Trophies or awards just for participation and Is it damaging the youth of today?

Thirty Bills Unpaid · August 2015

Smellyman said:
you know what is bad for kids, tablets, phones, tv, netflix, hulu, constant movies playing in cars, at home, standing.....playstations, xboxs, dressing like little GQ models (remember when one tshirt and one pair of shorts lasted you a summer) So many bullshit things. Not to mention the truly fucked up issues like school shootings, wars, pedo's, etc.

You know what is not bad for kids? getting a freaking particiaption ribbon/certificate/trophy for actually doing things......

get a grip people. You are not tough as nails now because as a youth you weren't coddled with a freaking ribbon.

Having a parent say, "I'm so proud of you" trumps a trophy anytime.

HesCalledDyer · August 2015

Leezestarr313 said:
There is a generation growing that will expect rewards for everything.

Bingo!

Smellyman · August 2015

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:
you know what is bad for kids, tablets, phones, tv, netflix, hulu, constant movies playing in cars, at home, standing.....playstations, xboxs, dressing like little GQ models (remember when one tshirt and one pair of shorts lasted you a summer) So many bullshit things. Not to mention the truly fucked up issues like school shootings, wars, pedo's, etc.

You know what is not bad for kids? getting a freaking particiaption ribbon/certificate/trophy for actually doing things......

get a grip people. You are not tough as nails now because as a youth you weren't coddled with a freaking ribbon.
Having a parent say, "I'm so proud of you" trumps a trophy anytime.

so that doesn't happen if they get a trophy? It's not an either/or thing.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · August 2015

HesCalledDyer said:

Leezestarr313 said:
There is a generation growing that will expect rewards for everything.
Bingo!

Those trophies are for the parents. An ice cream cone would generate just as big a smile on that kid 4 posts above as that trophy did.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · August 2015

Smellyman said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:
you know what is bad for kids, tablets, phones, tv, netflix, hulu, constant movies playing in cars, at home, standing.....playstations, xboxs, dressing like little GQ models (remember when one tshirt and one pair of shorts lasted you a summer) So many bullshit things. Not to mention the truly fucked up issues like school shootings, wars, pedo's, etc.

You know what is not bad for kids? getting a freaking particiaption ribbon/certificate/trophy for actually doing things......

get a grip people. You are not tough as nails now because as a youth you weren't coddled with a freaking ribbon.
Having a parent say, "I'm so proud of you" trumps a trophy anytime.
so that doesn't happen if they get a trophy? It's not an either/or thing.

You're missing the point. It's not about trophies.

The rewards for 'participation' are inherent in a well structured sporting experience. Trophies make praise, support and encouragement cheap and meaningless in my mind.

Smellyman · August 2015

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:
you know what is bad for kids, tablets, phones, tv, netflix, hulu, constant movies playing in cars, at home, standing.....playstations, xboxs, dressing like little GQ models (remember when one tshirt and one pair of shorts lasted you a summer) So many bullshit things. Not to mention the truly fucked up issues like school shootings, wars, pedo's, etc.

You know what is not bad for kids? getting a freaking particiaption ribbon/certificate/trophy for actually doing things......

get a grip people. You are not tough as nails now because as a youth you weren't coddled with a freaking ribbon.
Having a parent say, "I'm so proud of you" trumps a trophy anytime.
so that doesn't happen if they get a trophy? It's not an either/or thing.
You're missing the point. It's not about trophies.

The rewards for 'participation' are inherent in a well structured sporting experience. Trophies make praise, support and encouragement cheap and meaningless in my mind.

Thanks for the praise Dad....I guess......but I already got a ribbon.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · August 2015

Smellyman said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:
you know what is bad for kids, tablets, phones, tv, netflix, hulu, constant movies playing in cars, at home, standing.....playstations, xboxs, dressing like little GQ models (remember when one tshirt and one pair of shorts lasted you a summer) So many bullshit things. Not to mention the truly fucked up issues like school shootings, wars, pedo's, etc.

You know what is not bad for kids? getting a freaking particiaption ribbon/certificate/trophy for actually doing things......

get a grip people. You are not tough as nails now because as a youth you weren't coddled with a freaking ribbon.
Having a parent say, "I'm so proud of you" trumps a trophy anytime.
so that doesn't happen if they get a trophy? It's not an either/or thing.
You're missing the point. It's not about trophies.

