunt posted this all to facebook for the world to see and called my grandma a pill popper, and all this other nonsense about how everyone is out to get them and they are so wonderful and never did anything wrong with Keyton. But CPS and the state of KY found them guilty of neglect, that ship has sailed. They think that letting him do everything he wants and not having any rules and having it be the party zone was caring for him not neglecting him.

And my aunt seems to think that we need to keep my uncle and Jason as far away from each other as possible, like my uncle who isn't much taller than me(I'm 5'6), and weighs less than me is going to kick my husband's ass...Jason is 6'5 and 300lbs, he would beat my uncle senseless if he attacked him. I don't think they realize how big Jason is...

My mom went into mama bear mode when they started threatening me and harassing me and told them to stop or she was calling the police on them.

And Jason and I have a theory that they believe because they're coming to a new state that KY can't say or do anything to keep them from getting him back and that they are just going to take him back and be on their merry way. But unfortunately for them, KY is transferring the case to OR...and they will not be getting him back any time soon.

This makes me so very sad for you.

I'm sorry.

Wobbie · November 2015

you got this, PJS! Between you and Jason, I know you do.

the truth will out.

PJSiren · November 2015

Thanks guys...I know, it's just so hard. They think we're being unreasonable, but they haven't given us any reason not to be hard on them...they effed it up and ran it down their leg...and even my grandma said to Jason today that they are both mentally unstable...yeah, ya think? And now this afternoon my cousin, his mom, is blowing up my phone from jail, but she can't leave a message because the call has to be accepted like a collect call, and she KNOWS I'm at work, so I'm not going to answer her...I've told her I don't get home until 7:30...so Lord only knows why she's calling me in the middle of the day, but probably because she talked to them and is pissed off now about something they said.

northerndragon · November 2015

I'm sorry to hear that you are having difficulties again with your family with regards to Keyton. Stay strong and are doing the right thing on every level. We are here for you if you need us and sending you all of our positive energy for a quick resolution. Take care of yourself.

Gillycw · November 2015

Far out, it's a slog for you right now but you can get through it. Kids need boundaries and deep down crave them ,especially boys. Even if they go kicking & screaming. You're doing an amazing job. Big hugs to you x

PJ_Soul · November 2015

PJSiren said:
OMG my aunt and uncle are being ridiculous today...they started at 9am this morning by calling ME while I was walking the dogs, and my aunt left a message to text her, so I did, and told her that if they want to see Keyton they go through Jason, not me...and it took umpteen messages but I finally got that through to them and gave them his number so she calls Jason and doesn't like what he has to say, thinks he's being unreasonable, and so after that texts me again even though I told them I was going to work and couldn't talk anymore, and tells me they called CPS and CPS said my grandma could supervise the visits, um, no they didn't, we spoke to our CPS contact who agrees that Jason and I supervise, AND said if they keep up the harassment and threats that we should call the police and have them put in a mental health facility. But they blew up my phone for like 4 hours, and they think that because I said I agree with my husband and am backing him up on this, that he controls everything I say and do and is mentally abusing me. It's laughable, if I don't laugh, I will have a melt down. We don't trust them, if given the chance they would take him and go on the run kidnapping him. And my grandma couldn't stop them, that's why we need to supervise and have security measures in place. And they are all kinds of butthurt over this.

They have it in their heads that we're all conspiring against them, that my grandma and I have been conspiring for a year to take Keyton away from them even before his mother went to jail. My aunt posted this all to facebook for the world to see and called my grandma a pill popper, and all this other nonsense about how everyone is out to get them and they are so wonderful and never did anything wrong with Keyton. But CPS and the state of KY found them guilty of neglect, that ship has sailed. They think that letting him do everything he wants and not having any rules and having it be the party zone was caring for him not neglecting him.

And my aunt seems to think that we need to keep my uncle and Jason as far away from each other as possible, like my uncle who isn't much taller than me(I'm 5'6), and weighs less than me is going to kick my husband's ass...Jason is 6'5 and 300lbs, he would beat my uncle senseless if he attacked him. I don't think they realize how big Jason is...

My mom went into mama bear mode when they started threatening me and harassing me and told them to stop or she was calling the police on them.

And Jason and I have a theory that they believe because they're coming to a new state that KY can't say or do anything to keep them from getting him back and that they are just going to take him back and be on their merry way. But unfortunately for them, KY is transferring the case to OR...and they will not be getting him back any time soon.

