Should AMT be shut down?

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  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    Politics, religion? Duh, of course people are gonna disagree. That's one of the things that makes AMT interesting. But I don't like it when people post just to make trouble or to pick fights with people.

    And yet... I have never flagged anyone. It sort of feels too Joseph McCarthy/friendly witness-ish. But that's just me.

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited October 2015
    I have flagged 3 posts in my posting history.
    Two of which I openly stated I was going to flag.
    Flagging is like nipping in the bud.
    Circa 1991, 2004 old forum rules are by the wayside.
    Sometimes posters create a niche that can fester hate, political gain, racism if left unchecked.
    So grab a pair and deal with the consequences of what you post.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Smellyman said:

    No

    While we are not our avs (!!!), yours when combined with your response is perfect.

    Like a quick, succinct "woof" =)
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    This is where I ask again if I'm allowed to laugh
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524

    I have flagged 3 posts in my posting history.
    Two of which I openly stated I was going to flag.
    Flagging is like nipping in the bud.
    Circa 1991, 2004 old forum rules are by the wayside.
    Sometimes posters create a niche that can fester hate, political gain, racism if left unchecked.
    So grab a pair and deal with the consequences of what you post.

    Wouldn't it be more constructive to reach out to the person who offended so greatly to the point of having to go to the mods? Is anyone here so unreasonable to not make that attempt?

    It's like at work. I'd never run to HR unless I'd exhausted all other means to resolve the issue (and even then - some shit's worth pursuing, some's not...depends on your end-goal, I guess).
  • SD48277
    SD48277 Posts: 12,243
    badbrains said:

    This is where I ask again if I'm allowed to laugh

    Yes.
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  • So grab a pair and deal with the consequences of what you post.

    Wouldn't it be great if everyone had to deal with the consequences of what they posted. It seems it's when "avatars" post racist, hateful, badgering, inflammatory comments and someone responds openly and honestly they get punished rather than the instigator. We have seen this happen more than once and not only is it disappointing it is infuriating and demeaning to our intelligence.
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    I wonder what would've happened if someone flagged that post someone posted about "fuck the pope and fuck the Vatican". That was pretty offensive. I'm a Muslim and that shit offended me. But I didn't run and flag anything.

    Good point hedonist. Those are the route you'd think people would usually go by. But I guess not. I know I'd never flag anything, it's just not in me. I believe in total freedom of speech. But it's funny how some people use that freedom of speech to say ^^^above offensive statement, but yet it's not cool for others to use that same right? How's that even possible?
  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434

    I have flagged 3 posts in my posting history.
    Two of which I openly stated I was going to flag.
    Flagging is like nipping in the bud.
    Circa 1991, 2004 old forum rules are by the wayside.
    Sometimes posters create a niche that can fester hate, political gain, racism if left unchecked.
    So grab a pair and deal with the consequences of what you post.

    But why do you feel the need to carry the nippers? I didn't know that we needed to be policed by forum members. I feel very wild west and citizen arrest about that. I thought the job of moderation was for the mods. :i_dunno: I had no idea that anyone else needed to carry that badge.
    badbrains said:

    This is where I ask again if I'm allowed to laugh

    Yes, please.
    hedonist said:


    Wouldn't it be more constructive to reach out to the person who offended so greatly to the point of having to go to the mods? Is anyone here so unreasonable to not make that attempt?

    It's like at work. I'd never run to HR unless I'd exhausted all other means to resolve the issue (and even then - some shit's worth pursuing, some's not...depends on your end-goal, I guess).

    Agree completely.
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  • badbrains said:

    Am I allowed to laugh or is that offensive? Or is that considered an insult, to laugh at someone's post?

    Well, you should be able too. And who here hasn't asked someone to pull your finger?
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255

    badbrains said:

    Am I allowed to laugh or is that offensive? Or is that considered an insult, to laugh at someone's post?

    Well, you should be able too. And who here hasn't asked someone to pull your finger?
    H2M, quick, pull my finger............
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,835
    Flagging is a ridiculous example of running to the teacher and whining. Very modern approach to resolving a disagreement.

    I am offended that someone would tell the forum participants to "grab a pair and deal with the consequences of what you post.".
    Should I flag you? Who are you that you think you can reach me a lesson?