The rewards for 'participation' are inherent in a well structured sporting experience. Trophies make praise, support and encouragement cheap and meaningless in my mind.
Thanks for the praise Dad....I guess......but I already got a ribbon.

Thanks for the praise Dad... but where's my trophy?

Smellyman · August 2015

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:
you know what is bad for kids, tablets, phones, tv, netflix, hulu, constant movies playing in cars, at home, standing.....playstations, xboxs, dressing like little GQ models (remember when one tshirt and one pair of shorts lasted you a summer) So many bullshit things. Not to mention the truly fucked up issues like school shootings, wars, pedo's, etc.

You know what is not bad for kids? getting a freaking particiaption ribbon/certificate/trophy for actually doing things......

get a grip people. You are not tough as nails now because as a youth you weren't coddled with a freaking ribbon.
Having a parent say, "I'm so proud of you" trumps a trophy anytime.
so that doesn't happen if they get a trophy? It's not an either/or thing.
You're missing the point. It's not about trophies.

The rewards for 'participation' are inherent in a well structured sporting experience. Trophies make praise, support and encouragement cheap and meaningless in my mind.
Thanks for the praise Dad....I guess......but I already got a ribbon.
Thanks for the praise Dad... but where's my trophy?

Thanks for the praise dad......crap, he's out getting drunk again and banging hookers.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · August 2015

Smellyman said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:
you know what is bad for kids, tablets, phones, tv, netflix, hulu, constant movies playing in cars, at home, standing.....playstations, xboxs, dressing like little GQ models (remember when one tshirt and one pair of shorts lasted you a summer) So many bullshit things. Not to mention the truly fucked up issues like school shootings, wars, pedo's, etc.

You know what is not bad for kids? getting a freaking particiaption ribbon/certificate/trophy for actually doing things......

get a grip people. You are not tough as nails now because as a youth you weren't coddled with a freaking ribbon.
Having a parent say, "I'm so proud of you" trumps a trophy anytime.
so that doesn't happen if they get a trophy? It's not an either/or thing.
You're missing the point. It's not about trophies.

The rewards for 'participation' are inherent in a well structured sporting experience. Trophies make praise, support and encouragement cheap and meaningless in my mind.
Thanks for the praise Dad....I guess......but I already got a ribbon.
Thanks for the praise Dad... but where's my trophy?
Thanks for the praise dad......crap, he's out getting drunk again and banging hookers.

Huh?

I'm not sure how this scenario supports what you are asserting... or debunks what I am saying?

oftenreading · August 2015

Wow, I leave for work in the morning, no thread; come back after work, 4 pages.

I tend to agree with those who think it's a lesser issue than many other issues out there. The youngest kids, who would be more likely to get a participation ribbon or trophy, don't know or care about much about it anyway. How many on here have watched early school aged kids play a team sport? For those who haven't, it's painfully funny. They're never looking in the right direction, one kid is waving at his mom, and another has gotten tired and is lying down on the field. Once they get old enough to care about putting effort into winning, they all know who is winning and who is losing, regardless of whether they get a trophy or not. The presence of participation trophies won't make the kids who are keen any less keen, but it also won't make the ones who don't care about it any more interested. Some kids are good at sports and love it, but some kids just aren't; those are the ones who we should encourage into the rec. leagues in the hope that they will stay active and healthy. Sports certainly isn't the only arena that teaches perseverance, and I think it's foolish to think that just because your kid isn't a driven athlete they will grow up to be a "loser" who doesn't know the meaning of working hard toward a goal.

As for school and the idea that "some schools won't even fail kids who fail"; it's called social promotion, and believe it or not it can actually lead to better academic performance. Some of us may be old enough to remember the one or two guys in elementary school who had been held back and who consequently were a year or two older than everybody else. Even though they were bigger, they usually got teased because they stuck out; everyone knew they had failed. If you instead promote these kids through to the next grade and give more educational support, they're more likely to stay in school and get further in their education, but if you don't, they generally drop out early on. It's not perfect, and the rubber really hits the road in the upper high school grades; there, if you fail a class, you fail it.