Definitely do not hesitate to call the police. And, of course, keep all of the texts and everything else and show it all to your CPS contact. They might actually decide to enforce a no-contact order or something, which would be good thing, probably. Do you know if it's legal in your state to record phone calls without the person on the other end knowing it? If it is, do that too.
All of this will eventually blow over.... stay strong!

PJSiren · November 2015

I'm not sure if it is legal to do that in Oregon or not...my hubby would probably know. But yeah I am keeping all the texts and messages. They were being ridiculous again today started harassing me and I told them to leave me a lone and contact Jason and so they did call him and then because they didn't like what he was saying called him a bunch of names and hung up on him and then text me again tell me how crazy WE are...

They are the crazy ones...it's ridiculous. They even told my grandma that Jason told them he was going to kick my uncle's ass...um, no not even close to what was said, Jason said he was going to supervise the visit and have security measures in place because we don't trust them based off of their behavior for the last 2 months...

JWPearl · November 2015

sorry for all your troubles and your hard work but i do appreciate you for what you were trying to do, but now i think its important you get some sleep and look after yourselves xx oo
said my piece whether it matters or not im hopping off now..

Wobbie · November 2015

PJS.... :hug:

PJSiren · November 2015

Thanks guys! I really appreciate it!

JWPearl · November 2015

how are you doing today??
i know your not well but have
the tabs kicked in yet
probably take a while
but it will work..

PJSiren · November 2015

I am doing OK, the melatonin is working to help me sleep, it's been a lot better at night for me, I went to the doctor on Saturday because I'm sick, I have bronchitis, they gave me an inhaler and Sudafed, the inhaler seems to help my coughing and lungs, but the Sudafed doesn't do a whole lot...

My aunt and uncle arrived on Saturday evening at my moms...the messaged my hubby on Saturday and finally said they would agree to his visiting guidelines...and they apologized for everything and asked to start over, I was forced by my mom to tell them we are willing to start over, though we are still going to make them go by the guidelines my hubby has made out for at least the first few visits, until they prove they aren't going to act out and behave ridiculously anymore.

PJ_Soul · November 2015

PJSiren said:
I am doing OK, the melatonin is working to help me sleep, it's been a lot better at night for me, I went to the doctor on Saturday because I'm sick, I have bronchitis, they gave me an inhaler and Sudafed, the inhaler seems to help my coughing and lungs, but the Sudafed doesn't do a whole lot...

My aunt and uncle arrived on Saturday evening at my moms...the messaged my hubby on Saturday and finally said they would agree to his visiting guidelines...and they apologized for everything and asked to start over, I was forced by my mom to tell them we are willing to start over, though we are still going to make them go by the guidelines my hubby has made out for at least the first few visits, until they prove they aren't going to act out and behave ridiculously anymore.

That's great!
Be cautious about backing away from the guidelines. With what's happened so far, I personally wouldn't trust them with unsupervised visits for a very long time... probably not at all, unless it's court ordered, TBH.

RKCNDY · November 2015

lots of hugs to you...remember to take a break and BREATHE too!

SD48277 · November 2015

Glad to hear you are getting some sleep. I echo PJ_Soul's concern about backing away from the guidelines. How long are your aunt and uncle visiting?
As always, you have a community here that supports you and is cheering you on.

PJSiren · November 2015

Oh no the visits will always be supervised, it's been ordered by the state of KY that they be, but some of the other guildelines may go away after a little while, like the extra security and stuff...
I don't know about how long they'll be here because they were saying they were moving here, then on Friday they told my grandma that they were going to only stay a short time and then move to Texas...so I have no clue about that. We shall see...I am hoping they do go to Texas...because really none of us want them here...

PJSiren · November 2015

I've strained the muscles in my back from lifting Keyton, had to miss work yesterday and go to the doctor, spent two hours there and then almost another hour waiting on my meds at the pharmacy. They gave me a muscle relaxer and pain pill and prednisone and he said to refrain from lifting him until it's healed and I've recovered, luckily my best friend is here and can help on that front, and I was ordered to start core building exercises to strengthen my back and to wear a back brace belt when lifting him.

I'm at work today and feeling a little loopy on all my meds...kinda sleepy and stuff. Sitting here with my heating pad on my back to also help the inflammation...

hedonist · November 2015

So much to take on, literally and figuratively. Take care of yourself.

Good thoughts and vibes sent, whether requested or not

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