    The consequence is running to tell the teacher if the post is something you do not like?
    I do not know you as I do many of the people on this board. I respect that you can have an opinion and I respect that it can be different than mine.
    I do not respect you if you flag posts thinking you are the person who determines what can be posted here. I absolutely do not respect you if you feel like tattling and having the mods do your arguing for you is showing people how to get a pair and learn what consequences are. Seems like the sort of thing a bully would try and do.
    Just saying.
    #flagthis
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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    The only time I have even considered flagging a post is when I was concerned for the well-being of the poster themselves

    Freedom of speech is sacrosanct
  • northerndragon
    northerndragon Posts: 9,851
    edited October 2015
    How to Troll 101 Ladies and Gentlemen
    Yes I think AMT should continue to exist.
    Not quite sure how one could get an entire category closed.
    I think the word troll has been overplayed to a point where it is common place to call someone a troll as it is to say hello.
    It means nothing to the accused but it means a lot to the accuser.
    Talking avatars are merely that.- an avatar on a computer
    Could you imagine a forum where everytime someone posts they get called a troll? That would not be a very inviting place for noobs or existing members.
    When avatars comment in threads of controversial or even menial subjects one avatar can take it the wrong way and cause a cycle of back and forth bickering leading to personal insults caused by nothing more than a persons input to a thread.
    We openly have posters stating why they don't post in certain places of the forum for this very reason. How did it get this way?
    Avoiding certain categories on a forum in order to not be included should not have to cross the mind of a member.
    ^^^^
    Yes.
    You just have to speak your mind and deal with what comes.
    That is not baiting or trolling.

    Taking offense to an opinion and hurling insults should be punished.

    Trolling and having an opinion are two different things.

    Well then that is what we have mods for.
    To prevent personal insults before they occur or at least stop them.


    And that is what we have a flag post option for.
    If people always take everything personal it leads to insults as a defense.
    If you get offended don't respond.

    Flagging is like nipping in the bud.
    Circa 1991, 2004 old forum rules are by the wayside.
    Sometimes posters create a niche that can fester hate, political gain, racism if left unchecked.
    So grab a pair and deal with the consequences of what you post.
    #FMC
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    I just heard a mic drop
  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996

    The only time I have even considered flagging a post is when I was concerned for the well-being of the poster themselves

    Freedom of speech is sacrosanct

    That's why we have AMT. Absolutely.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    F Me just f'd me in that good part of the brain.

    The only time I have even considered flagging a post is when I was concerned for the well-being of the poster themselves

    Freedom of speech is sacrosanct

    And yes, while I get we agree to certain terms via signing up, paying our dues, etc., I can't overlook this post (plus I always love the use of "sacrosanct").

  • How to Troll 101 Ladies and Gentlemen

    Yes I think AMT should continue to exist.
    Not quite sure how one could get an entire category closed.
    I think the word troll has been overplayed to a point where it is common place to call someone a troll as it is to say hello.
    It means nothing to the accused but it means a lot to the accuser.
    Talking avatars are merely that.- an avatar on a computer
    Could you imagine a forum where everytime someone posts they get called a troll? That would not be a very inviting place for noobs or existing members.
    When avatars comment in threads of controversial or even menial subjects one avatar can take it the wrong way and cause a cycle of back and forth bickering leading to personal insults caused by nothing more than a persons input to a thread.
    We openly have posters stating why they don't post in certain places of the forum for this very reason. How did it get this way?
    Avoiding certain categories on a forum in order to not be included should not have to cross the mind of a member.
    ^^^^
    Yes.
    You just have to speak your mind and deal with what comes.
    That is not baiting or trolling.

    Taking offense to an opinion and hurling insults should be punished.

    Trolling and having an opinion are two different things.

    Well then that is what we have mods for.
    To prevent personal insults before they occur or at least stop them.


    And that is what we have a flag post option for.
    If people always take everything personal it leads to insults as a defense.
    If you get offended don't respond.

    Flagging is like nipping in the bud.
    Circa 1991, 2004 old forum rules are by the wayside.
    Sometimes posters create a niche that can fester hate, political gain, racism if left unchecked.
    So grab a pair and deal with the consequences of what you post.
    #FMC

    Hmmm…

    Connect the dots?!?

    "am I my brothers keeper?!?"

    I prefer the latter...
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    badbrains said:

    This is where I ask again if I'm allowed to laugh

    You can laugh at your own fart--just not anybody else's please

  • Quick, quick, pull my finger!
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