Rather than the trophy issue, I personally think that the over-protectiveness stemming from the wildly overblown fear of child abduction/sexual assault is the more serious problem. So many previously normative experiences and healthy risks are now prohibited for most kids, all in the name of "safety". In turn, we have fearful kids with fewer life skills and who are at far higher risk of harm because we drive them everywhere.

Smellyman · August 2015

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:
you know what is bad for kids, tablets, phones, tv, netflix, hulu, constant movies playing in cars, at home, standing.....playstations, xboxs, dressing like little GQ models (remember when one tshirt and one pair of shorts lasted you a summer) So many bullshit things. Not to mention the truly fucked up issues like school shootings, wars, pedo's, etc.

You know what is not bad for kids? getting a freaking particiaption ribbon/certificate/trophy for actually doing things......

get a grip people. You are not tough as nails now because as a youth you weren't coddled with a freaking ribbon.
Having a parent say, "I'm so proud of you" trumps a trophy anytime.
so that doesn't happen if they get a trophy? It's not an either/or thing.
You're missing the point. It's not about trophies.

The rewards for 'participation' are inherent in a well structured sporting experience. Trophies make praise, support and encouragement cheap and meaningless in my mind.
Thanks for the praise Dad....I guess......but I already got a ribbon.
Thanks for the praise Dad... but where's my trophy?
Thanks for the praise dad......crap, he's out getting drunk again and banging hookers.
Huh?

I'm not sure how this scenario supports what you are asserting... or debunks what I am saying?

some kids have dads out getting drunk and banging hookers and get no praise. I thought it was a simple concept.

Smellyman · August 2015

oftenreading said:
Wow, I leave for work in the morning, no thread; come back after work, 4 pages.

I tend to agree with those who think it's a lesser issue than many other issues out there. The youngest kids, who would be more likely to get a participation ribbon or trophy, don't know or care about much about it anyway. How many on here have watched early school aged kids play a team sport? For those who haven't, it's painfully funny. They're never looking in the right direction, one kid is waving at his mom, and another has gotten tired and is lying down on the field. Once they get old enough to care about putting effort into winning, they all know who is winning and who is losing, regardless of whether they get a trophy or not. The presence of participation trophies won't make the kids who are keen any less keen, but it also won't make the ones who don't care about it any more interested. Some kids are good at sports and love it, but some kids just aren't; those are the ones who we should encourage into the rec. leagues in the hope that they will stay active and healthy. Sports certainly isn't the only arena that teaches perseverance, and I think it's foolish to think that just because your kid isn't a driven athlete they will grow up to be a "loser" who doesn't know the meaning of working hard toward a goal.

As for school and the idea that "some schools won't even fail kids who fail"; it's called social promotion, and believe it or not it can actually lead to better academic performance. Some of us may be old enough to remember the one or two guys in elementary school who had been held back and who consequently were a year or two older than everybody else. Even though they were bigger, they usually got teased because they stuck out; everyone knew they had failed. If you instead promote these kids through to the next grade and give more educational support, they're more likely to stay in school and get further in their education, but if you don't, they generally drop out early on. It's not perfect, and the rubber really hits the road in the upper high school grades; there, if you fail a class, you fail it.

Rather than the trophy issue, I personally think that the over-protectiveness stemming from the wildly overblown fear of child abduction/sexual assault is the more serious problem. So many previously normative experiences and healthy risks are now prohibited for most kids, all in the name of "safety". In turn, we have fearful kids with fewer life skills and who are at far higher risk of harm because we drive them everywhere.

Nice

summed up better than me and much less dickish than me.

Gern Blansten · August 2015

Smellyman said:
you know what is bad for kids, tablets, phones, tv, netflix, hulu, constant movies playing in cars, at home, standing.....playstations, xboxs, dressing like little GQ models (remember when one tshirt and one pair of shorts lasted you a summer) So many bullshit things. Not to mention the truly fucked up issues like school shootings, wars, pedo's, etc.

You know what is not bad for kids? getting a freaking particiaption ribbon/certificate/trophy for actually doing things......

get a grip people. You are not tough as nails now because as a youth you weren't coddled with a freaking ribbon.

You just won this argument. Time to close this thread.

callen · August 2015

gri

MayDay10 said:
School. Yes I agree. It should be taken seriously and every student should be pushed to do their best. 2nd grade graduation ceremonies are lame.

Word.

Kids are coddled too much.

Insecure bored parents use their kids for self worth.

Participation ribbons are fine.

Good to have winners receive the big trophy and other team not. Good to loose. In sports your uniform is the participation ribbon.

There are others that don't use face book? Yeay!!!!

Gern Blansten · August 2015

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Smellyman said:
you know what is bad for kids, tablets, phones, tv, netflix, hulu, constant movies playing in cars, at home, standing.....playstations, xboxs, dressing like little GQ models (remember when one tshirt and one pair of shorts lasted you a summer) So many bullshit things. Not to mention the truly fucked up issues like school shootings, wars, pedo's, etc.

You know what is not bad for kids? getting a freaking particiaption ribbon/certificate/trophy for actually doing things......

get a grip people. You are not tough as nails now because as a youth you weren't coddled with a freaking ribbon.
Having a parent say, "I'm so proud of you" trumps a trophy anytime.
so that doesn't happen if they get a trophy? It's not an either/or thing.
You're missing the point. It's not about trophies.

The rewards for 'participation' are inherent in a well structured sporting experience. Trophies make praise, support and encouragement cheap and meaningless in my mind.

I have four kids...all have played rec/club/travel sports. I can tell you without reservation that the trophies received for participation were meaningless. After a few years the trophies received for championships become meaningless as well.

Godfather. · August 2015

I just took a look at this thread but here's my take on it, my son raced BMX for 10+ years so I've seen a lot of participation awards handed out to kids and the thrill of getting one always brings a smile to thier faces, it gives them a feeling that "hay I can do this" and it helps to build thier self esteam so you parents out there that have young kids you should encourage them to believe they earned that ribbin or trophy because these little moments are building blocks to thier future and how they feel about themselfs and it helps them to understand that if they try and do thier best there is nothing they can't do, it's all about confedance in them selfs.

Godfather.

Cliffy6745 · August 2015

Glad to see we are taking parenting advice from someone who hit the mother of his child.

My take. Who cares if 7 year olds get 3 inch trophies of participating. The winners always got bigger ones, so it wasn't like there wasn't a sense of competition or rewards for winning. It also stops at some point. I got trophies for participation in my YMCA basketball league when i was like 8. By the time I was playing competitively, no one is getting participation trophies.

This conversation always seems like an old "get off my lawn" conversation.

Edit: I also can't imagine parents caring all that much about winning for kids playing sports from 7-10.

Smellyman · August 2015

Godfather. said:
I just took a look at this thread but here's my take on it, my son raced BMX for 10+ years so I've seen a lot of participation awards handed out to kids and the thrill of getting one always brings a smile to thier faces, it gives them a feeling that "hay I can do this" and it helps to build thier self esteam so you parents out there that have young kids you should encourage them to believe they earned that ribbin or trophy because these little moments are building blocks to thier future and how they feel about themselfs and it helps them to understand that if they try and do thier best there is nothing they can't do, it's all about confedance in them selfs.

Godfather.

I will remember the 18th of August. The day The Godfather and I agree.

oftenreading · August 2015

Smellyman said:

Godfather. said:
I just took a look at this thread but here's my take on it, my son raced BMX for 10+ years so I've seen a lot of participation awards handed out to kids and the thrill of getting one always brings a smile to thier faces, it gives them a feeling that "hay I can do this" and it helps to build thier self esteam so you parents out there that have young kids you should encourage them to believe they earned that ribbin or trophy because these little moments are building blocks to thier future and how they feel about themselfs and it helps them to understand that if they try and do thier best there is nothing they can't do, it's all about confedance in them selfs.

Godfather.
I will remember the 18th of August. The day The Godfather and I agree.

Yes, treasure that rare and precious moment.

Cliffy6745 · August 2015

I guess getting trophies this way is better?

http://deadspin.com/little-league-world-series-scandal-softball-team-throw-1724733555

Trophies or awards just for participation and Is it damaging the youth of today?

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